My school is being shot up and I am locked inside. Im fucking scared right now.

[kpete]

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Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. NRA and GOP insist that children live like this.

[mythology]

23. You're giving them too much credit. It's not just kids

They are happy to have everybody live like this.

[MontanaMama]

53. THIS.

No other way to frame it.

[pandr32]

72. Agreed

[uponit7771]

62. +1

[gopiscrap]

2. this is a disgrace

we as a nation must over come the greed and power lust of the NRA!!!!

[Voltaire2]

3. Fucked Nation.

[DemocracyMouse]

69. Ditto. The cops are as sick as the perps

[BigmanPigman]

4. And what about the teachers who have to protect the kids?!

I had to have routine emergency shooter drills with my first graders then afterwards go back to reading stories aloud with them. Believe me, I never signed up for that when I became a teacher!

[Ilsa]

8. Has your school district built a secured foyer for

your school? At every school in my school district, modifications were made after 2012 (Sandy Hook) shooting to make certain the schools are locked up from the inside. The only way in is through the front office where the secretary buzzes you in after viewing you through glass. I doubt it is bullet-proof, but the school resource officer is right there with her.

I have slept much better knowing that no one can get in to any of the schools.

[BigmanPigman]

11. After Sandy Hook I returned to my school

and we had a staff meeting about safety and my idiot principal didn't even know that all of the classroom doors could only be locked FROM THE OUTSIDE! I raised my hand and filled her in on this little fact. So does that answer your question?

Schools are full of holes and anyone can climb over a fence. Even my former first graders could scale a chain link fence like monkeys when they had to retrieve a ball from recess games.

[Ilsa]

16. That's awful security.

Our elementary schools have high fences around the playgrounds so kids cannot climb out. We have no open windows for anyone to climb through.

Your school district seriously needs to make changes. It might take the parents harping on the school board, and perhaps passing a special initiative to tax and raise money to make necessary improvements to at least make it damn hard for a shooter to gain entry.

Good luck!

[Ztolkins]

58. Wait, I thought we were talking about schools...

Not prisons.

So. Fucking. Sad.

[DemocracyMouse]

70. It's a police state, like Russia. Period. Dems 2018.

[turnitup]

68. I believe the doors were locked

at Sandy Hook and he smashed the door with his gun(s)

Not that it changes any of these horrific shootings, just pointing out with a locked door Adam still got in

[Hassin Bin Sober]

15. Im not certain but I think Sandy Hook had the same system. The shooter shot through the glass

[BigmanPigman]

20. He did. It didn't deter him at all.

If you have a powerful enough weapon and are intent on using it you will find a way.

[FirstLight]

64. What about "non-teachers"...?

I work at an after-school program, non-profit=poor...we are housed in an older school building, the heater doesn't even work right...much less"security features"

We have "lockdown" drills sometimes just as admin,but have not done anything with the actual kids in this respect.

While I have great confidence in our local authorities, when shit like this happens, it's scruples on the ground that helps you survive. I honestly don't know how I'd respond...or how I'd get my kids to be quiet and hidden...

[Ilsa]

65. Talk to your supervisor.

Drills and preparedness appeared to help this high school, according to interviews.

Aside from that, I don't know how to protect you and your charges.

[Guilded Lilly]

67. Both my children and daughter in law are teachers.

The worry never stops.
The fear keeps eating away.

And the men in power don’t do one damn shit about it. They cash the checks fast enough. And those who aren’t bought remain mostly quiet.
They are all accomplices to terrorism.

[NightWatcher]

5. He's ok. They've been "liberated" from the building.

Link to tweet

[kpete]

6. Thanks for posting

glad he is ok

kp

[SoCalMusicLover]

7. God Bless America

Where you get to have fun like this.

[dchill]

31. I'm about ready to drag a flag!

[pwb]

36. I took mine down. Nothing great about us anymore.

Flew it all my life. Just can't feel proud anymore and I'm a Nam combat vet.

[dchill]

45. *sigh* I hear you.

[Guilded Lilly]

66. My flag is folded and in the closet, too. Not proud enough anymore.

[sdfernando]

9. I'm glad the kid is OK.

But I right now I have to agree with Rev. Wright God DAMN America.

[Collimator]

29. We Don't Need a God to Damn America . . .

We're doing it to ourselves.

I may not believe in the Bible as divinely inspired, but there is some wisdom to be found in its pages.

The verse that states, "The love of money is the root of all evil" is very appropriate here.

The gun nuts are dangerous enough in themselves, but it is the NRA and the gun manufacturers and the money they suck in and funnel back to the politicians to keep us running scared that are the root of the problem.

