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Playbook scoop: Pelosi pulls in nearly $50M for House Dems in 2017 (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
She is so, so horrible for the party... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #1
She is such a horrible speaker... kirby Feb 2018 #2
. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #5
Best leader in generations! mcar Feb 2018 #3
Or they know the facts.... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #7
Or that mcar Feb 2018 #10
If she was ineffective, the oppressives wouldn't give a tin shit about Pelosi gratuitous Feb 2018 #4
Great job. dalton99a Feb 2018 #6
K&R nt. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #8
For starters, I'll say I mostly like Pelosi, even if I'd still rather different leadership, but JCanete Feb 2018 #9
Yup, big donor money comes with strings attached Amishman Feb 2018 #11

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
1. She is so, so horrible for the party...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:50 AM
Feb 2018


Facts are facts. Nancy led one of the most productive House terms in history. Her ability to raise money for the Party is still strong.

Bashing her just to bash her is muy counterproductive.

kirby

(4,442 posts)
2. She is such a horrible speaker...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:06 PM
Feb 2018

But obviously a great fundraiser. She should stick to her strengths. Her rambling and stuttering during speaking is not a good public representative of the party or caucus. I am not a good speaker myself but I cannot she her getting better than a C- in a public speaking class.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. If she was ineffective, the oppressives wouldn't give a tin shit about Pelosi
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:15 PM
Feb 2018

But her name keeps coming up in the ongoing live slam book that is our political discourse. She's too thin, she's too short, her eyes are too big, she has a funny-sounding last name, carp, complain, nit-pick. If she was an empty suit, the opposition wouldn't care. But she's effective, on so many levels in so many ways. So we get the fly-specking of all things Pelosi, some of which gulls even our fellow Democrats.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
9. For starters, I'll say I mostly like Pelosi, even if I'd still rather different leadership, but
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:13 PM
Feb 2018

among those of us who feel that way, I don't think its a matter of not understanding that she and our other leaders bring in money. In fact, its about the money and where it comes from and how that affects our policy. Now, to what degree that happens, or whether or not it is simply a necessary evil in our political system are worthy things to debate, but pointing to the money(which the op didn't do but others have and will) and saying that that proves that she's a good leader and that only enemies of Democrats and progressive policy would try to disparage her, is working with the worst evidence possible. Plenty of other things to cite to make the case that Pelosi is a great leader, but big money ain't one.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
11. Yup, big donor money comes with strings attached
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:22 PM
Feb 2018

I know we desperately need it given the bigger picture, but I get a little uncomfortable whenever big bucks are raised behind closed doors

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