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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:10 PM Feb 2018

Federal judge has blocked President Trump's unlawful order ending DACA -grants nationwide injunction

*BREAKING* A federal judge has blocked President @realDonaldTrump's unlawful order ending the #DACA program and granted our request for a nationwide injunction.















UPDATE TO ADD:

National Immigration Law Center

@NILC_org
BREAKING: Victory for our plaintiffs! A federal court has issued a second order to #ProtectDreamers nationwide. Two federal courts have now determined that @realDonaldTrump's termination of DACA was unlawful.


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Federal judge has blocked President Trump's unlawful order ending DACA -grants nationwide injunction (Original Post) kpete Feb 2018 OP
K&R NCTraveler Feb 2018 #1
Oh boy - chickens running around headless in the WH - who draws the short straw to tell asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #2
There's some good news for a change gratuitous Feb 2018 #3
Interesting pandr32 Feb 2018 #30
Wonderful news Iliyah Feb 2018 #4
Needs to be made permanent injunction Weed Man Feb 2018 #5
Thank you NY AG, Eric Schneiderman! procon Feb 2018 #6
Fantastic!!! nt babylonsister Feb 2018 #7
I hope our laws can withstand the onslaught coming from the Incontinent Ballistic Baldspot world wide wally Feb 2018 #8
that's fabulous. barbtries Feb 2018 #9
Way to go Schneiderman! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #10
Just to understand...A preliminary injunction just temporarily blocks Trumps attempt to end DACA? Fla Dem Feb 2018 #11
There are hearings as to the legality of the way he rescinded it. Igel Feb 2018 #20
Sounds like they are saying DACA can't now be rescinded even if congress doesn't do anything ? MichMan Feb 2018 #26
No, even if the states prevail in court, it would only delay Trump's action. tritsofme Feb 2018 #27
Next Trump action: defund all courts! williesgirl Feb 2018 #12
The federal courts could suffer funding cuts, but that would leave state Sophia4 Feb 2018 #35
Schneiderman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #13
The blue state AGs are saving us on so many fronts. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #14
So Wonderfully Heartwarming! Cha Feb 2018 #17
AWESOME AWESOME bluestarone Feb 2018 #15
Wow! Make it hold! Cha Feb 2018 #16
Good nail bdamomma Feb 2018 #18
this seems like enormous news renate Feb 2018 #19
That was sarcasm, right? OnyxSharpie Feb 2018 #23
YES! Nitram Feb 2018 #21
Good news somewhat for our DACA folks... SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #22
Damn Democrat judges! They just ruined another... dchill Feb 2018 #24
Uh-oh! Better brace yourselves, kids. Time for another Trump Tweet Storm. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #25
Trump is busy tonight helping Hannity by searching the White House Elwood P Dowd Feb 2018 #28
I really hope Stardust1 Feb 2018 #29
huh--I have not heard this anywhere.. I guess the weather must be "stormy" librechik Feb 2018 #31
I can't find anything on this either. 40RatRod Feb 2018 #32
Far out! triron Feb 2018 #33
k and r niyad Feb 2018 #34

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Oh boy - chickens running around headless in the WH - who draws the short straw to tell
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:17 PM
Feb 2018

the POS...wait for it...3-2-1...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. There's some good news for a change
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:20 PM
Feb 2018

I wonder if this will put a kink in the ICE raids, and if we'll stop locking up people who haven't committed a criminal offense?

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
30. Interesting
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 11:57 AM
Feb 2018

That would be wonderful and hopefully would end the push to elevate ICE to a sort of IA. That is some scary sh*t!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Wonderful news
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

alas tho, rush to the USA Supreme Court happening probably now, per our racist DOJ leader head case, Sessions.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
5. Needs to be made permanent injunction
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

and Trump ordered for mental evaluation by fifty independent neurologists who'll come up with the same results: TRUMP IS FUCKING NUTS!

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Thank you NY AG, Eric Schneiderman!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018




Eric Schneiderman
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#BREAKING: Our coalition of 17 AGs just won a preliminary injunction blocking @POTUS’s discriminatory attempt to end #DACA and deport DREAMers.



BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
10. Way to go Schneiderman!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:44 PM
Feb 2018

Earlier today the moron said that the Dems didn't really want to negotiate a serious immigration deal then he later said that he was only kidding. Ha, ha.


Fla Dem

(23,723 posts)
11. Just to understand...A preliminary injunction just temporarily blocks Trumps attempt to end DACA?
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 07:08 PM
Feb 2018

Not a final judgement? What happens now?

Igel

(35,337 posts)
20. There are hearings as to the legality of the way he rescinded it.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 07:40 PM
Feb 2018

It's not saying DACA is the law. It's saying that the process he used to rescind the memo didn't follow the required publicize proposal, review it, take comments, etc. APA stuff.

It's also not saying that DACA is legal. And previously it was pointed out that it doesn't matter if the promulgation of the DACA memo also failed to follow the APA requirements--they sort of did that after the ball was rolling, but once established however irregularly it must be dealt with as a fact on the ground.

MichMan

(11,958 posts)
26. Sounds like they are saying DACA can't now be rescinded even if congress doesn't do anything ?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 12:29 AM
Feb 2018

Even though DACA was never passed into law in the first place, if it can't be rescinded, doesn't that essentially make it a law?

tritsofme

(17,394 posts)
27. No, even if the states prevail in court, it would only delay Trump's action.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 12:53 AM
Feb 2018

My understanding is that a best case scenario outcome would be that Trump is required to follow the APA and have a notice and comment period before withdrawing DACA. Even this outcome is questionable, Obama's position was that DACA or DAPA did not fall under the APA, but some court ruling suggested he may have been forced to comply.

So while the turnabout is rather ironic, whether Trump can be forced to comply with the APA in withdrawing an order that was not issued under it is question well above my pay scale.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
35. The federal courts could suffer funding cuts, but that would leave state
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

courts.

Without federal courts, no immigration laws could be enforced. That would mean that if an immigrant, let's say for example, an immigrant who entered our country legally, committed a crime, the immigration court would not be there to deport him or her. That person might end up in a state prison rather than be sent out of the country.

So defunding or cutting the funding for federal courts would not help Trump.

Congress needs to enact a DACA law, an immigration law.

It is very difficult to live in a country if you don't know the language of that country well. The DACA applicants are American in terms of language and culture. It would be difficult for them to go to the countries in which they were born.

I knew my great-grandfather when he was very old. He went as a 12-year-old with his father to fight in the Civil War for the Union. He came to this country as a child. No one knew that until he died and we found his Taufschein, which is German for his German baptismal certificate. He was not born in this country. He was brought in by his parents. Today we would consider him an "illegal" because he apparently did not go through immigration procedures.

Our immigration procedures were not always as clear as they are today. Many of US would not be here if our ancestors had been so rigorously categorized and questioned before they entered the US.

I side with the DACA immigrants as long as they do not commit the crimes for which immigrants are deported.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
22. Good news somewhat for our DACA folks...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:14 PM
Feb 2018

tRUMP seems to think he has unlimited power. He doesn't. Period.

Now to legislate a durable and lasting solution to this situation, and quit using these kids and their families as hostages.

dchill

(38,516 posts)
24. Damn Democrat judges! They just ruined another...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:52 PM
Feb 2018

Ayn Rand Society weenie roast! It's un-Murican!

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