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babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:14 PM Feb 2018

EU will only make trade deals with nations that ratify Paris climate agreement



EU will only make trade deals with nations that ratify Paris climate agreement
The United States would be excluded.
E.A. Crunden
Feb 6, 2018, 5:01 pm


The European Union will no longer make trade deals with the United States if President Trump follows through on withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement, according to a French official whose comments were endorsed by the European Commission.

Addressing the French parliament on Thursday, French foreign affairs minister Jean-Baptiste Lemoyne drew a line in the sand.

“One of our main demands is that any country who signs a trade agreement with EU should implement the Paris Agreement on the ground,” said Lemoyne. “No Paris Agreement, no trade agreement. The [United States] knows what to expect.


EU trade commissioner Cecilia Malmström tweeted support Lemoyne’s comments on Thursday.

“Yes Paris deal reference needed in all EU trade agreement today,” she wrote.

A day later, a spokesperson for the European Commission — which manages the EU’s day-to-day business — elaborated on Malmström’s stance while voicing support for the comments as well.

“Since the deal we concluded last year with Japan, this chapter contains an explicit reference to the ratification and actual implementation of the Paris climate deal,” the spokesperson told Climate Home News. “This point is a priority for the EU and it would be difficult to imagine concluding an important trade deal without an ambitious chapter on trade and sustainable development attached to it.”


That assertion means that any country that fails to ratify the Paris agreement — a landmark accord that was signed by virtually every country in the world in an effort to prevent global temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees Celsius this century — will be shut out of new trade deals.

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https://thinkprogress.org/eu-paris-us-decd4aad9145/
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EU will only make trade deals with nations that ratify Paris climate agreement (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2018 OP
Make America Great Again gratuitous Feb 2018 #1
Literally makes me ill. nt babylonsister Feb 2018 #3
Make America Alone Pachamama Feb 2018 #5
Make America Special Again Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #15
Make America Go Alone. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #17
Your move stable genius Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #2
Ouch, and GOOD for the EU. Hortensis Feb 2018 #4
The Shart of the Deal strikes again. tanyev Feb 2018 #6
Good for them because there should be penalties for not ratifying the Paris Accord. femmedem Feb 2018 #7
Come on now, Mr. 'I, alone, know it all'... SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #8
This is one of the reasons being involved is so important. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #9
Maybe Stardust1 Feb 2018 #10
Climate denier Don just shut America down. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #11
We just got sanctioned. So much winning! JDC Feb 2018 #12
the paris agreement is a joke Mosby Feb 2018 #13
But where will we export all that clean beautiful coal? nt Xipe Totec Feb 2018 #14
Laughable Koch affiliated Institute for energy research. bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #16
the links I used might be total crap Mosby Feb 2018 #23
My sources are crap but my premise is sound? LanternWaste Feb 2018 #29
you havent exactly presented evidence to the contrary Mosby Feb 2018 #30
+1 BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #28
We can hope that sooner rather than later they'll catch on to the fact PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #18
As long as we're all joking around gratuitous Feb 2018 #19
that may very well be true Mosby Feb 2018 #24
Everyone sets their own goals karynnj Feb 2018 #20
China has a moratorium on new coal-fired generation VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #26
trump's oil Cha Feb 2018 #21
Hope the EU means what they say triron Feb 2018 #22
Maybe EU will decide worker protection and healthcare are required Fresh_Start Feb 2018 #25
Boom! Well done EU flamingdem Feb 2018 #27
+1000 triron Feb 2018 #32
your move, don. spanone Feb 2018 #31
This should be BIG news triron Feb 2018 #33
knr triron Feb 2018 #34

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Make America Great Again
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:18 PM
Feb 2018

Boy, who knew that trade with the EU was holding back the great and powerful United States of America? Another problem solved, another triumph for President Donald J. Trump!

So much winning.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,414 posts)
15. Make America Special Again
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:59 PM
Feb 2018

Alone is right:
The U.S. is the only country to withdraw.

Meanwhile, 174 of 197 signatories have ratified the agreement.

Gee, thanks MASA cheetolini.

