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H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:36 PM Feb 2018

A Soft Parade




"Can you give me sanctuary
I must find a place to hide
A place for me to hide

“Can you find me soft asylum
I can't make it anymore
The Man is at the door ….”
Mr. Moho Risin'


The Trump meltdown is underway. You know that, of course. I had anticipated that he'd approach this point of losing self-control later in the month of February. It's pleasant to see things unfolding faster than expected.

There are several reasons that Trump is behaving like a trapped animal (the most obvious being that he is). For sake of discussion, we can personalize two of the most important: Representative Adam Schiff and Robert Mueller. It's funny how that works, considering that Trump likes to personalize problems, and depersonalize people.

Trump has been warned by his lawyers that attacking the Department of Justice and FBI is not a good tactic. It's better, they have said, not to publicly attack anyone, but if you have to attack anyone, make it a Democrat. His political advisers recommended that he attack the “process” of the investigation that now threatens his presidency – but attack what took place before Mr. Mueller was appointed.

The president's cohorts worked with Rep. Nunes in an attempt to discredit the DOJ/FBI's FISA warrant application for Carter Page. Recent events suggest they recently became aware that Page may have been a double-agent, which is of considerable concern in terms of Trump being questioned by Mr. Mueller. However, the Nunes memo turned out to be as impotent as his March, 2017 “emergency” press conference.

Democrats in the committee are looking to have their memo in response to the Nunes nonsense. Rep. Schiff has become a powerful and important voice on these matters. Hence, Trump's recent attempt – totally unsuccessful – to target Rep. Schiff were doomed to failure. It's said that this frustrates, and he does not do frustration well. I anticipate this dynamic will provide more entertainment as the weeks go by.

Trump fears confrontations with two men – Putin and Mr. Mueller. There is no expectations for Trump to engage in conflict with Putin on the horizon. However, events are on course for a conflict with Mr. Mueller in regard to the interview that Trump has long said he'd gladly participate in. It's not like he's worried about lying to the press and public. But he fears being exposed as the punk he is …..and so he knows, should he attempt to opt out on the advice of his lawyers, he'll be seen as a coward.

Worse yet, his lawyers haven't the ability to protect Trump if he gets a certified invitation – for him, alone – to talk to Mr. Mueller in front of the grand jury. Trump could, of course, exercise his fifth amendment rights. Trump would have to be fully convinced that wouldn't “leak” to the media. Despite Team Mueller and the grand jury's having not leaked thus far, Trump is far too paranoid to think this wouldn't leak immediately. (Indeed, it might, considering Trump's legal team's history.)

So, will Donald roll the dice, and attempt to go toe-to-toe with Mr. Mueller? His lawyers and friends are almost all telling him not to, because they – like everyone else – know that would end badly for him. The cowardly Trump doesn't process information well under mild stress; the current events have created the most significant pressure of his presidency. So what's a Donald to do?

The “shut down” tantrum at the beginning of the week served as a preview of what will surely follow. This wasn't simply a president angered by Democrats in the House and Senate. Watch his eyes while he's spouting the vile. Then, consider the underlying message: if Trump would favor shutting the government down if he didn't get his way, what is he capable of if the Mueller investigation threatens to remove him from office?

Let's see ….what else has been reported recently, that might be connected? Perhaps Trump's increasing desire to have a military parade? One question: who do you think that Trump fantasizes will honor? Clearly, this is a highly disturbed i8ndividual who has convinced himself that, if the legislative and judicial branches attempt to remove him, he can just say no, as “commander-in-chief.”

Both Nixon and Reagan had officials who willingly served as “lightening rods” to distract attention from them when there was a threat that the shit was about to hit the fan. (Cheney had George W., who unwittingly did so.) Thus, when General Kelly was reported to have said some offensive things, one could be forgiven for mistaken this has volunteer lightning rodding. But it's far, far worse than that.