There have always been troubled people and hateful people. Their ability to inflict harm has grown exponentially due to advances in weapons technology and the increasing availability of said weapons.

Even the most rabid homicidal maniac couldn't kill as many people with an axe as a disgruntled pissant can with a semi-automatic.

The maniac's arm would tire out before his mania could run its course.

The loser in a lousy mood with a powerful gun could keep going as long as his supply of bullets and pathetic need for control hold out.

Guns that keep firing away don't take courage or skill or stamina to use. If you've got the money, you can take away lives in the dozens.

That's all it comes down to. Gun nuts may love guns, but the NRA loves money.

And as long as they can turn a profit, the lives of our citizens-- or even our children-- mean nothing.

In that, we are well and truly damned.

[calimary]

61. Welcome to DU, Collimator.

Every word.

I was thinking earlier today that - for all the assholes who mewl about how "guns don't kill people" or the "what-about'ers" who go directly to "but but but ... cars!" or "but but but ... knives!" - it's very likely easier to survive an assault by car or by knife. Or axe. Or baseball bat. Or fist. Or fill-in-the-blank-here. I suspect you're statistically more likely to survive an attack by any of the above mentioned implements. You are statistically no match for a gun. Particularly a really awful extreme instrument like the AK47.

Fortunately, there is some shaming now going on, and there should be a LOT more. I suggest anybody with a Twitter account spread this info from Bess Kalb, a TV comedy writer for Jimmy Kimmel's show. Name their names. Shine a bright light. Expose these fiends who are bought and paid for by the NRA.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/kimmel-writer-quotes-every-gop-lawmakers-post-florida-thoughts-prayers-tweet-much-money-took-nra/

And for the unfortunate constituents of these opportunistic infections on Capitol Hill, I hope you don't keep them employed this November if they come asking for your vote. HINT on how to avoid making a mistake: Just find the D on the ballot and make your mark there. These lice are ALL republi-CONS. So vote Dem.

[flying_wahini]

71. Welcome to DU

I agree with you.

[Hortensis]

12. Thanks for posting this good news.

Instead of politicizing kids in danger.

[missingthebigdog]

54. No he's not.

He will never be "okay." With a lot of therapy and time, he might be able to function normally, but he will never truly get over this.

How could anybody?

[GulfCoast66]

63. Kids are more resilient than we think.

Most will be fine. Humans have a history of extreme violence from our beginning.

Hell, even the ice man found in the alps from thousands of years ago due to warning died from combat injuries.

And research has shown that our grandparents were correct. Grieve and then move on. Talking about it endlessly makes it worse.

[CreekDog]

73. Most kids who get shot and killed by guns won't be fine

though you have recovered nicely from watching coverage of the attacks, i mean your gun posting just got right in gear.

[GulfCoast66]

74. What are you talking about.

I was disagreeing to a post saying that the kid in question was psychologically damaged and need lots of therepy to recover. The poster may be correct. But the odds do not back it up. Most people who experience trama come out of it fine.

We are hard wired for it since during most of our evolutionary history life was way more brutal and short than now.

Shit, I was being optimistic.

My post had nothing to do with guns and was narrowly tailored to the post I was replying for.

I guess you were disappointed not to see a continuation of the ‘we are fucked up, the worse country and may as well just give up’ kind of post that prevail on this thread.

You have a nice evening.

[CreekDog]

75. You're worried about this causing a curtailing of gun rights, but optimistic that it won't

of course you're optimistic!

you have reason to hope, because chances are this shooting and its killings probably won't change a thing.

of course you're optimistic! unlike almost all of us, who are actually worried that the killings will get worse, people who are primarily worried about gun rights are the opposite, they're OPTIMISTIC!

in fact the only restrictions you actually advocate for, you're quick to say would be political suicide to pursue.

you're really smooth.

but sometimes you slip.

[GulfCoast66]

76. Like I am involved in some 4 D chess game...

And you brilliantly caught me! LOL

I am open in my views. I support the Democratic Party Platform that gun ownership is s constitutional right. Disagree with me you disagree with the party.

I also agree with the platform calling for tight restrictions.

You apparently confuse what I personally would like with what I think feasible.

I would like to ban all magazines capable of holding more than 8-10 rounds. If not 5 That one law alone would go miles to solving the gun problem.

However, I do believe that if we as a party make that a major part of our platform we will lose.

Too many people become single issues voters based on this one issue. We should not sacrifice our entire liberal agenda on a cross of gun control.

If you can not separate what you personally want with what is achievable, that is not my problem.

