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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this typical professional 'office' wear?
Short skirt? Over the knee boots? Blouse open to expose most cleavage?...
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Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #1)
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onecent
(6,096 posts)None of these men are BLIND.
janterry
(4,429 posts)Sorry, feminist here, but it's the truth.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)dalton99a
(81,635 posts)Voltaire2
(13,200 posts)It seems to me to be an entirely irrelevant and perhaps dubious criticism.
I care what they do.
Demit
(11,238 posts)How about short shorts? Tube tops? Skirts with thigh-high slits?
writerJT
(190 posts)Voltaire2
(13,200 posts)It seems to me to be an entirely irrelevant and perhaps dubious criticism that is almost invariably targeted at women.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Of course the criticism is aimed at women. Men aren't dressing to reveal more and more skin in the office. That's not a trend.
i was shopping for male leggings/thermal underwear. I now see tons of ads for see-through mesh underwear, jock straps etc. I'm not looking for that but that is what the algorithms say I want. Not telling women what to wear or men either but the "google" says I want to buy some of that transparent stuff.
safeinOhio
(32,729 posts)steaming the wrinkles out of presidential pants while wearing them.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)Kilgore
(1,733 posts)From what I can see, the days of conservative business attire among women below 40 is pretty much gone.
magicarpet
(14,181 posts)Kilgore
(1,733 posts)The displays of cleavage, short skirts, and high heels was there well before Trump.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)I'm in my 30s. Now my job is one where I can wear jeans most days, but it is increasingly difficult to find business attire that is age appropriate and affordable. Most women under 40 do not want to dress like their mother/grandmother.
I own one blazer (which I had to go to about 7 different stores to find). In the winter, my business attire is that blazer and a knee length skirt (leggings and boots underneath) or a cardigan instead of the blazer.
In the summer my attire is a just above the knee solid navy dress.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Your sentiment may just as accurately apply to males as well. Cargo short and flip flops seem a most popular trend.
magicarpet
(14,181 posts)She presents herself as drool candy for the men at the office. She well knows the assigned and designated lane she is intended to travel - and keeps herself within that lane.
She is a lady who knows her femininity can be used as a tool and/or weapon and intends to wield it to her best advantage to help maintain her current position and help her get ahead.
Her intellect is not the commodity Hope brings to tr-dump table - her offerings at this alter are limited to the superficiality of attractiveness and feminine beauty. Most likely as shallow and hollow as her boss. Appearance means everything - substance means nothing.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)She looks fine; stylish and professional. Standards and norms evolve.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)I can't count how many times I've seen Bannon criticized on DU for his unprofessional attire. No one has ever claimed the complaints were those of 'chuch ladies'
Codeine
(25,586 posts)rumpled, ill-fitting shirt? No, shes wearing a nice outfit that you just dont like. Theres a difference between Mr. Bannon wearing the unironed contents of his dirty clothes hamper and the outfit in question.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)The question was - Is it professional office attire?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Theres really nothing indecent or overly-revealing about what shes wearing. You can see similar outfits in many workplaces. If a staffer in a Democratic administration were wearing this outfit nobody on DU would complain. The whole issue is ridiculous.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)That was my only point. Yes, I think the outfit is quite stylish! But I'm not sure it's appropriate for the WH
Organizations have dress codes for a reason
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Get the fainting couch
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)I already said I like her outfit - it's quite stylish
Sigh. As usual, the thread seems to have derailed from the OP's original question.
Do thread respondents consider the attire professional?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Tidy, stylish, and not particularly revealing or sexualized. I fail to see what makes it unprofessional.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Man, the guy is not looking healthy. I can understand why his liver would want to escape his body.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)I try not to think about it
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)If it is his liver, that guy is not long for this world. Look at him again - creepy!
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)I only have two. Some people have supranumerary mammary glands. But an odd number of boobs is a rarity, don't you think?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Ilsa
(61,700 posts)A wolf pack? Maybe.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)writerJT
(190 posts)Nor when Christie is criticized for his weight.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)of all the things to complain about in the White House...
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)It seems we have the lascivious group - who like to speculate as to what certain politicians look like naked - and then there is the church lady group, who start the pearl clutching at an open shoulder blouse or a gasp short skirt,
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)If I worked with her, I'd think seriously about hitting on her. For about ten seconds. And then I'd wake up and ask myself wtf I was thinking. Something about her makes me think Black Widow, and I don't intend to become a woman's lunch - even if she wears fetish boots to work...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)over-the-knee boots, which are perfectly fashionable.
And what kind of person thinks about hitting on coworkers based on their boot choices? Some days this place. . .
Boomerproud
(7,968 posts)halls of the WH where RR Superstar ALWAYS wore a suit and tie to work! She's a Ivanka wannabee and I can tell you when I worked in the banking industry for 33 years (not involving meeting public), we had strict dress codes and dear little Hope would have been sent home-not paid by your and my tax dollars.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)So what's your point?