In his book on “The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness,” Erich Fromm addressed how a malignant narcissist will influence certain military leaders and others. Much of the book focused on Hitler, making use of the historic record to illustrate this concept. Simply put, a malignant narcissist appeals to other people's very worst side. He provides the fertilizer necessary for others' bad sides to grow and flower …..so that his madness can flourish

That Kelly would express support for Rob Porter is not surprising. I've yet to see any forum member posting, “Gosh! I didn't see that coming!” It's not a shock to learn that a racist pig is also a sexist pig. It's not just Porter who is mired in that “look what you made me do!” mindset. Kelly clearly believes that whatever happened, the women deserved it. He'd defend the “grab them by the pussy” bit if it surfaced while he was serving Trump.

This is the ilk of human beings currently in charge of the executive branch. Because they inhabit a shared psychosis, all the insanity seems “normal” to them. If there were ever a “normal” person in the Trump circle, they would rapidly feel isolated, and questioning their own sanity. They could not last. This is one of the important factors in normalizing Trump's behavior.

Another factor for spreading the insane atmosphere can be found in attempts to either dictate to the media what their coverage will be. The obvious example is Fox News. Imagine, if you will, the distorted mental processing required to identify Fox News as reality-based. Any journalists who do report accurately are attacked, discredited, and ignored.

The positive aspects are that just as some ordinary people fulfill their worst potential while in the orbit of a malignant narcissist, others can and do step up to a higher level. Contrast the difference between the general corporate media's initial support of the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq, with today's coverage of Trump. Numerous journalists are delivering news that is powerful and true.

Likewise, a growing number of Democrats in the House and Senate are stepping up. This includes those who are advocating for the investigation of the Trump-Russian scandal. It includes a number of Democrats who are able to convince some important republican leaders to let the White House know that Trump must not fire Mr. Mueller. And it includes a few who are working behind the scenes to abort any plans Trump may have for a “preemptive strike” against North Korea, to try to create an emergency state in the US.

Trump will be getting a parade soon, though not the type he fantasizes about.

Peace,
H2O Man
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A Soft Parade (Original Post) H2O Man Feb 2018 OP
I'm proud to be part of this number. n/t Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #1
Right. H2O Man Feb 2018 #2
(Cheney had George W., who unwittingly did so.) A rueful laugh in the middle of a reflective and NBachers Feb 2018 #3
Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2018 #5
You Nailed It Me. Feb 2018 #4
Some of them will, H2O Man Feb 2018 #7
It's Mojo Danascot Feb 2018 #6
Yep. H2O Man Feb 2018 #8
DJT Jr has an ode to his daddy Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #9
Great song! H2O Man Feb 2018 #11
Thanks for the interesting thread, as well as the info on Mr. Mojo Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #12
I love the Doors. H2O Man Feb 2018 #15
He's a narcissist with a very fragile ego. But there are people who find that to their advantage. struggle4progress Feb 2018 #10
Exactly. H2O Man Feb 2018 #16
Right on! kentuck Feb 2018 #13
Thanks for that! H2O Man Feb 2018 #17
Excellent post WaterMan malaise Feb 2018 #14
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2018 #18
What do you make of Rachel Brand coeur_de_lion Feb 2018 #19
She could not have H2O Man Feb 2018 #20
Good summary of events! burrowowl Feb 2018 #21
Thanks. H2O Man Feb 2018 #22
I Sensitive soul Feb 2018 #23

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
2. Right.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018

This is the time when it is important for everyone to do battle with the administration, and all those who are actively supporting it.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
3. (Cheney had George W., who unwittingly did so.) A rueful laugh in the middle of a reflective and
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:06 AM
Feb 2018

substantial post. I'm always glad to read what you've written.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
5. Thank you.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:47 AM
Feb 2018

I had originally planned a short essay, but one thing led to another. It came out longer than I had hoped for. I'm glad that you read and liked it.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. You Nailed It
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:06 AM
Feb 2018

They're grabbing power and passing legislation while they can did/does not seem a sufficient argument for a world gone mad. But this one sentence fills in the blanks for me..."Simply put, a malignant narcissist appeals to other people's very worst side. He provides the fertilizer necessary for others' bad sides to grow and flower …..so that his madness can flourish'. It's like a virus.

