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Source: The Mary Sue
Indra Nooyi of PepsiCo, which owns Doritos, said:
When you eat out of a flex bag one of our single-serve bags especially as you watch a lot of the young guys eat the chips, they love their Doritos, and they lick their fingers with great glee, and when they reach the bottom of the bag they pour the little broken pieces into their mouth, because they dont want to lose that taste of the flavour, and the broken chips in the bottom Women would love to do the same, but they dont. They dont like to crunch too loudly in public. And they dont lick their fingers generously and they dont like to pour the little broken pieces and the flavour into their mouth.
More: https://www.themarysue.com/lady-doritos/
Oy!
Iggo
(47,561 posts)How completely insulting!
Please tell me this isn't real.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ew. Are they pink?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,416 posts)I gotta see what this is.........
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)TBA
(825 posts)nolabear
(41,987 posts)I will cut you if you try to take my delicious little crumbs away. (BOY I wish we had some ladymojis around here!)
logosoco
(3,208 posts)just what are they doing to the chips to make them less crumby?
Chips in a bag are always going to have crumbs at the bottom.
MagickMuffin
(15,944 posts)You mean all those chemicals that are soooo full of flavour???
NO THX
LisaM
(27,815 posts)I much prefer plain corn chips.
procon
(15,805 posts)A lot of women buy smaller, bite foods like miniature cookies and candy bars, or we order a half dozen little sliders instead of one giant burger. All those reduced size products are neater to eat for women in a public setting when we are trying to preserve our good clothing, manicures and makeup, while we think looking cool and sophisticated. Image is important, and no one wants to be seen eating like a pig and chowing down on two-fisted, truck driver sized portions in public, like we do home.
Those convenient little bites are a lot less messy than the full sized portions, so we can pop a little bite sized Dorito in our mouth and talk without worrying about that dusting of orange nacho spice falling on our white silk blouse and coating our lips.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Seriously, its basic supply and demand marketing. Look around the supermarket shelves, they are stocked with a wide variety of smaller sized convenience foods. Obviously consumers want these products and are willing to buy them, and manufacturers are eager to take their money.
Its not just convenience that attracts customers to buy smaller sizes, people are always on the go and we eat on the run. Many people are trying to be more health conscious, so a splurge on that little bite sized Oreo or Snickers bar doesn't ruin their diet plan. If you have little kids, look at all the choices available from mini sized snacks, to single serve portions, and that means less mess for everyone.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)For example, check out this link: https://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/a-japanese-burger-chain-made-face-masks-so-women-can-eat-bur?utm_term=.ex11nB5vK#.sdLmpr4R1
procon
(15,805 posts)Here in So Cal there is a burger chain called "Fat Burger". No self respecting woman in her right mind would eat their because of the fat-shaming culture in the US. Actually, they make a pretty good, juicy hamburger, but the name is so off putting I won't go there on my own.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)But yeah we know what you mean about Fat Burger. On one hand, that name lets you know what youre in for and on the other hand it lets you know what youre in for.
In S. Nevada we have a small chain of vegan and organic cafes called Skinny Fats. I guess it implies great taste without guilt?
procon
(15,805 posts)have to haul the dang thing back home where I could unleash my inner man and chow down like a hungry lumberjack.
meadowlander
(4,399 posts)don't eat Doritos in the first place. They are marketing to people who won't buy their product anyway and pissing off people who do - girl geeks who snack mindlessly while gaming and like tilting out the crumbs because it shows they can keep up with the guys.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Lol... out of the woodwork they come.
meadowlander
(4,399 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)No one is saying one size fits all. If you need the crumbs, eat the crumbs if that is what you think makes you more competitive.
I was joking BTW. If you want to serve Doritos at gala openings, be my guest. I've never seen anyone try to look "cool and sophisticated" by eating Doritos but YMMV.
A lot of the outrage about this will be from people that don't even realize they've been using "for her" products that just weren't labeled as that with all the bite-sized stuff and the like.
This is also something you see in other cultures, Japan in particular as I believe is mentioned elsehwere in one of these topics.
Different people, different needs. The branding of it is what will draw the ire. But I already know one of my daughters will be excited about this.
I dont buy bite sized stuff but many is the time when Ive used something and thought, Well, this is obviously designed for a man. Recently I have this problem at the gym. My current gym has machines where the weight increment when you increase the weight is too big a jump for a female. My last gym had machines where I had to contort myself to make adjustments because it was made for someone (men) with longer arms. And Im 57, so Im not tiny.
I have no problem with gendered products, and generally consider it a plus. If I dont like the stuff for girls Ill buy the stuff I do like. If they guess wrong about what people want it wont sell and that will be the end of that. And I friggin hate Doritos.
cwydro
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obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)wtf did i just read
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Really, you haven't noticed all the smaller, bite sized products that are filling the supermarket shelves these days? I'll bet you even think that those little packages of cute "baby carrots" were gown that way.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)as lathe-turned.