She would have been kicked out of a temperance movement meeting too... So what?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Not whether it is appropriate or not. I think we all know the answer to that.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... just like some folks in this thread.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I was kidding around about being a quasi-typical male, but I guess it didn't show.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)tblue37
(65,490 posts)often inappropriately dressed for his WH job.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)At any workplace I've ever been in, he would have been sent home, along with a bar of soap and a toothbrush.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Skirts have gone up close to the late 60's miniskirt in length. This is a buttoned up long sleeve, black or navy business dress just a few inches above the knee, with high boots that have relatively sturdy, 2 or 2-1/2" heels. I can't believe people are upset about it. And honestly, Michelle might very well have worn it just an inch or two longer as she's no longer in her 20's.
PunksMom
(440 posts)there was always a dress code. Im not sure if the WH standards, oh wait...they have no standards.
Do we really expect anything more?
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)former9thward
(32,093 posts)In any office I have been in.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Flowered pants on the left ... hideous taste but nothing wrong for office wear
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)brush
(53,922 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)JI7
(89,276 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A short skirt would be above mid thigh. The boots should go. She should go, she has zero qualifications for the job.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)the skirt ends above them. You can see where her knee is in the boot that's scrunched a bit lower.
I wouldn't wear a skirt that short in an office setting, but overall she looks fine.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I never had an issue with that and did not look at it in a sexual way by any measure. They were just coworkers.
Vinca
(50,313 posts)Looks like something I'd schlep around the house in.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Many organizations (and schools) have a 'fingertip rule' where if your fingertips reach the hemline of the skirt it is fine. It looks like this skirt meets the fingertip rule.
As far as over the knee boots-- that's what's fashionable this season. Don't criticize a woman in her 20s for wearing fashionable clothes.
Demit
(11,238 posts)the clothes (the boots especially) are appropriate as office wear. If the setting was a trendy Georgetown bar and not the White House, no problem.
blogslut
(38,019 posts)I wouldn't even wear those ironically.
As for the willingness of people to deprive Ms. Hicks of her agency due to stupidity or youth or because she's some sexual toy, nope. She is a grown-ass woman and her choice to be evil is all her own.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)I like her boots.
Hope's problem isn't her clothing, it's her choice in men.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)OneBlueDotBama
(1,385 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)nt
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And its totally appropriate office wear. Its not skin tight, its not revealing.
Shes pretty. If people are distracted by that, that says more about them then about Hope Hicks outfit.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)So, for her, yes.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Depending on the employer, it might be.
3catwoman3
(24,055 posts)The docs and I wear street clothes and no lab coats.
I ypically examine smal children while they are sitting on a parental lap. We get lots of dads bringing in their kids. I scrupulously avoid anything with a V-neck. When I am leaning forward to examine the kid, I don't need what modest cleavage I have being available to be looked at.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Stripper poles..cos play outfits...the privacy of your bedroom.
My hubby loves them. He wouldn't want me wearing them to work.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)WH streetwalker or something ?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Eye candy for old men.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Let me guess, if she gets harassed she deserves it because she should have dressed differently?
I need to just hide this thread. It's disgusting.
Demit
(11,238 posts)If you can't grasp that the criticism is about what kind of dress is appropriate in an office settingand boots like these are designed to be sexually alluring, to make the woman wearing them look "hot"then yes, you probably should quit trying to put words into people's mouths and hide the thread.
Keep talking. I don't need to put words in anyone's mouth. You're making your position clear just fine yourself. You think a woman wouldn't wear attractive boots unless her goal is to be sexually alluring to people in her workplace. That's fucked up.
Thread trashed.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)that would have told me all I needed to know about my value in an organization...I would have quit there and then..
It's unfortunate that people want to read into what they want...
JI7
(89,276 posts)meadowlander
(4,406 posts)Can we get back to discussing the dismantlement of our democratic institutions?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)the dismantlement of our democratic institutions ain't doing shit...
SunSeeker
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SunSeeker
(51,740 posts)TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)Stylish and professional -- and I'm fairly conservative when it comes to office attire. I've seen questionable outfits on some women in cable news though. I'm thinking dresses I would expect to see at a cocktail party or nightclub.
jmowreader
(50,566 posts)She'd never be allowed to wear it at my shop...part of our operation qualifies as a factory, so the heels she is wearing wouldn't be acceptable. If they were lower, you could wear that. However, the dress IS office wear in this time.
What I can't believe is Trump allows anyone to wear embroidered jeans and a sweatshirt like the woman in back has on.
EX500rider
(10,874 posts)Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)That would even be inappropriate for casual Friday.
kcr
(15,320 posts)And the pants the woman standing by her is wearing are even worse. Does anyone working in this White House know how to dress?
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)from others at the office after Melania set the tone?
And for the record, I don't give a good goddamn what she wears, but if this were Michelle Obama or any other Democrat, we would be hearing the entire Repig echo chamber screaming, "Whore!"
sanatanadharma
(3,739 posts)...lap dance chair
BTW, according to my wife, high heels are never appropriate attire except for masochists
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)The lady she is with is causally attired, there is no context for this picture and I can despise Hicks without worrying about what she has on.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Maybe that's how she keeps Rob Porter passive.
Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)one would think "submit boots" are de rigeur.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)K....guess I learn something new everyday...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Texasgal
(17,048 posts)are you?
There is NOTHING wrong with this attire. It's modern and what women are wearing.