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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:18 PM Feb 2018

Lady-Friendly Doritos Are the Latest in Unnecessary and Confusingly Gendered Products

Source: The Mary Sue

Can I just pour the broken and shameful deliciousness of the chip crumbs in my mouth in peace? The newest unnecessarily gendered product is the lady-Dorito, following the tradition of lady beer, razor boobs, lady pens, and other products that don’t understand how women can enjoy foods or operate items that men also use with their confusing and elusive lady hands. The “lady-friendly” Doritos chip will be smaller in size, “make less of a crunch noise,” and come in a packet “specifically designed to fit inside a handbag.”

Indra Nooyi of PepsiCo, which owns Doritos, said:

“When you eat out of a flex bag — one of our single-serve bags — especially as you watch a lot of the young guys eat the chips, they love their Doritos, and they lick their fingers with great glee, and when they reach the bottom of the bag they pour the little broken pieces into their mouth, because they don’t want to lose that taste of the flavour, and the broken chips in the bottom … Women would love to do the same, but they don’t. They don’t like to crunch too loudly in public. And they don’t lick their fingers generously and they don’t like to pour the little broken pieces and the flavour into their mouth.”


More: https://www.themarysue.com/lady-doritos/


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Lady-Friendly Doritos Are the Latest in Unnecessary and Confusingly Gendered Products (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2018 OP
Oh my god. OH MY GOD! Iggo Feb 2018 #1
Soft-bake Doritos? lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #33
real lunasun Feb 2018 #51
I had to google "razor boobs." CTyankee Feb 2018 #2
Yeah, I hadn't seen/read about that one before! demmiblue Feb 2018 #5
Bookmarking for home reading Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #10
Yeah, can't even imagine WTF lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #34
I will bet you a steak dinner they will cost more. TBA Feb 2018 #3
Dafuq we dont! nolabear Feb 2018 #4
Aside from the obvious WTF ness about this... logosoco Feb 2018 #6
Flavour MagickMuffin Feb 2018 #7
IKR? I find Doritos confusing and unnecessary! :) LisaM Feb 2018 #27
Its just smart marketing. procon Feb 2018 #8
Did you forget the sarcasm tag? SharonClark Feb 2018 #9
No, but maybe you should be more observant next time you go shopping, yeah? procon Feb 2018 #12
I wonder if its a demo for the Japanese market? cagefreesoylentgreen Feb 2018 #11
Now that's a clever way to get around cultural stigmas. procon Feb 2018 #16
I prefer In N Out cagefreesoylentgreen Feb 2018 #24
Love In N Out! Wish they made a giant sized burger, but I'd procon Feb 2018 #30
Women who want to look cool and sophisticated in public meadowlander Feb 2018 #13
Another... demmiblue Feb 2018 #21
What do you mean by "they"? meadowlander Feb 2018 #32
Clearly you attend different events than the rest of us avid Doritos munchers. procon Feb 2018 #22
? meadowlander Feb 2018 #35
Agreed Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #14
Yes RobinA Feb 2018 #42
I am only 5 foot 3, but I have never encountered that problem at the gym. cwydro Feb 2018 #49
you have got to be kidding obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #15
Please explain what's inaccurate in his post Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #17
You read what's common knowledge to anyone who goes grocery shopping. procon Feb 2018 #23
I refer to those mini-carrots Lindsay Feb 2018 #26
I don't think 'smart marketing' denies sexism in this case... LanternWaste Feb 2018 #18
Nope, branding the products as "sexism" is a stretch. procon Feb 2018 #25
I totally thought that your post was satire. demmiblue Feb 2018 #19
Please boycott this garbage flamingdem Feb 2018 #20
And no doubt it will be priced higher. I always buy mens shaving products because they are Tipperary Feb 2018 #28
I look forward to getting one of my best friends - a female Doritos fan - a bag of these TlalocW Feb 2018 #29
Less crunch? 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #31
If they crunch up that bag, could they then call them Lady Bits ? OnDoutside Feb 2018 #36
So dumb ColoradoBlue Feb 2018 #37
Because Generally RobinA Feb 2018 #44
I'll admit to owning gendered headphones crazycatlady Feb 2018 #38
I get those. They're the best. Iggo Feb 2018 #39
And it's not odd. It's dumb. Iggo Feb 2018 #40
I actually have two sets crazycatlady Feb 2018 #41
Hmm. Iggo Feb 2018 #43
I Dont See Why RobinA Feb 2018 #46
Honestly, it's about time they finally got around to making this product more female friendly. dawg Feb 2018 #45
I Think RobinA Feb 2018 #47
I know! dawg Feb 2018 #48
. GallopingGhost Feb 2018 #56
That's what boyfriends are for jmowreader Feb 2018 #57
Chrissy Teigen and Kathy Griffin: demmiblue Feb 2018 #50
#CrunchLouder lunasun Feb 2018 #53
Funny tweet, by a man Lunabell Feb 2018 #52
Read Why humans like junk food . Doritos lovers have the chips on the brain lunasun Feb 2018 #54
No, PepsiCo is not developing "Lady Doritos." Orangepeel Feb 2018 #55

