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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:58 AM Feb 2018

House Dems should just release THEIR memo now.

There's no good reason to ever sweat the rules again while THIS crowd is in power. The rules aren't on the side of democracy or the people.

Waiting for GOP clearance to release their memo(clearance we know the GOP is never going to give) is the same thing as giving up.

It also normalizes the situation when there's no reason to normalize it.

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House Dems should just release THEIR memo now. (Original Post) Ken Burch Feb 2018 OP
Maybe, but why bother? thbobby Feb 2018 #1
Heavens no! Chest those cards! OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #5
+ struggle4progress Feb 2018 #8
I think not. Not enough to be gained. bitterross Feb 2018 #2
Yes, just keep the focus on the Nunes POS memo. mobeau69 Feb 2018 #3
Yes, totally agree OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #6
Schiff knew exactly what he was doing. IMO he faked putting up a fight, thereby lamp_shade Feb 2018 #13
It should have been released.. mvd Feb 2018 #4
Just to be clear to the readers here, it wasn't released because it's also classified. herding cats Feb 2018 #12
Thanks for pointing that out mvd Feb 2018 #15
Why let the GOP use the "classified" thing to keep us from telling our side of the thing? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #16
No reason to right now mercuryblues Feb 2018 #7
They should read it on the floor of the House/Senate. They have immunity Sophia4 Feb 2018 #9
That would work. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #17
They can't because it is classified and the committee didn't vote to release it anyway. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #10
Why? herding cats Feb 2018 #11
Next week is fine malaise Feb 2018 #14

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
1. Maybe, but why bother?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:04 AM
Feb 2018

It is such an obvious load of crap. Why bother? Fight when there is something worth fighting about or for.

You are right about your statements, however. The GOP is a corrupt criminal conspiracy and normalizing it is meaningless. I just wonder if now is the time to make a stand. Their bullshit will go on as long as they are in office.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
5. Heavens no! Chest those cards!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:54 AM
Feb 2018

The FBI and DOJ are reviewing the 10 page Dem memo so that no DAMAGING classified info is released. Responsible Dems.

Also, I believe the Executive Branch has to declassify.

However, like the Pentagon Papers, it can be read into the Congressional record on the floor.

Lastly, revealing information that could possibly TAINT one of Mr. Mueller's many investigations would be hugely unhelpful.

BAIT: Dems can't take the bait and spill all the Carter/FISA beans just because the irrespomsible GOP tossed a few sickly beans on the table.

Hell, we can recap the Memo sources in general terms based on what we already know.

30% of Americans cannot be convinced Trump Et Al is capable of wrongdoing.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
2. I think not. Not enough to be gained.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:11 AM
Feb 2018

Releasing it now without a committee vote would serve the interest of the Republicans. They could say that the Democrats broke the law. It would distract from the big zero that is their memo. They played a poor hand with their memo. Let them spin on the hook.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
3. Yes, just keep the focus on the Nunes POS memo.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:20 AM
Feb 2018

I think the traitors are now secretly hoping/pushing for the release of the minority memo.

lamp_shade

(14,836 posts)
13. Schiff knew exactly what he was doing. IMO he faked putting up a fight, thereby
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:38 AM
Feb 2018

assuring the committee would stall the release of his memo... long enough for an army off investigative reporters to plaster the memo with bullet holes and, as you said, "let them spin on the hook".

mvd

(65,174 posts)
4. It should have been released..
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:26 AM
Feb 2018

But since the Nunes memo is a dud and I feel the Repukes will keep hurting themselves, we can wait.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
12. Just to be clear to the readers here, it wasn't released because it's also classified.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:22 AM
Feb 2018

It wasn't declassified as the Nunes memo was, and it won't be anytime soon if ever.

Just a heads up for those playing along at home.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
15. Thanks for pointing that out
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

Actually it's best releasing neither. But Repukes showed how partisan they are by doing just theirs.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Why let the GOP use the "classified" thing to keep us from telling our side of the thing?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:28 PM
Feb 2018

Why play fair when they won't?

It's not as though we'll ever be rewarded for it.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
7. No reason to right now
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:03 AM
Feb 2018

Nunes memo is being widely and wildly mocked right now. Nunes is getting ripped to shreds, as he should. Don't distract from that. Let 'em keep digging.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
11. Why?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:19 AM
Feb 2018

They'll be censured and take media fallout for absolutely no reason. Which will have an impact on Dems in vulnerable seats in November.

The Nunes memo was a massive flop. Why should they put themselves at risk over a big flop on the GOP's part? As it is now we have Graham saying the Dems response will add context to the Nunes memo when/if it's released and we still have the GOP House blocking it. It's a win-win for Democrats to wait this out.

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