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applegrove

(118,711 posts)
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 08:37 PM Feb 2018

Neo-Nazi Poised to Grab GOP Nomination In Illinois

https://politicalwire.com/2018/02/04/holocaust-denier-poised-grab-gop-nomination-illinois/

"SNIP..........

“Arthur Jones (R) — an outspoken Holocaust denier, activist anti-Semite and white supremacist — is poised to become the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat representing parts of Chicago and nearby suburbs,” the Chicago Sun Times reports.

Said Jones: “Well first of all, I’m running for Congress not the chancellor of Germany. All right. To me the Holocaust is what I said it is: It’s an international extortion racket.”

Jones is the only one on the Republican ballot for the March 20 primary.


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Neo-Nazi Poised to Grab GOP Nomination In Illinois (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2018 OP
He should begin working on quartz007 Feb 2018 #1
I had my suspicions and I looked at the map. A lot of Chicago police officers live in that area mucifer Feb 2018 #2
That's unfair. No law abiding person likes nazis. applegrove Feb 2018 #3
Philadelphia Police Investigate Officer Photographed With Tattoo Resembling Nazi Emblem marble falls Feb 2018 #4
Bad apples. You could mention that a few bad apples were found. applegrove Feb 2018 #5
A few. That's why the FBI is investigating nation wide. I can dig up a whole baxket of bad apples... marble falls Feb 2018 #6
I'm not going to go there. Nazis are too depressing. applegrove Feb 2018 #8
Nazis are depressing. They're dangerous. And they are everywhere. Trump has given them permission. marble falls Feb 2018 #9
If we want to end white supremacism... Initech Feb 2018 #19
Abolutely on the money vet them all and retrain them all and rewrite the laws that allow them... marble falls Feb 2018 #20
In 2006, the FBI issued a warning that infiltration by groups such as the KKK into law enforcement.. marble falls Feb 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #10
More will come. Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #11
I did not know anyone in actual power thought that way. That is why I did the OP. applegrove Feb 2018 #12
There are more out there than you might believe. Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #13
We have hate speech laws in canada so the police and government lawyers applegrove Feb 2018 #15
He should fit right in with the current administration Takket Feb 2018 #14
Here's the photo of the candidate..... marble falls Feb 2018 #16
He's Going To Get Slaughtered ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #17
Its the only bright side of it. But the GOP should run a sacrificial candidate if only to .... marble falls Feb 2018 #22
Yeah, That Does Seem The Right Thing To Do ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #23
Clearly overqualified to run on the GOP ticket. Orrex Feb 2018 #18
I hate Illinois Nazis Arazi Feb 2018 #21
He's a Nazi. Ain't no "neo" about it. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2018 #24

mucifer

(23,554 posts)
2. I had my suspicions and I looked at the map. A lot of Chicago police officers live in that area
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 08:46 PM
Feb 2018

It doesn't surprise me this nazi is popular there.

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
4. Philadelphia Police Investigate Officer Photographed With Tattoo Resembling Nazi Emblem
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 09:00 PM
Feb 2018
http://abcnews.go.com/US/philadelphia-police-investigate-officer-photographed-tattoo-resembling-nazi/story?id=41823227

Interim Colbert police chief to resign amid report of connection to neo-Nazi websites

By Paighten Harkins Tulsa World Aug 27, 2017 11

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/interim-colbert-police-chief-to-resign-amid-report-of-connection/article_98d1bd9e-9ad8-553e-84cd-8d63d360e0c8.html

FBI investigates White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Theres a lot more Nazis in law enforcement that anyone wants to believe.

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
6. A few. That's why the FBI is investigating nation wide. I can dig up a whole baxket of bad apples...
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018

Whats your proof its only a few bad apples? I'll read your link if you just read the FBI link.

Initech

(100,085 posts)
19. If we want to end white supremacism...
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:41 AM
Feb 2018

We need to start by getting these assholes out of law enforcement. Giving a Nazi a gun and a license to shoot first and ask questions later, and many of these shootings go unpunished, what could go wrong?

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
20. Abolutely on the money vet them all and retrain them all and rewrite the laws that allow them...
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:49 AM
Feb 2018

to get away with murder - "I was afraid for my life" in the face of unarmed and complying suspects is no defense at all.

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
7. In 2006, the FBI issued a warning that infiltration by groups such as the KKK into law enforcement..
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 09:14 PM
Feb 2018

agencies could present a security risk.

https://www.snopes.com/fbi-warned-about-white-supremacists/

The FBI did issue a warning about the security risk presented by infiltration by groups like the KKK into law enforcement agencies.


ORIGIN

In 2015, a nearly 10-year-old FBI warning about white supremacists clandestinely joining police departments started circulating online when Samuel V. Jones, a former military police captain and professor at John Marshall Law School penned an opinion piece about it for The Grio. Jones’ article linked civil unrest over a spate of police shootings of unarmed black Americans with the subject of the report, suggesting a possible link between the two:

Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.