I also want s France or German style medical system. But for now I am happy to fight to save the ACA.

You really think heading into an election we look to do very well in our chances will be improved by making gun control a big part of our message. If so, then we have an honest disagreement of tactics, not necessarily a difference in goals.

[CreekDog]

77. Oh come on, I've been in my 40s longer than you even claim to have been a Democrat

and just in the past few days you've said the Medicare for all is a "scheme".

and just in the past few days you've told us the Russia investigation doesn't help us or do anything.

and you raise you concern about any gun control, and even though you claim to support limiting the size of magazines, you say it's a political loser to actually pass it.

and you defended Scott Pruitt's use of first class to fly on government travel.

so PLEASE, don't lecture us by claiming you are one of us unless you actually are one of us.

and you aren't doing to convincing a job of showing you're one of us.

[GulfCoast66]

78. Wow! Do you keep notes?

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If you are going to critique my DU posting record, please do not edit in a way that cast aspersions on me.

You are correct that I do not support Medicare for all in our attempt to provide all Americans with affordable healthcare, which I think all democrats should support. I have consistently stated I had rather work toward a French style system using the ACA as a foundation rather than do one big change like the British did. I think it will give better results and more importantly I think it is achievable. Another reason I do not support Medicare for all is it’s real potential to divide the Democratic Party heading into 2020 as some on the political left make it a litmus test of being a ‘real’ democrat. Kind of like you just did.

As for Russia/Mueller nothing will come of because no matter what is found the Republicans will support him. If we win the house and initiate impeachment the senate will not convict even if the house impeaches him. No one wants to hear that, but do you honestly disagree? The best we can do is take the house and stop the further bleeding till he is gone.

If we win the House we might be able to close the gun show loophole and have better background checks which most Americans support and would hope we can limit magazine size. But I am not convinced there is support among the majority of the American people to do so. That is where we need to work...ginning up support among the people.

And I do not really care if department secretaries fly first class, Democratic or republican. I we found out Holder or one of Obama’s secretaries was flying first class most here would defend them. However, since I posted that we have discovered 2 new things. He got a exception to fly on a foreign airline and that Airline was Air Emerites which is a limo in the sky. That is Bullshit and should be roundly condemned.

Finally, who the fuck are you to decide who is one of ‘us’? I have been here 2 years and have been pretty consistent in my posting. When I have stepped over the line I apologize. I do not start OPs with the intention of stirring up shit or getting posts hidden. When I change my mind I admit I was wrong. I am a star member with a 100% chance of serving on juries.

Just because I do agree with you 100% of the time or have been a member of the Democratic Party for less time than you does not make me any less valuable member of our party or DU.

And I will never again type a post this long on my iPhone again! Next time you will have to wait till I am at my computer.

You have a nice day.

[Initech]

10. Another day in the NRA's America.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

13. Shit. That restarts the clock on the period during which "It's too soon to talk about gun control."

At this rate, we'll never be able to talk about -- let alone do -- anything about the epidemic of gun violence in this country.

Oh, wait. That's the way the GOP/NRA wants it, don't they?

[Baconator]

14. My old high school...

That place is going to be a bitch and a half to clear and secure...

[aeromanKC]

17. Graphic VidClip from Classroom

Edit: This is a graphic vid clip

Student tweets my F'n school is being shot up right now:

https://twitter.com/jnarls/media

[spanone]

18. Congress could act anytime...but we all know the spineless bastards won't

[pwb]

19. The NRA bought and paid for by Putin.

Part of his plan!

[Upthevibe]

24. F any and everyone who has opposed common sense gun laws....

Until there's a change in consciousness and the "idiot politicians who are bought by the NRA", retrieve their souls from the Devil, this is only going to get worse and we all know it!

[KG]

21. guns. fuck yeah.

[kpete]

22. "The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is GUNS.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/963386127993442305/NTD8kZJC?format=jpg&name=600x314

Link to tweet

[KPN]

34. Sadly, the "government" the 2nd Amendment

nuts fear is the one we've got right now and they don't even see it!

Absolutely mind-numbingly incomprehensible!

[ffr]

25. Conservative TV and radio start their attacks on the victims in 3-2-1

You know it's coming.

[Scurrilous]

26. @#$% guns.

[ailsagirl]

27. It's absolutely egregious

And yet...

[HockeyMom]

28. Pod rooms in between classrooms

at one fairly new school I worked at in Florida. No doors in the hallways. No windows on the outside. The only way to get inside these was from inside the classrooms. The doors (no peep holes) could only be locked from inside the pods.

