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genxlib

(5,528 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:49 PM Feb 2018

Alternate thinking on the MLK/Dodge advertisement

Yes, it was terrible. It was wrong on so many levels and I agree with all of the criticism it has gotten today.

However...

Take a step back and consider something for a moment. A company selling he-man, all-American, tough-guy trucks wanted to align itself with MLK.

That really is remarkable. It was terrible but that has to mean something right?

Advertising has always been a rather cynical bell-weather about the state of culture. It represents a turning point for when mass market society is ready for concepts that were previously considered too radical for prime time. We have seen it in racial representation, mixed race families and same sex couples. The radical becomes mainstream.

I don't ever want to normalize MLK being used to sell shit. But the fact that the sellers think it is a good idea might just mean that the ideals espoused by MLK are more mainstream than ever. That can't be a bad thing.

I am a middle aged white guy who wasn't even alive during MLK's life so my opinion on this might be misguided

Nevertheless, I think there is a silver lining to that awful commercial.

I will take my spanking now if anyone feels compelled to disagree.




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hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
1. While not all repercussions from these kind of appropriations are equally bad, I can't condone
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:53 PM
Feb 2018

the precedence this sets. I have to wonder about the heirs (primarily the children) of MLK and what they were thinking in licensing this to Dodge.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
2. What you describe might have been what the ad intended, but
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:55 PM
Feb 2018

it was amazingly tone-deaf. While it's good to see that MLK has become a mainstream figure even among pickup-truck-buying white guys, using his speech as the voiceover for a truck ad was pretty cringe-inducing. It started out like an inspiring sort of PSA thing but among all the shots of noble-looking humans this pickup truck kept appearing, and when I figured out it was a truck ad all I could think was, WTF, that's tacky! Evidently a lot of people had the same reaction. Regardless of what they might have intended, it didn't work, and the obvious commercialization of MLK was what people noticed.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,362 posts)
3. No, Dodge does not want to align itself with MLK.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

Dodge wanted to soften MLK's image and legacy, and align itself with a bastardized version of what MLK had to say. The speech Dodge pulled the quote from literally goes on to slam advertisers and what they're peddling. Capitalism is a monster.

Now the presence of this instinct explains why we are so often taken by advertisers. You know, those gentlemen of massive verbal persuasion. And they have a way of saying things to you that kind of gets you into buying. In order to be a man of distinction, you must drink this whiskey. In order to make your neighbors envious, you must drive this type of car. (Make it plain) In order to be lovely to love you must wear this kind of lipstick or this kind of perfume. And you know, before you know it, you're just buying that stuff. (Yes) That's the way the advertisers do it.

(snip)

But very seriously, it goes through life; the drum major instinct is real. (Yes) And you know what else it causes to happen? It often causes us to live above our means. (Make it plain) It's nothing but the drum major instinct. Do you ever see people buy cars that they can't even begin to buy in terms of their income? (Amen) [laughter] You've seen people riding around in Cadillacs and Chryslers who don't earn enough to have a good T-Model Ford. (Make it plain) But it feeds a repressed ego.

You know, economists tell us that your automobile should not cost more than half of your annual income. So if you make an income of five thousand dollars, your car shouldn't cost more than about twenty-five hundred. That's just good economics. And if it's a family of two, and both members of the family make ten thousand dollars, they would have to make out with one car. That would be good economics, although it's often inconvenient. But so often, haven't you seen people making five thousand dollars a year and driving a car that costs six thousand? And they wonder why their ends never meet. [laughter] That's a fact.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
5. I hear you and agree
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

It certainly was not alignment with the real MLK message.

I guess my point is at a level removed from the specific message.

They obviously saw a widespread acceptance and respect for a public figure that they wanted to tap into. Considering what they were selling and who they were trying to sell it to, that is a little surprising to me.

It is not acceptable that they manipulated the message to fit their purposes. But that had to start with a concept that he would be a good branding image.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,362 posts)
6. Well, sure. Everybody loves MLK when all he says is that people will be judged on the content of
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:29 PM
Feb 2018

their character, which is why that's all you hear about from the powers that be -- including major brands -- on MLK day and during Black History Month. Giving Dodge a pass for including MLK when it twisted his message about capitalism and undermined his legacy on war plays right into capital's hands by accepting their watered-down version of who he was and what he said. Better to call them out for lying than to say, well, at least they used his name.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. My background is in market research. Rest assured this ad (and all SB ads) was tested, refined and
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:04 PM
Feb 2018

retested among its target audience, of millennial males. The process can take several months. To make it on to the super bowl, it must have tested well. IIRC, the theme of the ad was "greatness" and the idea of intrinsic vs. extrinsic greatness...they probably had other executions aimed at this theme without MLK, this must have tested best.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
11. Tag line for the ride...
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:20 PM
Feb 2018

"I have been to the mountain top!"

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
16. Here's a 2012 column I wrote on this very subject
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:15 PM
Feb 2018

Well, I guess it’s official. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is a full part of the American mainstream. He’s no longer marginalized or seen as the threat he was during his life.

I know the slain civil rights leader is part of the status quo now because I’ve seen an ad for a sale connected with his holiday. Solemn ceremonies don’t mean squat. It’s when they use your memory to lure customers that counts here. So you made freedom ring? Unless cash registers follow suit, you’re not a full-fledged American hero.

It’s in our national DNA. After all, international social commentator Alexis de Tocqueville noted it as early as 1835. “I know of no country, indeed, where the love of money has taken stronger hold on the affections of men,” he wrote in Democracy in America. Of course, he also warned that democracy without a strong ethical base was doomed, but we don’t need to read the fine print.

