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Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:26 AM Feb 2018

2-year-old girl found frozen to death on porch

"The Ohio dispatcher tried to give CPR advice to a frantic mother who discovered her daughter unresponsive on their front porch.

Akron police say around 3:30 p.m. Friday afternoon, they were called to an apartment on Doty Drive.

According to the 911 call, the mother told the dispatcher she found her daughter "frozen" outside."

http://abc13.com/2-year-old-found-frozen-to-death-on-porch-/3032869/

I have no words that can adequately express what I feel.

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2-year-old girl found frozen to death on porch (Original Post) Kaleva Feb 2018 OP
Omigod. How could she not know her child was outside? And frozen besides. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2018 #1
Fuck. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2018 #2
seems like the mother should be charged with neglect JI7 Feb 2018 #3
Damn right she should! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2018 #5
Agree. The report said a neighbor said she has taken the little one home a few times. EllieBC Feb 2018 #9
OH MY GOD DesertRat Feb 2018 #4
My toddler got away from me a couple of times. They're fast, and clever. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #6
But for long enough to FREEZE? EllieBC Feb 2018 #8
We panicked until we found her. It's a horrible feeling. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #10
That would depend on how cold it was. Maybe the parent thought the toddler was napping? pnwmom Feb 2018 #12
My toddler climbed out a window during a nap. Sedona Feb 2018 #18
but in the case of the OP it was a common thing that happened JI7 Feb 2018 #22
Make7 Feb 2018 #7
Poor little one MustLoveBeagles Feb 2018 #11
FWIW, she wasn't literally frozen to death. She apparently died of hypothermia pnwmom Feb 2018 #13
A close friends disabled son MFM008 Feb 2018 #14
I have a friend who was visiting another family with her two year old. pnwmom Feb 2018 #25
I knew a nurse, who's toddler escaped and drowned in a neighbor's pool LeftInTX Feb 2018 #29
The County of Los Angeles requires if you have a built in swimming pool on your property that politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #15
My son started sleep walking when younger runtel Feb 2018 #16
Yes, terrible things can happen even to good parents. pnwmom Feb 2018 #17
I know the feeling, too, pnwmom.. Cha Feb 2018 #20
LOL. What a bright and brave little boy you had! pnwmom Feb 2018 #23
Oh yeah.. he's had a few scapes.. to put it Cha Feb 2018 #24
I made out to the barn once as a kid, around 9 yr old NickB79 Feb 2018 #28
apparently around that age, i got out & went three doors away to my grandparents duplex. pansypoo53219 Feb 2018 #19
Poor baby.. Cha Feb 2018 #21
Do not judge TBA Feb 2018 #26
The child in the OP was found on the front porch. LisaL Feb 2018 #31
my 22 month old burnbaby Feb 2018 #27
Some kids are escape artists. Codeine Feb 2018 #30
This child was found on the front porch. LisaL Feb 2018 #32
I almost froze to death on the front porch. boston bean Feb 2018 #33

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,648 posts)
1. Omigod. How could she not know her child was outside? And frozen besides.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:30 AM
Feb 2018

This is horrifying.

Poor little girl.

EllieBC

(3,018 posts)
9. Agree. The report said a neighbor said she has taken the little one home a few times.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:54 AM
Feb 2018

Who the hell let's a 2 year old outside by his or herself???

lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
6. My toddler got away from me a couple of times. They're fast, and clever.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:33 AM
Feb 2018

Took me years to stop having nightmares....

EllieBC

(3,018 posts)
8. But for long enough to FREEZE?
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:51 AM
Feb 2018

Many toddlers are fast but also loud. Pretty easy to notice one is missing.

lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
10. We panicked until we found her. It's a horrible feeling.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:54 AM
Feb 2018

Once in a store, once down the street. Freaks you right out.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
12. That would depend on how cold it was. Maybe the parent thought the toddler was napping?
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:09 AM
Feb 2018

In any case, other reports don't indicate she was literally frozen. She was not responsive.

http://nbc4i.com/2018/02/04/police-investigate-death-of-toddler-found-on-porch-in-ohio/

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
18. My toddler climbed out a window during a nap.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:39 AM
Feb 2018

Lucky for all of us, she immediately knocked on the front door to be let back in.

I forget what time of year it was but I remember it was a nice day with windows open.

JI7

(89,254 posts)
22. but in the case of the OP it was a common thing that happened
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:02 AM
Feb 2018

and it appears the mother did not "get away" as much as the mother just allowed them to go off by themselves and she didn't care to watch them.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. FWIW, she wasn't literally frozen to death. She apparently died of hypothermia
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:13 AM
Feb 2018

after being found outside, unresponsive, in below-freezing temperatures.

https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/local/2-year-old-found-dead-outside-in-akron

Akron police are investigating how a 2-year-old girl died after her mother found the toddler unresponsive in the cold Friday afternoon on a porch.

Police were called to the Willow Run Apartments in Ellet about 3:30 p.m. Friday after the mother discovered the girl, police said. Temperatures in Akron on Friday ranged between 12 and 19 degrees, according to Accu­Weather.

The toddler was taken to Akron Children’s Hospital where she later died.

Police are withholding the girl’s name until her family can be notified.

