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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:16 PM Feb 2018

Stormy Daniels Warns Trump & Lawyer: You Breached Our Agreement, Now I'm Free to Talk!

Don't know how reputable of a source this is but, here it is. -- Don

Published February 14, 2018 at 8:35 am PST
ByMike Walters, Gary Trock

Stormy Daniels has suddenly changed her position and is ready to spill all the tea regarding her alleged affair with Donald Trump, and it all has to do with the president’s personal attorney allegedly breaching a contract he negotiated with the porn star.

Sources close to Daniels tell The Blast that her legal team notified President Trump’s legal team, including attorney Michael Cohen, that they are in violation of the agreement they made back in 2016.

Cohen said on Tuesday that he had paid a pornographic actress $130,000 out of his own pocket in 2016 who had claimed to have had an affair with Trump. Cohen stressed that “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly.”

We’re told Daniels — real name Stephanie Clifford — believes Cohen’s admission is a breach of their contract, and that she is now excused from “further performance of the non-disclosure agreement” between the two parties.

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https://theblast.com/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-agreement-michael-cohen-breach/
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Stormy Daniels Warns Trump & Lawyer: You Breached Our Agreement, Now I'm Free to Talk! (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
I don't believe the old "sources close to"....usually turns out to be fake crap beachbum bob Feb 2018 #1
Oh, I believe it... tRump* obviously insisted on his usual non-disclosure agreement... Raster Feb 2018 #39
Please be true! SING Stormy, SING!! PearliePoo2 Feb 2018 #2
we will need this: niyad Feb 2018 #3
And this: Ilsa Feb 2018 #15
Not exactly correct. lark Feb 2018 #4
it's not clear what part of the statement supposedly breaches the nda. unblock Feb 2018 #11
She has never publicly acknowledged there is an NDA, He did. Depending on the document that may TeamPooka Feb 2018 #16
Her lawyers have probably read the NDA. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #23
right, devil's in the details. unblock Feb 2018 #25
I hope she has a great lawyer TeamPooka Feb 2018 #30
Yes, that's one possibility Danascot Feb 2018 #33
How about homegirl Feb 2018 #40
as I said earlier financial damages are a definite option here. TeamPooka Feb 2018 #47
Well, let's see... Kensan Feb 2018 #32
Where the hell did this clown go to law school? Ligyron Feb 2018 #38
Violating terms is not always the same as voiding the entire agreement TeamPooka Feb 2018 #46
true, but this is likely a very small agreement. unblock Feb 2018 #49
Wouldnt take much for her to have better lawyers than Trump. She certainly is smarter. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #48
Stormy has nothing to lose. yardwork Feb 2018 #42
And away we go!!! Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #5
Just do it! world wide wally Feb 2018 #6
They're distracting us from something else. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #7
Answer: nothing brooklynite Feb 2018 #18
Ah, Unintended Consequences Strike Again... MineralMan Feb 2018 #8
I'm conflicted... BadGimp Feb 2018 #9
Considering it's trump, Ilsa Feb 2018 #17
Seriously. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #43
Poor kitty. Ilsa Feb 2018 #50
Needs to hold more. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #52
if true, that's one truly incompetent lawyer. he fits right in with the donnie disorganization. unblock Feb 2018 #10
actually, i'm sure it's nothing that another $130,000 can't fix. unblock Feb 2018 #12
She could make millions and I hope she does. Vinca Feb 2018 #13
On MSNBC from AP right now. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #14
Question: GetRidOfThem Feb 2018 #19
SAN JOSE MERCURY running the story... brooklynite Feb 2018 #20
Didn't she already spill the beans? GusBob Feb 2018 #21
That's what I was thinking... MontanaMama Feb 2018 #22
The Father of Birtherism? Did what? bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #24
I'm guessing "breached our agreement" translates to "pay up, suckers!". Initech Feb 2018 #26
It could also lead to a civil suit underpants Feb 2018 #28
m$nbc just reported this.....so these folks got a scoop!!!!!! spanone Feb 2018 #27
So she got her money and now she can threaten to spill the beans for more money.... Chakaconcarne Feb 2018 #29
She won't talk until she has a lucrative tell-all book deal signed. nt procon Feb 2018 #31
there will be plenty of people drooling at the chance to pay top dollar for her story. unblock Feb 2018 #35
I'm looking forward to a special session of Congress where Trump gets spanked... Rollo Feb 2018 #34
I expect she has better lawyers than Trump does. TNNurse Feb 2018 #36
My dog has better lawyers than trump flibbitygiblets Feb 2018 #44
Ole stormy just got to retire askyagerz Feb 2018 #37
"Worst 130k we ever spent!" forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #41
guess they thought she was just another dumb bimbo...ha!!! samnsara Feb 2018 #45
Looks like... Mike Nelson Feb 2018 #51
I have a REALLY hard time believing that nobody reimbursed him. Either directly OR indirectly. calimary Feb 2018 #53
To be fair... Kensan Feb 2018 #54

