Are Republicans of Good Conscience Finally Fleeing Trump and the Republican Party?

[kennetha]

Listened to Trey Gowdy on Face the Nation. This is a guy whom I have always despised. The Benghazi hearings were a farce.

But actually felt a faint twinge of admiration for him for the first time ever as he explained why he is leaving politics. It turns out that even a hyper-partisan attack dog like him has his limits and that Trump is testing his limits.

This guy was a federal prosecutor and then a district attorney in South Carolina. At some level he still seems to actually believe in the justice system and in serving justice. When asked by the host whether he had "served justice" in his time in the House, he said something like "not as much as I did as a prosecutor. Politics is all about winning. But winning isn't the same as doing justice. And I don't want to live like that anymore." (or something like that.)

It gave me a glimmer of hope that lurking in the hearts of some critical mass of Republican there might just be the remnants of principle that can be appealed to. At some point, perhaps, enough of them will no longer be able to live with the degradation of politics to which their loyalty to Trump is subjecting them.

[bitterross]

1. Don't hold your breathe.

Ryan and McConnell are pretty good examples of how to sell one's soul for power.

[bearsfootball516]

2. I think Gowdy may be an outlier

There's little he could do to make me hate him more. Although I do think it's possible that after everything he's done, he does actually feel a little remorse about it, and this is his way of trying to make up for it.

[wasupaloopa]

3. Lots of republican spokes people on MSNBC each day who do not like

trump but none of them are calling for impeachment or anything else.

Each day they give a litany of how bad he is then give no remedy

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

13. YES THEY ARE!! WTH? What & WHO are you watching?

They do give remedy BUT they also say that UNTIL democrats FLIP the house, there'll be NO impeachment, even though according to Adam Schiff, he's encouraged to continue hammering away because they are afraid to openly tell the TRUTH about what's going on.

[lindysalsagal]

4. Not conscience: There's more money to be made privately, and they'll lose, anyway.

It's all about self-preservation. Scum.

[marylandblue]

5. I am somewhat hopeful, but also fearful

He is from a pretty red district. He is likely to be replaced by someone worse.

[kennetha]

6. that's a depressing thought.

[marylandblue]

8. I am usually more upbeat, but this week got to me.

[unblock]

7. Republicans of good conscience left the party a long time ago.

[kennetha]

10. So maybe the ones with nagging doubt

are finally starting to see the light.

Let's hope there are more of them to come.

[lkinwi]

9. Maybe he looked at Nunes and saw himself.

But I’m guessing this is some kind of self-serving thing rather than a sudden principled thing.

[kennetha]

11. Wouldn't that be a scary sight?

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

12. Republicans of Good Conscience?

What do those words mean? They make no sense... Gibberish.

[kennetha]

14. well ... there are a few...

maybe.... Flake... McCain...

I disagree with them vehemently.

But not every person with whom one disagrees is a person of bad conscience.

[LAS14]

20. Collins, Snow. Oh for the days...

... when the parties differed because of their ideas about taxes and the role of government.

[gibraltar72]

15. There is no room

for anyone of good conscience in the Republican party. The old party is dead as a door nail.

[MyOwnPeace]

16. It's what they DO.........

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not what they say!

EXAMPLE:

Senators Flake and McCain - seem to be the most "vocal" of the Republicans against Trump.
Yet, how did they vote for the taxes? How have they voted for judicial nominations?W

Still following the "party line."

How is that showing opposition?

We need DEMOCRATS in the House and Senate!

[kennetha]

19. They are Republicans, to be sure.

So they believe in Republican policies.

But that doesn't require them to go along with the utter debasement of politics.

[RandomAccess]

17. Yes, a few. But in Gowdy's case I think it's

at least partly (maybe mostly) self-reservation. He's no dummy. Once that memo was about to be released, he quit. He's a former prosecutor. He knows the legal liabilities that may be swirling for the House Intel Committee RepubliCON members.

His statement was Jan. 31.

[kairos12]

18. Nope. The Reich Wing bet the house on Drumpt. They won't fold.

[LAS14]

21. I had this weird conflicted reaction same as you. nt