C'mon, does anyone really know when Presidents’ Day is close other than the red-white-and-blue circulars luring shoppers into hardware stores and garden centers? “Honest Abe walked a mile in the snow to give a man a penny but you’ll save more than pennies when you come to Toilets-R-Us.” Boy, there’s some dignity for the Ol’ Railsplitter, huh?

We say we value freedom and self-determination but it’s consumption that seems to rule the nation. It’s what leaders warned us not to forsake before the dust had even settled on the men digging out the World Trade Center a decade ago. Seek revenge on the evil-doers. Go shopping.

“Hey, Bob! Did you see this new Makita drill I picked up?”

“Is that the one with the new auto-clutch?”

“You bet. Nothing says ‘freedom’ like 450 pounds of torque.”

“That’ll show Osama!”

So, Dr. King, you have arrived. When I can hear that Dr. Scholl’s sole inserts will make me feel like I’m walking on clouds while I’m marching to Selma, we know you’re a part of the American cultural firmament.

I can hear the barking pitchmen now: “Martin Luther King had a dream. Now you’ll have sweet dreams too on one of our Slumber-E-Z mattresses.”

Though in this area of the country, I’m surprised every bakeshop in sight isn’t advertising Martin Luther Kingcakes, complete with plastic figurines buried inside, each with their own tradition.

“Mama, how come Charlotte gets to sit at the head of the table?”

“Well, Scott, you know since her piece of cake had Rosa Parks, she gets to pick her own seat.”

But then again, I’m still surprised any of Mobile’s MLK parades haven’t involved throws considering everything short of a funeral procession feels the necessity to fling trinkets and snacks. I’m sure the folks in Chattanooga could whip up some combo vanilla-chocolate moonpies for a day dedicated to racial harmony.

Considering the waning bounds of taste in contemporary society, my only surprise is that we haven’t seen sales on billy clubs and firehoses. I’m sure they could find a Kardashian to pose in the ads. Seems like there’s nothing those folks won’t do for attention.

A little much, you say? I don’t think so. After all, look what we’ve done with Christmas.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Dr. King’s legacy shaped to fit someone’s petty desires. It’s what we do with everyone worth remembering.

Although I have to say, the recent movement to turn the MLK holiday into something that reflects the nature of service, of dedicating your life to higher goals, is refreshing. I just wonder how a society that can be as narcissistic and materialistic as ours will embrace such.

That’s the course I wanted to see us take in the wake of 9-11, to prove to our enemies and detractors that we could rise above the images of wanton consumption they associate with our culture. Sadly, we did nothing of the sort.

Who better to associate with such altruism than a man who spent the final decade of his life in logical mortal fear that every day would be his last? To willingly make yourself a target, to engender and welcome the scorn of a segment of our society whose very existence hinged on hatred and violence is something most of us can’t begin to understand. That kind of bravery deserves notice.

King knew from the day he stepped out onto the plank of public resistance that it would end over the turbulent waters of violent death. But he walked anyway.

It hasn’t been for nothing. While it can often seem that old ways and mindsets hang on too stubbornly, progress has been made. Sure, we still have a lot of the same divisions. Sunday morning remains the most segregated time in America.

While neighborhoods can still seem generally segregated, they aren’t to the extreme they were when King was alive. Economics are as much a predicator now as ethnicity.

Romantic relationships between individuals of varied races don’t cause the outrageous consternation they did even when the King holiday was established in the 1980s. People I know who fled Mobile to shelter their “mixed-race” children from certain attitudes have been surprised by how much tensions have eased with time.

Maybe one day everyone will learn what anthropologists can tell us, that race is a social construct and something nearly negligible in the realm of genetics. Ethnicity is something shaped by behavior far more than it’s embedded in a double helix.

We have the benefit of seeing a lot of ground behind us, but this isn’t the time for self-congratulation. That hard road trod serves best as inspiration that the many miles remaining are possible to conquer.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,573 posts)
12. Based on their history for advertising, I would have to disagree with you.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:22 PM
Feb 2018

This is the same company that, three years ago, had the line "Ram salutes the heroes of the Hunger Games..." in correlation to their promotion of the final movie of that series.

Even if it's a different advertising company, they signed off on it. As they did for this one. They just don't really know what they're doing, I think.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
13. Wow, I don't remember that one
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:27 PM
Feb 2018

Nothing says brand loyalty like child murder for sport.

Alright, I accept your counter proposal that they just might be idiots.

It does raise the legitimate question whether the foreign owners (Fiat) are simply clueless about MLK

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,573 posts)
14. They very well might be.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:30 PM
Feb 2018

Here's the video (sorry for the Facebook link).

https://www.facebook.com/RamTrucks/videos/10152758380269364/?fallback=1

I do understand what you're saying, though. If they were trying to do that, they went about it the wrong way, perhaps.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
15. The New York Times editorial board didn't like it, either.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:02 PM
Feb 2018
The sermon was Dr. King’s “drum major instinct” speech, given in Atlanta in 1968 two months before his assassination. Everybody, he said, had this instinct — “a desire to be out front, a desire to lead the parade, a desire to be first.” But it had to be harnessed, he said as he went on to equate greatness with service to others. Ostensibly, the Ram commercial was an appeal for people to serve. But who’s kidding whom? The goal was to sell trucks, with Dr. King’s voice as pitchman.

The sheer crassness led to instant condemnation on social media, including speculation about what might be next — maybe trotting out James Baldwin to hawk “The Firestone Next Time”? Critics were hardly mollified by word that Ram had the blessing of Intellectual Properties Management, the licenser of Dr. King’s estate. The estate has not always been his staunchest guardian against posthumous commercialization.


More:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/opinion/martin-luther-king-ram-truck-superbowl.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion&action=click&contentCollection=opinion&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=sectionfront
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