I don't know what the original purpose of these were. Hurricanes? Tornadoes? When we had a real lockdown with a gunman on campus, we took the students inside these pods. Staff carried radios with them. We could hear police reports and could hear when the all clear was given.

Of course, none of this would help if the shooter was a student who knew about these Pods. This was at a Middle School.

[cab67]

30. Im feeling curmudgeonly today.

I graduated high school in the mid-1980’s. Planning for a shooting in a suburban school district in those days (which are increasingly becoming the old days) just didn’t happen. That it’s now necessary breaks my heart.

[dchill]

32. Too soon?

[KPN]

33. When the fuck are we just gonna revolt

and return our country to sanity? I'm increasingly feeling like that is what it will take. With Russian meddling/hacking, GOP/Trump poll numbers rising on the back of minuscule scraps tossed to workers from the faux tax cuts, and the abject failure of mainstream media, I am losing confidence in our hope for 2018.

America is being gas-lighted like never before. What seemed apocryphal as a nation only a year ago, now seems increasingly acceptable if not outright positive to far too many.

[FM123]

35. I live here in Broward county. Sick to my stomach. Watching the local news.

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They said the Nikolas Cruz had help from his younger brother who was a current student, they took an Uber to school his morning. Nicholas had been sent to an alternative school, had brought knives to school before. Brothers were avid hunters, their foster mother just recently died.
I can't take this anymore. Enough enough.

[gratuitous]

38. What that says to me

Nicholas Kruz found it far easier to get his hands on firearms than to access the health care system. And the way our society is oriented, it's far more socially acceptable to shoot up a school than seek treatment for a mental health problem.

[FM123]

40. And they are also saying on the news that he tricked the authorities by pretending to be one of

students with hands up running away and that's how escaped the campus.

[Nonhlanhla]

37. This makes it so very real

Those poor children.

[hurl]

39. Never Fear!

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[Amimnoch]

41. Activate established timeline.

Day 1. Thoughts and prayers.
Day 2. It’s too soon to talk about gun control.
Days 3 to 5. How dare the left politicize this tragic event.
Day 6. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. You don’t take away people’s cars because of traffic accidents.. blah.. blah.. blah.
Day 7. This was an isolated disturbed individual. You can’t take away the right of the American public to defend themselves against people like this.. blah.. blah.. blah.
Day 8. This is old news, why does the left want to keep rehashing old news, these are not the guns you are looking for *jedi hand wave*.. move along.


It going to be the same old disgusting dance... yet again.

[FM123]

42. Fifteen fatalities.

[FM123]

47. 2 more just died at the hospital.

[Enoki33]

43. The majority in Congress will follow their pattern of

a minute of silence, say some useless prayer and go back to cashing their NRA checks. What is it going to take for them to enact sensible gun laws like every other civilized country? A major uprising?

[populistdriven]

44. NRA t-shirts & lunch boxes in school? Totally OK!

schools are forced to back down and allow this:



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-suspended-arrested-nra-t-shirt-returns-school-shirt-article-1.1325252


https://www.nraila.org/articles/20131030/california-high-school-that-banned-nra-t-shirt-backs-down
SCHOOL SUED https://www.range365.com/school-sued-suspending-student-who-wore-nra-shirt

[Ferrets are Cool]

46. The new normal????

Idiots on facebook on my timeline are saying it's all the parents fault for not controlling their kids enough...blah, blah, blah....NOT ONE FUCKING MENTION OF THE REAL PROBLEM OF GUNS.

[mainer]

49. "Thoughts and prayers" do abso-fucking-nothing.

The next time I hear that "sending thoughts and prayers" I am going to explode.

[rtracey]

50. well

well, my opinion is this.... it sounds shitty, but not enough politicians kids are getting killed in these school shootings....

[bluescribbler]

51. Bujt this is not the time

Not the time to talk about gun control.

[Motley13]

52. I can't stop crying

[Hoyt]

55. A few weeks from now, gunners and gun supporters will be OK with Congress and

most voters.

We'll hear that Democrats can't win supporting really tough gun laws. And, we'll be back to Stormy Daniels or whatever her name is until the next massacre.

[Hoyt]

59. Basically, it takes most guns away and says screw you to the white wingers who won't

turn them in. Look it up if you really don't know.

[populistdriven]

57. this won't end until it happens at a gunshow and then

they'll freak out but, schools & kids? MEH

[Maggiemayhem]

60. The last video by Melody

Look at the child in the right of the frame when SWAT comes in. She is shaking violently. I don’t think I will ever forget that image of a child in a war zone in her own school in America.