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Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 01:20 PM Feb 2018

Nixon and Trump have one common trait. Both believe/believed that they can do anything,

and get away with it. For Trump it is his collusion with the Russians. For Nixon, collusion with North Vietnam. There is evidence that Nixon tried to cut a deal with North Vietnam before the 1968 election. He told North Vietnam that if it cut a deal with him as president, then he would do much better than Johnson who was at the time trying to negotiate with them. Undermining the President of the United States in that way is treason. Trump's collusion with Russia might also be called that.

What is important is the arrogance of both that they could do "anything", and get away with it. I believe that right now Trump believes he will get away with everything that he has done. No matter what Mueller or anyone says or does, he thinks he will get away with it. Same thinking as Nixon.

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Nixon and Trump have one common trait. Both believe/believed that they can do anything, (Original Post) Stuart G Feb 2018 OP
Trump is worse, Nixon knew he had limits marylandblue Feb 2018 #1
I believe that Trump will not get away with it. Stuart G Feb 2018 #2
I hope he won't, but fear he will marylandblue Feb 2018 #4
Paranoia rusty fender Feb 2018 #3
And Nixon never showed a shred of remorse PatSeg Feb 2018 #5
Nixon lived in a fundamentally different America than Trump does inwiththenew Feb 2018 #6
Back then republicans believed in the rule of law ollie10 Feb 2018 #7
Yes, there were many republicans who stood up and said Nixon broke the law. Stuart G Feb 2018 #8

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. Trump is worse, Nixon knew he had limits
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 01:27 PM
Feb 2018

And even worse than that, Trump may be right, he might get away with it.

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
2. I believe that Trump will not get away with it.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 01:31 PM
Feb 2018

Perhaps after Mueller indicts his family, and Trump pardons them, then he will resign. Yes, he will get away with pardoning the family, but he will have to leave afterwards. Most people think Trump will get away with it. I hope he doesn't, but as you say.."..he might get away with it." We will see what happens.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. I hope he won't, but fear he will
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:06 PM
Feb 2018

This is a dangerous time for country, and the danger won't go away after Trump is gone.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
5. And Nixon never showed a shred of remorse
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:14 PM
Feb 2018

"When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal."

I think Trump will be even worse, proclaiming himself a victim until the day he dies.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
6. Nixon lived in a fundamentally different America than Trump does
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:19 PM
Feb 2018

Nixon didn't have Fox, RW Radio, and RW social media figures marching in lock step to sew the seeds of doubt and create a alternative narrative. The effects of this shouldn't be underestimated.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
7. Back then republicans believed in the rule of law
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:26 PM
Feb 2018

So nixon was forced out.

Today, not so much.

Maybe one or two would give a critical tweet or two today....

But stand up to Trump?

Ain't gonna happen

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
8. Yes, there were many republicans who stood up and said Nixon broke the law.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

Doesn't look like there are any saying that now. And it seems clear that Trump has broken the law.
When Mueller's findings are made public, and indictments are made, we will see. But I doubt there will by any who attack Trump and company even then. I wonder if any of them (republicans) will call for Trumps resignation when his crowd is indicted.

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