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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you support extending all of the tax cuts for 1 year in return for
getting the "Disclose Act" passed?
The Democrats really really need to get all these donations made public. Perhaps this could be the basis for a deal.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)for a while now...like a couple hundred years...
quid pro quo...
sP
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)It works well when both sides are dealing in good faith. This "trade" would be a fail on both counts.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)hence the use of the phrase.
thank you for your attempt to correct me.
sP
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)so that any advantage gained would be temporary, at best, and the less Citizens United becomes settled law, the better.
The reckless tax cuts have poisoned this country. Starving the government for another year (starving us in the process) should not be on the table. Ever.
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)If this was brought to the Supreme Court the Democrats would prevail.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)If he can return to 2009 levels, he's a worthy investment.
But that's a big if.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Sometimes simply a change of environment does wonders... Remember Jim Plunkett?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)And both are possible, it just may take longer with the discose act.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)leftstreet
(36,116 posts)If rich people aren't planning to be 'job creators,' they can let us keep some of the wealth
Autumn
(45,120 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Let them obstruct, and let the Democrats in Congress screw their gonads on and fight tooth and nail, calling out the GOP on their obstruction every single damned day over and over and over.
rurallib
(62,451 posts)BTW I own a bridge in a metropolitan area that I have to let go due to some unexpected turn of events.
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Tax cuts for the wealthy stay for one year in exchange for publicly funded elections and single payer Health insurance (not just for one year, indefinitely.)
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)And all tax cuts will be kept on the first 200K for single people and 250K for smug marrieds.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Just not sure what you were trying to say.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Everyone gets to keep the tax cut on their first 200K (I was single until April so I'm familiar with the single limits) and the first 250K if they are married. This is what is in place today.
The difference - my husband and I would be paying a higher tax rate on every single penny we earn over the first 250K.
Trust me - it's not going to hurt us. And we live in Central NJ in a community with an extremely high cost of living.
Doesn't matter - let them all expire if Boehner and CantDO Nuthin' are unwilling to help the couple that only makes 100K in our community.
Then put them back during the next congress for those who are under the limits.
It's simple.
tritsofme
(17,403 posts)Johonny
(20,890 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Then the following year there will be another deal, a deal for something we shouldn't have to dea for.
This is the end of the line.
Jump off the cliff. If it costs us seats then so be it.
It will trigger massive defensive cuts and the cuts to the social programs we will have to bear.
In the future the Republicans will be much more likely to come to a reasonable agreement because they know that we have limits.
Right now we are enablers. We enable the Republicans to be crazy.
Now is the time to make them pay for their insanity.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)negotiated at the same time.
There is no possibility of getting the Democrats to agree to the cuts necessary to stave off sequestration without increasing taxes on the very rich, so while they are separate bills they are part of the same equation.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Sequestration is currently the law, and unless it's repealed, it's going to happen.
I can very easily see the Republicans allowing sequestration to occur if they know that the tax cuts will all expire.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)They say that it was the only way to reduce an out of control military budget.
They think that it is the only way to get the deficit in order.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)Tax cuts should be ended for all income groups. Tax cut mentality that has been pushed for decades has led to a greed mentality in this country. End for all.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I'm thinking it is time to end these freaking Bush tax cuts and I would need some serious convincing to support anything else.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)For getting Citizens United repealed lock, stock and barrel? Then we would have something to talk about.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)I am sick and tired of hearing the wealthy, GOP and conservatives bitch about taxes, having to pay a pittance (in comaprison percentage wise) and they get to say on Fox and any other conservative media thatt they don't want THEIR tax dollars funding abortions, feeding poor people, welfare!!!
I don't want MY tax dollars funding these senseless goddamn wars!
Smilo
(1,944 posts)I, for one, have had enough of their games and run arounds.
Yes, we do need the Disclose Act to pass, but this suggestion would make the price would be too high.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)OFF THE FUCKING CLIFF
I am tired of this distortive shite being negotiated away for a handful of magic beans.
1. WE GO OFF THE CLIFF
2. WE INTRODUCE A MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT
3. WE MAKE THE FUCKERS FIGHT IT
Period. End of story. All she wrote.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Where I would be willing to make a deal is on the mandatory cuts to military spending that have their briefs twisted up their arses currently. We'll take the Pentagon cuts off the table...in exchange for a tax-hike on the wealthy. They get their bombs and planes and they get to pay for them too.
It's a Salome moment and I want Grover Norquist's head on a platter and his pledge gutted like a fish.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Guess what. When the hammer falls, the cuts end, and sequestration starts... we aren't going to NEED the disclose act. Because those mountains of money aren't going to be backing the GOPers who let it happen.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Every time the fucking bush tax cuts - the ones that drained the treasury and caused a tsunami of debt - come up for renewal the bidding starts on what we will take as a bribe to not shit our pants when our party folds again.
Fuck that. Die tax cuts die.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Red Ink is good for holders of Treasury notes. Other than them, not so much.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)TBF
(32,102 posts)Reasonable_Argument
(881 posts)The country needs revenue and cannot afford to keep the Bush Tax cuts any longer. To be honest we couldn't afford them in the first place, but that's water under the bridge at this point.