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
4. Dafuq we dont!
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:38 PM
Feb 2018

I will cut you if you try to take my delicious little crumbs away. (BOY I wish we had some ladymojis around here!)

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
6. Aside from the obvious WTF ness about this...
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:49 PM
Feb 2018

just what are they doing to the chips to make them less crumby?

Chips in a bag are always going to have crumbs at the bottom.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Its just smart marketing.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:54 PM
Feb 2018

A lot of women buy smaller, bite foods like miniature cookies and candy bars, or we order a half dozen little sliders instead of one giant burger. All those reduced size products are neater to eat for women in a public setting when we are trying to preserve our good clothing, manicures and makeup, while we think looking cool and sophisticated. Image is important, and no one wants to be seen eating like a pig and chowing down on two-fisted, truck driver sized portions in public, like we do home.

Those convenient little bites are a lot less messy than the full sized portions, so we can pop a little bite sized Dorito in our mouth and talk without worrying about that dusting of orange nacho spice falling on our white silk blouse and coating our lips.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. No, but maybe you should be more observant next time you go shopping, yeah?
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:23 PM
Feb 2018

Seriously, its basic supply and demand marketing. Look around the supermarket shelves, they are stocked with a wide variety of smaller sized convenience foods. Obviously consumers want these products and are willing to buy them, and manufacturers are eager to take their money.

Its not just convenience that attracts customers to buy smaller sizes, people are always on the go and we eat on the run. Many people are trying to be more health conscious, so a splurge on that little bite sized Oreo or Snickers bar doesn't ruin their diet plan. If you have little kids, look at all the choices available from mini sized snacks, to single serve portions, and that means less mess for everyone.







procon

(15,805 posts)
16. Now that's a clever way to get around cultural stigmas.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:33 PM
Feb 2018

Here in So Cal there is a burger chain called "Fat Burger". No self respecting woman in her right mind would eat their because of the fat-shaming culture in the US. Actually, they make a pretty good, juicy hamburger, but the name is so off putting I won't go there on my own.

24. I prefer In N Out
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:52 PM
Feb 2018

But yeah we know what you mean about Fat Burger. On one hand, that name lets you know what you’re in for and on the other hand it lets you know what you’re in for.