The Summit County Medical Examiner’s Office will conduct an autopsy to determine how the child died.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
14. A close friends disabled son
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:37 AM
Feb 2018

unlocked and crawled out his first floor window and got out with no pants on at age 3. It was summer.
Don't assume every parent is neglectful or doors weren't locked.
I was living there at the time to.
Her son slipped past 2 adults and 2 other siblings to get out.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
25. I have a friend who was visiting another family with her two year old.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:56 AM
Feb 2018

Suddenly they realized he was missing -- and it turned out he had escaped the house, and was found floating under the pool cover.

Alive! (The very cold water had been protective.) But the mother practically had a heart attack.

LeftInTX

(25,415 posts)
29. I knew a nurse, who's toddler escaped and drowned in a neighbor's pool
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:10 AM
Feb 2018

He was probably too young to be diagnosed with ADHD or a similar syndrome. (This was in the 80s)
The kid was constantly running off.
She was a good parent.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
15. The County of Los Angeles requires if you have a built in swimming pool on your property that
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:16 AM
Feb 2018

it be 1) fenced in; and 2) if you have minor children any door leading into your backyard have an alarm on that door to which, anytime it is opened it beeps continuously and says, "Warning, your back door is opened." It continues beeping and repeating the warning until you either close the door or turn off the alarm at the door. It's against the law to deactivate a warning alarm after the property was inspected and there are children in the home. Obviously, the county inspector doesn't regularly come around to check that yours is operating as initially intended, but if a child drowns in that pool as a result of their gaining access to the gated backyard and the alarm had been deactivated, you can be criminally charged with negligence. These types of alarms are available to anyone probably from a Pool Supply Store. If anyone has a small child who is known to wander outdoors alone, I would advise them that this type of safeguard exists to spare you the pain of your child wandering off unknowingly and/or becoming the victim of foul play.

runtel

(25 posts)
16. My son started sleep walking when younger
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:08 AM
Feb 2018

a neighbor called me at 3am. We had to buy key opening locks for inside our front and back door (which wasn't very safe either). He never did think to go out a window. He didn't bother anyone, just strolled around the yard. He just finally stopped after about a year.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
17. Yes, terrible things can happen even to good parents.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:34 AM
Feb 2018

I remember the discussion around here when a child slipped under a fence and got into a cage at the zoo. Many people like to think it could never happen to them.

I also had a 4 year old son who slipped out of the house when we were both napping (I had a baby, too.) Nothing bad happened, but it was sure scary thinking about the possibilities.

Welcome to DU, runtel!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
20. I know the feeling, too, pnwmom..
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:00 AM
Feb 2018

Back in the '70s in Gainesville, Fla.. our son was 5, taking his nap, and I was outside hanging clothes.

I went upstairs and found him missing and I panicked, called the police.

I got a call that he had gone down to the restaurant about a block away. where we ate sometimes. and wanted to order.

Said we could come pick him up.

That kid! I was so overwhelming Relieved!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
23. LOL. What a bright and brave little boy you had!
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:13 AM
Feb 2018

Those kinds of kids can be the hardest to keep alive till they're adults!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
24. Oh yeah.. he's had a few scapes.. to put it
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 06:29 AM
Feb 2018

mildly.. and always hungry!

He grew to be a surfer in California, Kauai, Indonesia, Australia.. etc etc

Often heard him say "Danger is my business". eek!

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
28. I made out to the barn once as a kid, around 9 yr old
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:38 AM
Feb 2018

In October, in Minnesota. It's already freezing at night by then.

The next day my parents found the front door cracked and mud n my feet; I'd decided to come back in for some reason.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
19. apparently around that age, i got out & went three doors away to my grandparents duplex.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:57 AM
Feb 2018

not winter i bet.

TBA

(825 posts)
26. Do not judge
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:07 AM
Feb 2018

My niece was an escape artist. One time she was found several blocks away in nothing but her diaper.

She thought it was hilarious. He mom had to watch her constantly.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
31. The child in the OP was found on the front porch.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:34 AM
Feb 2018

If she escaped, it doesn't appear she went far. This was in the middle of the day. The neighbor claims she saw children outside alone before. All the info is in the article.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
27. my 22 month old
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:21 AM
Feb 2018

grandson walked out of the door went across the street. i guess he was heading for the park which was a familiar walk for him, no shoes on my son didn't even know he was gone. Fortunately some guy picked him up and brought him home.

what could have happened didn't, thank God

the scare is still with my son and his wife. they now of course lock their doors

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. Some kids are escape artists.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:29 AM
Feb 2018

I was forever slipping over the top of my crib and getting outside, at night or early in the morning before my mom woke up. I’d move stuff to the door to work the locks, which apparently gave me no issue even at a young age. Eventually mom put inside deadbolts up and trapped my ass.

Luckily I had two advantages in my wanderings that this poor little one didn’t have; I lived in warm Southern California, and we had a standard (big size) poodle who patiently and dutifully followed me around wherever I went.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
32. This child was found on the front porch.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:36 AM
Feb 2018

So if she "escaped" she certainly didn't go far. This was also the middle of the day.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
33. I almost froze to death on the front porch.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:59 AM
Feb 2018

My mother was working and my father didn’t know I had slipped out locking the door behind myself.

I remember freezing and could not move. My father finally realized and brought me inside and he was scared shitless.

Like it happened yesterday.

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