(But I'll buy 'em when they're on sale because they're a nice size for roasting without having to cut my own.)
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I don't think 'smart marketing' denies sexism in this case... no doubt, they both fit comfortably together in the same branding attempt.
procon
(15,805 posts)It might be way down on someone's list, but just because a lot of women are concerned about their perceived public image, does not make them wrong. We each have our own character traits, and what is important to some women is not a fault just because you disagree with their choices.
Besides the convenience, or the image, there is also health and dietary choices -- for men and women -- where maybe a little splurge is enough to satisfy that craving. I'll day kids too, those tiny pieces mean less mess. So let's not get too hung up on false labels, yeah?
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Holy shite!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Thanks
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)cheaper than womens. Haircuts, dry cleaning - the list is long for how womens prices are higher.
TlalocW
(15,386 posts)When are they available?
TlalocW
3catwoman3
(24,013 posts)Dorito flavored gummies can't be far behind.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)ColoradoBlue
(104 posts)As a woman, I have absolutely no qualms about crunching OR licking the nacho cheese flavor off my fingers. My husband, on the other hand, wouldn't be caught dead licking Doritos off his hands in public. Like the article says, there may actually be a market for some of these things but why make it gender-specific? So stupid.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)if its not gender specific its targeted to men.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)While it sounds like an odd product to gender, I have found that earbuds made for women (Yurbuds brand) are amazing. They're the first pair I've had that fits me right and does not fall out while running. They're designed for smaller ears.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)But I don't get them because I'm a woman, because I'm not.
I get them because they're the best.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)The ones they label "Men's" and the ones they label "Women's" are two different types of earbuds.
The "Men's" has that stupid hook over the ear, and the "Women's" doesn't.
I prefer the ones without the hook.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)The ones with the hook over the ear are for working out, the others for everyday use.
I have the hook ones in women's. I doubt they'd make men's in pink.
The Target I shop at only has the hooked kind for men and the no-hook kind for women. (You can tell 'cause one box has the mean man face and the other box has the mean woman face....lol.)
RobinA
(9,894 posts)its dumb. I just received a pair of trekking poles for Christmas that are designed for women. The grip is sized for smaller hands and they dont expand as far as the non- female poles because they dont have to work for someone who is 64 so they are lighter. Pre-gendered poles were fit for a man and females could just deal with it. Same as the ear buds.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Before I open a bag of Doritos, I use my penis like a club to break the chips into manageable bite-size pieces. Women can't do that! I've always wondered how women managed to consume the product. Now, they won't have to worry.
youve hit on the exact reason I hate Doritos!
It just isn't fair.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)"Sweetie, can you do me a little favor? Use your enormous symbol of masculine domination to break up these Doritos. I'd just snap them in half with my fingers like I used to, but the chauvinistic cabal that runs the snack food company says we girls are too dainty for hard labor like that."
(Boyfriend beats the whole bag into nacho cheese-flavored dust with one of his size-fifteen basketball shoes.)
"Uhh...thanks. Before you sit down, could you get me a spoon?"
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Link to tweet
Link to tweet
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Lunabell
(6,089 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)A scientist in America has broken down Doritos classic nacho cheese flavor to work out what makes the chips so irresistible.
When Doritos inventor Arch West died two years ago, his family reportedly scattered the chips into his grave. Such is the sanctity of nacho cheese.
If you find yourself addicted to the salty yellow chippies, dont fear that youve got an overblown fondness for junk food.
Steven A. Witherly, a food scientist and the author of Why Humans Like Junk Food, has explained that nacho cheese Doritos are the archetype of addictive processed foods.
Theyve been engineered so you never feel like youve had enough. Heres why:
The chips have the powerful savory flavor known as umami, and also what Mr. Witherly calls long hang-time flavors like garlic that create a lingering smell that stimulates memories.
crunch that
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/pepsico-shoots-lady-doritos-speculation/312267/
Speculation about a gender-specific version of the mainstream snack brand spread after PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi, on a recent episode of the Freakonomics podcast, said the company was considering launching snacks specially designed for women.
"We are looking at it, and we're getting ready to launch a bunch of them soon," Nooyi said.
She never specifically stated that Doritos for women were coming. But news reports on the interview soon began carrying headlines of "Lady Doritos." And predictably, the story took on a life of its own in social media, compelling PepsiCo to shoot down the rumor.
"The reporting on a specific Doritos product for female consumers is inaccurate," a spokeswoman stated in an emailed Monday evening. "We already have Doritos for womenthey're called Doritos, and they're enjoyed by millions of people every day. At the same time, we know needs and preferences continue to evolve and we're always looking for new ways to engage and delight our consumers."