In S. Nevada we have a small chain of vegan and organic cafes called “Skinny Fats.” I guess it implies great taste without guilt?

procon

(15,805 posts)
30. Love In N Out! Wish they made a giant sized burger, but I'd
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:40 PM
Feb 2018

have to haul the dang thing back home where I could unleash my inner man and chow down like a hungry lumberjack.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
13. Women who want to look cool and sophisticated in public
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:24 PM
Feb 2018

don't eat Doritos in the first place. They are marketing to people who won't buy their product anyway and pissing off people who do - girl geeks who snack mindlessly while gaming and like tilting out the crumbs because it shows they can keep up with the guys.

procon

(15,805 posts)
22. Clearly you attend different events than the rest of us avid Doritos munchers.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:46 PM
Feb 2018

No one is saying one size fits all. If you need the crumbs, eat the crumbs if that is what you think makes you more competitive.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
35. ?
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:30 PM
Feb 2018

I was joking BTW. If you want to serve Doritos at gala openings, be my guest. I've never seen anyone try to look "cool and sophisticated" by eating Doritos but YMMV.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
14. Agreed
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:30 PM
Feb 2018

A lot of the outrage about this will be from people that don't even realize they've been using "for her" products that just weren't labeled as that with all the bite-sized stuff and the like.

This is also something you see in other cultures, Japan in particular as I believe is mentioned elsehwere in one of these topics.

Different people, different needs. The branding of it is what will draw the ire. But I already know one of my daughters will be excited about this.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
42. Yes
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018

I don’t buy bite sized stuff but many is the time when I’ve used something and thought, Well, this is obviously designed for a man. Recently I have this problem at the gym. My current gym has machines where the weight increment when you increase the weight is too big a jump for a female. My last gym had machines where I had to contort myself to make adjustments because it was made for someone (men) with longer arms. And I’m 5’7”, so I’m not tiny.

I have no problem with gendered products, and generally consider it a plus. If I don’t like the stuff for girls I’ll buy the stuff I do like. If they guess wrong about what people want it won’t sell and that will be the end of that. And I friggin’ hate Doritos.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
49. I am only 5 foot 3, but I have never encountered that problem at the gym.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:25 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Tue Feb 6, 2018, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. You read what's common knowledge to anyone who goes grocery shopping.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:52 PM
Feb 2018

Really, you haven't noticed all the smaller, bite sized products that are filling the supermarket shelves these days? I'll bet you even think that those little packages of cute "baby carrots" were gown that way.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
26. I refer to those mini-carrots
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:08 PM
Feb 2018

as lathe-turned.

(But I'll buy 'em when they're on sale because they're a nice size for roasting without having to cut my own.)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. I don't think 'smart marketing' denies sexism in this case...
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:35 PM
Feb 2018

I don't think 'smart marketing' denies sexism in this case... no doubt, they both fit comfortably together in the same branding attempt.

procon

(15,805 posts)
25. Nope, branding the products as "sexism" is a stretch.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:02 PM
Feb 2018

It might be way down on someone's list, but just because a lot of women are concerned about their perceived public image, does not make them wrong. We each have our own character traits, and what is important to some women is not a fault just because you disagree with their choices.

Besides the convenience, or the image, there is also health and dietary choices -- for men and women -- where maybe a little splurge is enough to satisfy that craving. I'll day kids too, those tiny pieces mean less mess. So let's not get too hung up on false labels, yeah?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
28. And no doubt it will be priced higher. I always buy mens shaving products because they are
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:12 PM
Feb 2018

cheaper than women’s. Haircuts, dry cleaning - the list is long for how women’s prices are higher.

TlalocW

(15,386 posts)
29. I look forward to getting one of my best friends - a female Doritos fan - a bag of these
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:28 PM
Feb 2018

When are they available?

TlalocW

ColoradoBlue

(104 posts)
37. So dumb
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

As a woman, I have absolutely no qualms about crunching OR licking the nacho cheese flavor off my fingers. My husband, on the other hand, wouldn't be caught dead licking Doritos off his hands in public. Like the article says, there may actually be a market for some of these things but why make it gender-specific? So stupid.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
38. I'll admit to owning gendered headphones
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:10 PM
Feb 2018

While it sounds like an odd product to gender, I have found that earbuds made for women (Yurbuds brand) are amazing. They're the first pair I've had that fits me right and does not fall out while running. They're designed for smaller ears.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
39. I get those. They're the best.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:49 PM
Feb 2018

But I don't get them because I'm a woman, because I'm not.