We can has impeach now bigly yuuge?

femmedem

(8,207 posts)
7. Good for them because there should be penalties for not ratifying the Paris Accord.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:59 PM
Feb 2018

Everything, literally everything, depends on our keeping carbon emissions low enough so that our planet remains habitable.

How I wish that we hadn't become such a rogue, dangerous nation.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. This is one of the reasons being involved is so important.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:13 PM
Feb 2018

These agreements force minimum standards. I was all for the TPP if a few more worker protections were put in place.

Stardust1

(123 posts)
10. Maybe
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:15 PM
Feb 2018

Maybe the reason why extremist groups like Brexit and TrDump followers hate the EU is because they actually have morals and care about the future of this planet instead of making a quick buck.

sheshe2

(83,898 posts)
11. Climate denier Don just shut America down.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:19 PM
Feb 2018
That assertion means that any country that fails to ratify the Paris agreement — a landmark accord that was signed by virtually every country in the world in an effort to prevent global temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees Celsius this century — will be shut out of new trade deals.


He has now made us a pariah on the worlds stage.

Mosby

(16,350 posts)
13. the paris agreement is a joke
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:41 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Wed Feb 7, 2018, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)

It lets the world top polluters, China and India to set their own goals, all but ignoring the coal businesses in those countries as well as their business partners elsewhere.

Want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions? Tell China and India to stop building coal fired plants. But that will never happen.



bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
16. Laughable Koch affiliated Institute for energy research.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 10:34 PM
Feb 2018

Watts Up With That? Is a blog promoting climate change denial

Mosby

(16,350 posts)
23. the links I used might be total crap
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018

But the basic facts I outlined cannot be disputed.

The truth is climate change is happening, regardless what the US does or doesn't do.

You know China isn't just the biggest polluter of greenhouse gases, they are the largest producer of all types of pollution, like carbon monoxide and sulfites. That's why kids in China are showing respiratory illnesses as young as three years old. The Paris agreement changes nothing.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. My sources are crap but my premise is sound?
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 02:06 PM
Feb 2018

My sources are crap but my premise is sound? That may be the second most absurd logical fallacy I've read this week.

A new form of fake logic you recently invented, no doubt. As long as it validates your narrative, no doubt you''re cool with it.

Mosby

(16,350 posts)
30. you havent exactly presented evidence to the contrary
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 05:51 PM
Feb 2018

I'm not presenting a narrative, just basic facts.

The Paris agreement allows countries to select their own emission reduction goals, and the countries I mentioned are taking advantage of that fact. None of the reductions will slow climate change.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
18. We can hope that sooner rather than later they'll catch on to the fact
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 10:40 PM
Feb 2018

that the hideous pollution they are suffering under can be eliminated. Hell, London had killer fogs (what they were actually called, and I vaguely remember them being in the news) in the 1950's because of coal emissions. They got their own clean air act and long since got rid of them.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. As long as we're all joking around
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 10:42 PM
Feb 2018

The Institute for Energy Research, founded and run by a former Enron executive, is pretty goddam funny place to go for an unbiased look at energy, funded as it has been by ExxonMobil and the American Petroleum Institute (their spokeswomen are just so pretty, while selling death and environmental destruction).

Mosby

(16,350 posts)
24. that may very well be true
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 12:26 AM
Feb 2018

I just looked for some links.

It doesn't change the fact that China and India are building hundreds and hundreds of coal fired power plants, all while participating in the Paris agreement.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
20. Everyone sets their own goals
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

For decades, the reason we could not get an agreement with everyone was that some wanted a one size fits all commitment. The average amount of energy used PER PERSON is less for countris like China and India. They resented that it was not considered that they created less of the proplem.

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
26. China has a moratorium on new coal-fired generation
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:46 AM
Feb 2018

They are rapidly installing solar and wind generation plants. And they'll be able to grow renewable energy production faster than the US can. India also has initiatives to rapidly grow renewable energy production.

Cha

(297,652 posts)
21. trump's oil
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 10:53 PM
Feb 2018

donors don't want alternative energy to save the Planet.. so the Russian mole doesn't want to piss them off.

Besides President Obama made the deal for our Country.. and I hear it took 2 yearsish.. and then some on hear blew it off as no big deal.

But it was a damn start.

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