Raster

(20,998 posts)
39. Oh, I believe it... tRump* obviously insisted on his usual non-disclosure agreement...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

...he requires ANYONE that works for him (mistresses included) to sign one. Since attack dog Cohen may have just violated the terms of their agreement, she is now *presumably* free to sell her story to the highest bidder.

lark

(23,102 posts)
4. Not exactly correct.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:21 PM
Feb 2018

He said he used his own money to facilitate payment, not that he paid her the $130,000 directly from his own funds. He also didn't say that drumpf personally wasn't involved. So Cohen used his money to set up the account, transferred Hair Furor's $ there, paid the porn actress.

unblock

(52,238 posts)
11. it's not clear what part of the statement supposedly breaches the nda.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:44 PM
Feb 2018

i agree with your point, and from a legal perspective, stormy should proceed with caution.

good form to inform the other party of the alleged breach and allow them a chance to respond and explain why perhaps it's not a breach after all.


of course, i'm hoping it all blows wide open,....

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
16. She has never publicly acknowledged there is an NDA, He did. Depending on the document that may
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:02 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

be enough to violate the terms.
This alone however does not necessarily constitute a breach large enough to void the rest of the agreement.
It may only mean that Daniels is allowed to pursue financial damages for the NDA being made public by the lawyer.
it is for a judge to say if not clearly defined in the agreement

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
23. Her lawyers have probably read the NDA.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:50 PM
Feb 2018

They probably know.

I have a feeling we will all know before too long.

unblock

(52,238 posts)
25. right, devil's in the details.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:52 PM
Feb 2018

revealing the existence of an nda could very well be a breach, and in this case it could be quite consequential.

her interest is in selling her side of the story, and her lawyer could very well have structured the nda so that almost any way in which donnie (or his lawyer) publicly acknowledges the deal or the relationship voids the restrictions on her selling her side of the story.

regardless, in all likelihood this is settled with an additional payment.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
33. Yes, that's one possibility
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:09 PM
Feb 2018

You said, "regardless, in all likelihood this is settled with an additional payment."

Yes, that's one possibility but she and her advisors would have to compare that to what she might be paid for interviews, articles, appearances and/or a book. I wouldn't buy it but a book could be in the seven figures. Would Trump be willing to match a payment that high?

Kensan

(180 posts)
32. Well, let's see...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:06 PM
Feb 2018

Cohen just publicly admitted that:

1. There was a settlement agreement
2. The amount of damages paid per said settlement agreement.
3. The party responsible for paying those damages was Trump.
4. Disclosed the name of the beneficiary party to the settlement payment, Ms. Clifford.

I'd say her attorneys have good cause to say he violated the terms of the NDA.

And best of all, he just opened a huge can of worms regarding the source of the funds. He really didn't help the situation by saying he paid for it out of his own pocket, and never received reimbursement. If he wants to stick with this story, I'm guessing there will be either an ethics, campaign finance or tax law violation in his future.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
38. Where the hell did this clown go to law school?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:33 PM
Feb 2018

Maybe the second worse lawyer ever. Should have stuck with mob figures, not wannabe ones.