I get them because they're the best.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
40. And it's not odd. It's dumb.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:56 PM
Feb 2018

The ones they label "Men's" and the ones they label "Women's" are two different types of earbuds.

The "Men's" has that stupid hook over the ear, and the "Women's" doesn't.

I prefer the ones without the hook.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
41. I actually have two sets
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

The ones with the hook over the ear are for working out, the others for everyday use.

I have the hook ones in women's. I doubt they'd make men's in pink.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
43. Hmm.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:06 PM
Feb 2018

The Target I shop at only has the hooked kind for men and the no-hook kind for women. (You can tell 'cause one box has the mean man face and the other box has the mean woman face....lol.)

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
46. I Dont See Why
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:18 PM
Feb 2018

it’s dumb. I just received a pair of trekking poles for Christmas that are designed for women. The grip is sized for smaller hands and they don’t expand as far as the non- female poles because they don’t have to work for someone who is 6’4” so they are lighter. Pre-gendered poles were fit for a man and females could just deal with it. Same as the ear buds.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
45. Honestly, it's about time they finally got around to making this product more female friendly.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

Before I open a bag of Doritos, I use my penis like a club to break the chips into manageable bite-size pieces. Women can't do that! I've always wondered how women managed to consume the product. Now, they won't have to worry.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
57. That's what boyfriends are for
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:51 PM
Feb 2018

"Sweetie, can you do me a little favor? Use your enormous symbol of masculine domination to break up these Doritos. I'd just snap them in half with my fingers like I used to, but the chauvinistic cabal that runs the snack food company says we girls are too dainty for hard labor like that."

(Boyfriend beats the whole bag into nacho cheese-flavored dust with one of his size-fifteen basketball shoes.)

"Uhh...thanks. Before you sit down, could you get me a spoon?"

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
50. Chrissy Teigen and Kathy Griffin:
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 01:44 PM
Feb 2018


The only quiet chips are stale chips. This Tuesday I’m voting #no on #ladychips




This may seem silly to some folks but at one point or another most women are told that they're too loud, take up too much space, that we're too much. If Doritos is actually doing this it'll just represent the BS women have had to deal with at home and at work. #CrunchLouder


lunasun

(21,646 posts)
54. Read Why humans like junk food . Doritos lovers have the chips on the brain
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

A scientist in America has broken down Doritos’ classic nacho cheese flavor to work out what makes the chips so irresistible.

When Doritos inventor Arch West died two years ago, his family reportedly scattered the chips into his grave. Such is the sanctity of nacho cheese.

If you find yourself addicted to the salty yellow chippies, don’t fear that you’ve got an overblown fondness for junk food.

Steven A. Witherly, a food scientist and the author of “Why Humans Like Junk Food,” has explained that nacho cheese Doritos are the archetype of addictive processed foods.

They’ve been engineered so you never feel like you’ve had enough. Here’s why:

The chips have the powerful savory flavor known as umami, and also what Mr. Witherly calls “long hang-time flavors” like garlic that create a lingering smell that stimulates memories.

crunch that

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
55. No, PepsiCo is not developing "Lady Doritos."
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:23 PM
Feb 2018

http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/pepsico-shoots-lady-doritos-speculation/312267/

Speculation about a gender-specific version of the mainstream snack brand spread after PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi, on a recent episode of the Freakonomics podcast, said the company was considering launching snacks specially designed for women.

"We are looking at it, and we're getting ready to launch a bunch of them soon," Nooyi said.
She never specifically stated that Doritos for women were coming. But news reports on the interview soon began carrying headlines of "Lady Doritos." And predictably, the story took on a life of its own in social media, compelling PepsiCo to shoot down the rumor.

"The reporting on a specific Doritos product for female consumers is inaccurate," a spokeswoman stated in an emailed Monday evening. "We already have Doritos for women–they're called Doritos, and they're enjoyed by millions of people every day. At the same time, we know needs and preferences continue to evolve and we're always looking for new ways to engage and delight our consumers."

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