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Ohiogal

(32,015 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:57 AM Feb 2018

Desperate for health insurance?

How about a network that offers coverage

that is unregulated

can mandate your life style

can pick and choose who it covers

and doesn't even guarantee a payout?

Oh, yeah, and takes your money.

Welcome to Christian Health Ministries.

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"Why Desperate Families Are Getting Religion on Health Coverage
Health sharing ministries aren’t actually insurance. But for many people, the plans are more affordable than Obamacare, and they're growing fast."

By PAUL DEMKO and RENUKA RAYASAM February 04, 2018 from Politico

When Erica Jackson and her husband decided she would quit her job as a nurse and stay at home with their three kids, they knew they couldn’t afford insurance on the individual market. The family of five, who live in Wichita Falls, Texas, near the Oklahoma border, could already barely afford Jackson’s employer coverage, which cost $900 per month for a plan with a $12,000 deductible.

So Jackson reached out to her insurance broker for alternatives to exchange plans, and he suggested that she and her family would be a good fit for Medi-Share, a nonprofit insurance alternative based in Florida in which members share each other’s health care costs. There was a catch, though. The plan was run by a nonprofit religious ministry.

Because of her experience working in a doctor’s office, Jackson was initially skeptical of the faith-based plans—they aren’t really insurance, and there’s no guarantee they’ll cover medical bills. But as she learned more about the plan, which requires that members don’t smoke or use drugs and doesn’t cover injuries that result from behaviors considered immoral, such as drunk driving, the more she felt convinced that the plan was right for her family.

“The information that they make you go through, such as the beliefs, it was very reassuring,” said the 27-year-old.

Ultimately, Jackson and her husband, an insurance adjuster who works on contract, decided to take a chance on Medi-Share, paying $445 per month. They are also responsible for an additional $3,750 in annual out-of-pocket costs.

Health care sharing ministries have become a more entrenched part of the health care system than anyone could have possibly imagined eight years ago, when they were quietly exempted from Obamacare’s individual mandate penalty. The plans were an afterthought at the time, with only about 150,000 individuals enrolled in the faith-based plans. The exemption was included by Senate Democrats as a seemingly innocuous way to insulate the bill from attacks by Christian conservatives.

In the ensuing eight years, however, enrollment in health care sharing ministries has skyrocketed, particularly in states in which the individual insurance market has been beset by spiraling premiums and dwindling competition. As more people look for cheaper alternatives to health insurance, they are stumbling on ministry plans to escape Obamacare’s requirements and state oversight, but still satisfy the law’s individual mandate which, despite its repeal in the recent tax overhaul, remains in effect until 2019. Independent figures aren’t available, but according to the nonprofit groups that offer the faith-based plans—most of which are explicitly Christian—they now have more than 1.1 million members. What was once a fringe idea, limited to devout Evangelicals and small Mennonite churches in more rural parts of the country, has found acceptance with a segment of the population for whom the government safety net is unavailable and the free market options are unaffordable.

Read more
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/obamacare-religion-health-care-216933

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Desperate for health insurance? (Original Post) Ohiogal Feb 2018 OP
Flying Spaghetti Monster Health where are you? AJT Feb 2018 #1
The dangerous thing is Ohiogal Feb 2018 #3
And this is the reason Evangelicals hate Medicaid NCDem777 Feb 2018 #2
Good point. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #4
Is there actually MichMary Feb 2018 #5
This quote implies a belief test NCDem777 Feb 2018 #7
Another of the Many Downsides of a For-Profit Health Care System dlk Feb 2018 #6

Ohiogal

(32,015 posts)
3. The dangerous thing is
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:05 AM
Feb 2018

that I could just envision Pious Paul Ryan and his Republican partners in crime drooling all over a plan like this for the "masses".

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
2. And this is the reason Evangelicals hate Medicaid
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:04 AM
Feb 2018

Medicaid doesn't mandate religious tests. Take away Medicaid and they can hold out a carrot to the desperate.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
5. Is there actually
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:38 AM
Feb 2018

a "religious test," as in, you must believe xyz? Or is it just a test of behaviors?

Many, many years ago we had a car insurance policy that had some restrictions, like, if you had an accident while driving drunk they wouldn't pay your expenses. (The liability would still be in effect.) The result was that the costs were significantly lower, and they could promise that if you made no claims within a certain number of years that they would refund half your first year's premium, and continue on in this way. (We ended up moving out of state before the time limit, so never got to collect.)

So many health problems are related to preventable causes, like smoking. The government attempts to limit smoking by (heavily) taxing cigarettes. In the meantime, the rest of us are subsidizing smokers' medical treatment.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
7. This quote implies a belief test
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:04 PM
Feb 2018

“The information that they make you go through, such as the beliefs, it was very reassuring,” said the 27-year-old.

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