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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA question about social security benefits if you die
If you are single with no dependents and die before you are old enough to begin collecting, what is your estate entitled to? I ask, because I just found out in Canada under the Canada Pension Plan, you get a $2500 death benefit and that's it, even though you might have paid up to $135,000 into the plan over your lifetime.
dry99
(168 posts)That's it.
rzemanfl
(29,575 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Just like any insurance program, it presumes some will take some, some will take the max, and some will get nothing. It's called shared risk. It's vastly more efficient than bearing the risk as an individual. Pension programs work roughly the same way.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)What everyone forgets is that SS is NOT a vested retirement plan-- it is purely pay as you go.
People paying in today are paying for beneficiaries today, not paying into their retirement fund.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Or something very close to that.
If my husband were to die, I'd be able to collect the $270 and vice-versa. and that is abt. it as far as any sort of pay-offs go.
Had he a life insurance policy that is another issue altogether and has no effect on Social Security.
When my father died (over 20 years ago), my mother knew not what to do. They had never discussed it. I was horrified by the incident so much that I prearranged cremation for my husband and myself.
In hindsight, I am glad I prearranged. It was plain awful seeing a woman with a dead body on her hands, grief-stricken and not knowing what to do.
The cost at that time was abt. $1600.00 for both of us. Today it would easily cost twice that much so it was money well spent I hope. That hefty $270. (or whatever it is) is all your spourse would be able to get to help with funeral expenses is the idea. Some idea eh? It has not increased since my father died -- same amount today best I know.
onethatcares
(16,194 posts)I found my self in a similar predicament. Pre purchase is the way to go, the ghouls that will charge exorbitant rates for death are everywhere.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)I guess my real reason behind it was I could see myself dead self somewhere and no one would pick up the tab for a dead me.
The idea of ending up in a potter's field somewhere does not appeal to me.
In any event, the issue is now a dead one and I no longer think or worry about it.
Yonnie3
(17,500 posts)A whopping $255 and not payable when you are not receiving payments already except if you qualify in the month of death. But you said no dependents or spouse, so not even in that case.
https://www.ssa.gov/planners/survivors/ifyou7.html
I am not an expert in these matters.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)When I prearranged my funeral some years back, I asked about that and was told my beneficiary would receive nothing from S/S and that it was for a wife and/or children.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)to someone if you are married...if you are not married ...NOTHING!
backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Some things might not be covered such as grave digging, vault, and taxes.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)... my ashes will be sent to a Buddhist temple on the west coast.
They will hold a service and scatter the ashes.
Shrek
(3,986 posts)They're just paying payroll taxes to fund transfer payments to current beneficiaries.
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Surviving spouse only.