Now what I wonder is, does there ever come a time when those in thrall snap to?

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
7. Some of them will,
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:53 AM
Feb 2018

and others won't. It depends upon if they have a core identity and personality. Unfortunately, many are like Rob Porter: they have made themselves into a product, rather than a person. And that product they attempt to sell to the highest bidder requires that what personality that they actually have gets repressed. In public, they always put forth the product. Because they fail to develop in other ways, they fail to become fully human.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
6. It's Mojo
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:50 AM
Feb 2018

It's from LA Woman
Mr Mojo Risin is an anagram for Jim Morrison
He's talking about his dick

What you wrote is an excellent analysis. Well worth reading.

Peace

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
8. Yep.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:55 AM
Feb 2018

I believe I wrote about Mr. Mojo Risin' in one of my last two OPs. And, of course, those letters spell Him's name.

Thank you.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
11. Great song!
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:50 AM
Feb 2018

Jim wrote much of that one while in high school, after a girlfriend broke up with him. I suspect that it fits the mood in White House now. Thank you!

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
12. Thanks for the interesting thread, as well as the info on Mr. Mojo
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:59 AM
Feb 2018

Saw what looked to be a home vid by them when I was a freshman in college

Remember thinking it was was.....



So many great small venue live sets:



Found something to listen to while I clean......

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
15. I love the Doors.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

And I think Jim, more than the others, did some inspired filming, including when he was in college and right up through to his untimely death. I liked that even Marcia Clark kept a poster of Him in her office, while she was a prosecutor.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
10. He's a narcissist with a very fragile ego. But there are people who find that to their advantage.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 04:33 AM
Feb 2018

As long as someone is licking his boots, he's happy. And he's likely to keep the door open for those folk

The GOP, to its eternal shame, has decided to play along, the implicit deal being that they, with cute smiles, make a show of loving, honoring, and obeying him, while he (in turn) gives them what they want: Gorsuch, the tax bill, etc

It's the same with the rightwing evangelicals: as long as they proclaim him the anointed, his door is open to them, and he'll do what he can to keep them singing his praises

There are probably others playing the same one note tune: Russians, libertarians, and so on

It can't last forever. But when the games stop, he quickly becomes erratic, looking for his adoring mobs. It's an unsettling time

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
16. Exactly.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:12 PM
Feb 2018

The sooner he is gone, the better. Yeah, he sure does "hire the right guys,' doesn't he? They have already inflicted severe damage. It is necessary to remove him, before they do even worse.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
19. What do you make of Rachel Brand
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

resigning?

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/09/politics/rachel-brand-resigns/index.html|


I think she believes Sessions & Rosenstein are about to be fired and that would leave her in charge. Then Trump would try to force her to fire Mueller. She wanted no part of that mess.

Am I right?

She's known to be friends with Ted Cruz of all people. So she is a republican.


H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
20. She could not have
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:17 PM
Feb 2018

served in Rosenstein's position overseeing Mr. Mueller, since her husband is in the law firm currently representing one of the two people indicted (unless her husband opted to leave the firm). More, while she is a qualified person for the DOJ position she has had, there are reasons to believe that supervising Team Mueller would fit with her experience. And she is certainly aware that Trump would have pressured her to fire Mr. Mueller without cause. Safe to say she didn't want to be in that situation.

It is likely that she felt pressured to resign, as the Trump folks apparently believe the next-in-line would be sympathetic to the White House. But there is a conflict of interest there, too. It is unclear what the immediate future holds.

Being friends with Ted Cruz should qualify as a conflict with reality.

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