<snip>

While there hasn’t been any indication that an infiltration of police departments by white supremacists is directly linked to specific recent police shooting incidents, nor that any organized efforts to infiltrate law enforcement have been successful in recent years, by 2006 the issue had at least risen to the level of meriting the FBI’s attention.



https://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/
FBI's warning of white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement nearly forgotten
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"A Tale of Two Hoodies" (by Michael D'Antuono artandresponse.com)

Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.

In near prophetic fashion, after the FBI’s warning, white supremacy extremism in the U.S. increased, exponentially. From 2008 to 2014, the number of white supremacist groups, reportedly, grew from 149 to nearly a thousand, with no apparent abatement in their infiltration of law enforcement.

This year, alone, at least seven San Francisco law enforcement officers were suspended after an investigation revealed they exchanged numerous “White Power” communications laden with remarks about “lynching African-Americans and burning crosses.” Three reputed Klan members that served as correction officers were arrested for conspiring to murder a black inmate. At least four Fort Lauderdale police officers were fired after an investigation found that the officers fantasized about killing black suspects.

The United States doesn’t publicly track white supremacists, so the full range of their objectives remains murky. Although black and Jewish-Americans are believed to be the foremost targets of white supremacists, recent attacks in Nevada, Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas and North Carolina, demonstrate that other non-whites, and religious and social minorities, are also vulnerable. Perhaps more alarmingly, in the last several years alone, white supremacists have reportedly murdered law enforcement officers in Arkansas, Nevada and Wisconsin.

In fact, the FBI reports that of the 511 law enforcement officers killed during felony incidents from 2004 to 2013, white citizens killed the majority of them. Of the citizens stopped by law enforcement officers in New York City and Chicago, white citizens were more likely to be found with guns and drugs. Given the white supremacist penchant for violence, guns and drug trafficking, the findings may be an indication that their network is just as destructive and far-reaching as that of foreign terrorist groups.

The unfortunate consequence of today’s threat is that a law enforcement officer may be good or bad, a villain or hero; one exceptionally prone to exhibit malicious forms of racial hatred, or distinctively suited to protect the racially oppressed. But the paradox doesn’t end there.

The white supremacist threat brings to light a dark feature of the American experience that some believed extinct. It rouses ingrained notions of distrusts between police and communities of color while bringing to bear the vital interest citizens of good will share in the complete abolishment of race as a judgmental factor.

As the nation struggles to resolve the perplexities of police brutality, the white supremacist threat should inform all Americans that today’s civil discord is not borne out of a robust animosity towards law enforcement, most of whom are professional. Rather, it’s more representative of a centuries-old ideological clash, which has ignited in citizens of good will a desire to affirm notions of racial equality so that the moral ethos of American culture is a reality for all.

Samuel V. Jones is a former military police captain and currently a professor of law focusing on criminal law at The John Marshall Law School.

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)
11. More will come.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 09:57 PM
Feb 2018

Sadly, it will take more and more before some people wake the fuck up and realize this isn't just a problem for Jews.

applegrove

(118,711 posts)
12. I did not know anyone in actual power thought that way. That is why I did the OP.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 10:01 PM
Feb 2018

Thought it was an outlier. Fu**ers. I guess Trump is in power. And he thinks 'some are good people'.

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)
13. There are more out there than you might believe.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:28 AM
Feb 2018

Outright Holocaust denial is still fairly fringe, but it is moving closer and closer to the edges of mainstream, IMO. However, Holocaust minimalizing and/or revisionism are more and more popular. It hides behind a thin veneer mask of acceptable "intellectualism". It is that movement I fear more because it will inevitably lead to wider acceptance of denial.

applegrove

(118,711 posts)
15. We have hate speech laws in canada so the police and government lawyers
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:56 AM
Feb 2018

are always going after and prosecuting the worst offenders. You don't have such hate speech laws in the US.

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
16. Here's the photo of the candidate.....
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:24 AM
Feb 2018
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Images on Jones’ campaign website showed him speaking at KKK and neo-Nazi events, giving the Nazi salute and shredding the flag of Israel. He called the Confederate flag the symbol of “white pride,” “white resistance” and “white counterrevolution.” Jones also told the Sun-Times that the Holocaust was “an international extortion racket.”

Party leaders have disowned Jones.

“The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones,” Tim Schneider, chairman of the Illinois Republican Party, told the Sun-Times. “We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”

Jones mocked the party’s attempts to stop him.

“Well, it’s absolutely the best opportunity in my entire political career,” he told the Chicago Tribune. “Every time I’ve run it’s been against a Republican who follows this politically correct nonsense. This time they screwed up.”

The primary is March 20.

ProfessorGAC

(65,085 posts)
17. He's Going To Get Slaughtered
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:47 AM
Feb 2018

Lapinski won that seat unopposed in 2016 and by more than 2:1 in 2014. The R's are running nobody against him because they know they can't win.

marble falls

(57,116 posts)
22. Its the only bright side of it. But the GOP should run a sacrificial candidate if only to ....
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:53 AM
Feb 2018

demonstrate a stand for decency. The GOP is such a big tent they allow themselves to provide a flag for a big basket of deplorables and downright monsters.

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