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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMHO, the irrational anger of deplorables is mirrored in the Nunes memo reaction: Fury
I've been online at home all day, with the cold that's going around, drinking tea and sniffling.
So I went over to another message board that shall not be named and read pages of angry attacks from posters who claim all "lefties" are brain-damaged, and completely uninformed and unpatriotic". You probably know the type.
What surprised me was when someone posted McCain's objection to the release of the Nunes memo: In all the replies, it turns out these left-haters also hate Nixon, Reagan, Bush, McCain, and anyone else mentioned.
Basically, they just hate. They don't really make any good arguments, just blanket accusations, with nothing to support their insults. If they don't understand the rebuttals, they assassinate the writer or the source, be it a tv station, a paper, whatever.
Basically, except for trump, they don't have one positive thing to say about anyone, anywhere, on any topic.
Now, they're even attacking their own justice department, Trump's, own, and the FBI, a notoriously right-leaning institution.
So, just as is stated in the following WP article, dumpsters are at the point of tantruming. Irrational tantruming. And they don't care if they tear down their own government, or it's important agencies. No one is on their side: Not the FBI, not the republican owned house, senate, executive or scotus. Nothing is good enough. They have control of everything and all they can do is insult, belittle, accuse and lay waste to any attempt at running anything.
They got their tax cut, and took a hatchet to Obamacare, and still are furious. They're hauling aliens off planes and out of cars and deporting them. And still, they're furious and drooling.
I can no longer listen to democratic pleas to "include the other side" and "go high when they go low." Nothing will work with them. They even said on the site that it was great if Putin was helping trump end the democratic party. They'll sell the country out just to hurt democrats. The hatred is absolutely unfathomable.
I guess I was naive. I have always lived in blue states. We have some conservatives, but they're not like this: They aren't total anarchists.
I'm starting to see that drump was just the right jerk at the right time: drump was a lightningrod for deplorables. drump was inevitable.
While we're arguing tactics and the finer points of political strategy, they're setting the bedsheets on fire. You can't talk with them: There is no reasoning with them: Appealing to them with any kind of reason or purpose is pointless. They want putin running the world because he will destroy everything. They are committed to destruction, as deep and final as possible. They don't even care about themselves. It's total nihilism. It's inhuman. It's monstrous. It's twilight zone scary. It's the innmates burning down the town.
The gop cannot govern them. At some point, the gop will either give up, like so many who are resigning and retiring, or they'll surrender to the daily mindless slaughter of the gladiators. They'll ride the wave for a time and then make a quick exit to lobby the future gladiators for whatever baubles tumble out of their pockets.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/inside-the-fbi-anger-worry-work--and-fears-of-lasting-damage/2018/02/03/899a7442-086f-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fbi-1244pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c5a747cbe3b3
Inside the FBI: Anger, worry, work and fears of lasting damage
In the 109 years of the FBIs existence, it has repeatedly come under fire for abuses of power, privacy or civil rights. From Red Scares to recording and threatening to expose the private conduct of Martin Luther King Jr. to benefiting from bulk surveillance in the digital age, the FBI is accustomed to intense criticism.
What is so unusual about the current moment, say current and former law enforcement officials, is the source of the attacks.
The bureau is under fire not from those on the left but rather conservatives who have long been the agencys biggest supporters, as well as the president who handpicked the FBIs leader.
Bureau officials say the accusations in the document produced by House Republicans are inaccurate and more damaging in the long term corrode the agencys ability to remain independent and do its job. One law enforcement official summed it up bluntly: Theres a lot of anger. The irony is its a conservative-leaning organization, and its being trashed by conservatives. At first it was just perplexing. Now theres anger, because its not going away.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)People who have not succeeded in much in their lives. Consumed with resentment. Not equipped for the progressive future. Clinging to their religion and their guns. I'm sorry but it does fit.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)They're people who are bitter at the country because things haven't gone their way. Instead of working to make things better, they'd rather wallow in self pity and adopt a burn it all down mindset. If they can't be happy, then make everyone else as miserable as they are.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)A mild argument ensued.
Trump supporter: "He's white, and the economy is great".
They are free to expose themselves now, and they do. They no longer care.
I just turn and walk away from these people now, when I used to put them in their place. The are blinded by hate, and there is no possible combination of words that you can put together to make them change their minds.
The most I will do now is give them the squinty eyeball and say something like..."The fuck"????
The country will have a bad time for decades because of these people.
concreteblue
(626 posts)to communicate with them. I do. One of my bandmates and my brother are those guys. Any more, when they let out the cray cray, I look at them and say: "How many cans of Silver Metal Flake did you bag to get that to make sense?"
Different Drummer
(7,621 posts)yardwork
(61,652 posts)The worse Trump acts, the more they like him.
Trump reflects the infantile rage felt by many Americans who have consumed a steady diet of lies, misinformation, and fascist bigotry for 30 years.
Trump was indeed inevitable.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)That's it. There's no substance to it at all.
They don't care about anything. They are toddlers and frump makes them feel heard.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)The deplorables will be asked questions like "do you believe the memo" and "do you believe there is a conspiracy against drumpf"
when a GOOD reporter would ask them:
"What did you find most upsetting" or "where do you thin Rosenstein went wrong"?
Put them on the spot to actually regurgitate statements from the memo and i guarantee they will NOT be able to. They believed every word of it before they even read it. They are sheep, lemmings, being led around by the nose.
The deplorables are a lost cause. A group that would rather turn our entire nation over to Putin so long as it comes with freedom to hate.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The media behaves exactly in the way you describe - much to our detriment.
They approach Trump himself the same way.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)They have no idea what is in the memo, unlike some of us who read the whole 3 pages.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)He was alone with the memo for hours. Never read it.
Unable to govern.