Your getting a Valentine for that info.

unblock

(52,238 posts)
49. true, but this is likely a very small agreement.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 05:55 PM
Feb 2018

not like an agreement with 120 parts where you can violate one part and get a remedy for that while keeping the rest of the agreement intact.

in this case, there are likely very few provisions and there's not likely a way keep the bulk of the agreement in place while a provision such as "don't publicly mention this agreement" is violated.

stormy daniel's lawyer likely set up the agreement such that if his side can blab about it, then so can she. which essentially means the nda is kaput.

yardwork

(61,621 posts)
42. Stormy has nothing to lose.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 05:01 PM
Feb 2018

From her point of view, if Trump sues her, that just perpetuates the publicity she's getting. The publicity is worth much more than $130,000 to her. Her own attorneys will counter-sue. It can go on for years and she's raking in the bucks from personal appearances, book and TV deals, etc.

If they wanted her to be quiet, they should have paid her millions for her silence. $130,000 is chicken feed. She can make much more than that by reaping the publicity and notoriety this brings.

Meanwhile, the publicity can't help Trump. And Mueller is writing it all down. It could lead him to interesting places.... organized crime?

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
18. Answer: nothing
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:06 PM
Feb 2018

This just IS. Trump and his minions show no inclination towards strategic thinking. This is just part of the general chaos surrounding him.

unblock

(52,238 posts)
12. actually, i'm sure it's nothing that another $130,000 can't fix.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:46 PM
Feb 2018

well, perhaps the price has gone up.

no problem, it's still less than a single mar-a-lago membership.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
19. Question:
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
Feb 2018

"Cohen said on Tuesday that he had paid a pornographic actress $130,000 out of his own pocket in 2016 who had claimed to have had an affair with Trump."

Did he personally deliver the check?

Whew! That was one expensive date!

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
20. SAN JOSE MERCURY running the story...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
Feb 2018

NEW YORK — Stormy Daniels, the porn star whom President Donald Trump’s personal attorney acknowledges paying $130,000 just before Election Day, believes she is now free to discuss her alleged sexual encounter with Trump.

A manager for the adult film actress told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Daniels believes Trump’s lawyer invalidated a non-disclosure agreement by publicly discussing the payment.

Gina Rodriguez says the actress, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, will discuss her alleged 20006 extramarital affair with Trump.
Attorney Michael Cohen said Tuesday night he paid Clifford with his own funds, making the statement after a campaign finance advocacy organization urged the Federal Election Commission to investigate.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/14/stormy-daniels-says-she-can-tell-trump-story-now/

Initech

(100,076 posts)
26. I'm guessing "breached our agreement" translates to "pay up, suckers!".
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:55 PM
Feb 2018

In either case bring it on!

underpants

(182,809 posts)
28. It could also lead to a civil suit
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:01 PM
Feb 2018

and we've seen what can happen during depositions in civil suits. And that was to an intelligent lawyer let alone whatever the hell it is that Trump is.

unblock

(52,238 posts)
35. there will be plenty of people drooling at the chance to pay top dollar for her story.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:22 PM
Feb 2018

the question is whether donnie will pay that much for her renewed silence.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
34. I'm looking forward to a special session of Congress where Trump gets spanked...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:10 PM
Feb 2018

...with a copy of Forbes magazine in the pit of the chamber...

Hopefully not bare bottom, but that will be his choice...

askyagerz

(776 posts)
37. Ole stormy just got to retire
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:32 PM
Feb 2018

Should be an interesting book. Only in merica can a porn star can get paid to be quite about fooking the president and then turn around and get paid to fook him again

calimary

(81,267 posts)
53. I have a REALLY hard time believing that nobody reimbursed him. Either directly OR indirectly.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:25 PM
Feb 2018

Nobody just hands out 130-grand like that, out of the goodness of his heart, to buy someone's silence, and then leaves it at that. Especially if it was somebody else's transgression and not his own.

You know that old saying - "follow the money."

Kensan

(180 posts)
54. To be fair...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 09:11 PM
Feb 2018

Cohen parsed his words. He specifically mentioned not being reimbursed by the Trump Organization or the Trump Campaign. That's it. I'm positive he was reimbursed, just by a different player in this scheme. Reporters really do need to keep asking him was he reimbursed, and by whom.

Knowing Trump, he probably had his slush fund of a Charitable Foundation reimburse the $130,000. I mean, if you really think about it, what Stormy (aka Ms. Clifford) did pretty much amounted to a charitable act in the first place. Actually, don't think about it.

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