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David Frum just said on Maher -- (Original Post) RandomAccess Feb 2018 OP
It kind of says it all GP6971 Feb 2018 #1
I wouldn't be surprised Lotusflower70 Feb 2018 #2
Unless he's GP6971 Feb 2018 #3
Hmmm Lotusflower70 Feb 2018 #5
He showed and it was "different" n/t GP6971 Feb 2018 #12
He showed up, so we changed the channel. The brainy fun was over vy then anyway. Hekate Feb 2018 #10
What's Russian for "Perrier"? ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #4
I had to watch Rachel on delay so I won't be able to watch Bill Upthevibe Feb 2018 #6
Poland Water, I think Hekate Feb 2018 #11
Did you know that Poland once held Moscow? ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #19
Bill has lost control of the panel a couple of times, dewsgirl Feb 2018 #7
I can't wait for it to be posted on you tube. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #9
I didn't know it worked like that. Good 😊 dewsgirl Feb 2018 #15
Scaramuchi is a nasty piece of work Cosmocat Feb 2018 #17
Frum and Brazile both let down their guard on Maher & it was wonderful Hekate Feb 2018 #8
Frum was pissed I think because he wasnt able to nail down Scaramucci. rusty quoin Feb 2018 #13
David Frum REALLY went at 'the Mooch.' yallerdawg Feb 2018 #16
YES. The significant warning Frum wanted to get across Hortensis Feb 2018 #28
That is my take. It is like we laugh, go to sleep, and let the flow to the right wash over us. rusty quoin Feb 2018 #33
Who's going to stop it indeed RandomAccess Feb 2018 #36
I don't care what Frum says. Weed Man Feb 2018 #14
Lions don't have stripes. George II Feb 2018 #18
I think maybe now you should care what Frum says. He is on our side now. rusty quoin Feb 2018 #20
No melman Feb 2018 #25
He's who he is--a very intelligent, connected moderate Hortensis Feb 2018 #27
"a very intelligent, connected moderate conservative", and bottom line an American. George II Feb 2018 #34
You can cling to the past and feel all righteous RandomAccess Feb 2018 #37
I don't get HBO, can't afford it. But I do love watching the clips on YTube. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #21
watching it now orleans Feb 2018 #22
The Mooch! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #31
he was driving me crazy orleans Feb 2018 #39
lol Funny dude, David Frum Cha Feb 2018 #23
David 'Axis of Evil' Frum? melman Feb 2018 #24
Just watched it. NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #26
LOL world wide wally Feb 2018 #29
Really dated myself there, didn't I? NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #30
His best line was when Mooch called him an elitist dsc Feb 2018 #32
I missed that. Good one! RandomAccess Feb 2018 #35
His best line was that the memo is a prop for Hannity question everything Feb 2018 #38

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
6. I had to watch Rachel on delay so I won't be able to watch Bill
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:48 PM
Feb 2018

until he's repeats because I forgot to record....damn....

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. Did you know that Poland once held Moscow?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:05 AM
Feb 2018

And they've been paying for it ever since. It kind of reminds me of a certain SOS who once presumed to run for president and defy both Putin and his puppet. There will never be an end to the harassment she receives because of that perceived slight.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. Bill has lost control of the panel a couple of times,
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:52 PM
Feb 2018

All the years I've watched him, I've never seen this happen. Proof that we are living in dark times indeed.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
9. I can't wait for it to be posted on you tube.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:55 PM
Feb 2018

I have to watch it quickly before HBO deletes it. Actually, I found out that if I post it in a reply post it stays in
there to watch without being deleted for some reason.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
15. I didn't know it worked like that. Good 😊
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:19 AM
Feb 2018

FYI There's a live stream on YouTube, you can rewind or watch after.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
8. Frum and Brazile both let down their guard on Maher & it was wonderful
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:55 PM
Feb 2018

I had no idea Frum was so witty! That little riff cracked me up.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
13. Frum was pissed I think because he wasnt able to nail down Scaramucci.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:08 AM
Feb 2018

Maher wanted it to be lighter, but Frum thought it was an opportunity lost. I have more respect for Frum now because he knows this shit is serious.

I get how Maher needed it to be entertaining, but I don’t find these Trump guys worth joking around with.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
16. David Frum REALLY went at 'the Mooch.'
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:20 AM
Feb 2018

I can see if Bill Maher let it go on, not one crooked, corrupt, slimy, sleaze ball of a Republican would ever come on the show again.

Frum made some seriously scary points, though.

Especially about how we Democrats are anticipating that everything will work out.

That it can't happen here.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. YES. The significant warning Frum wanted to get across
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:31 AM
Feb 2018

seems to have been missed as Brazile kept trying to talk over. He believes that this shocking "memo" attack, warfare in the center of our government, is merely the prelude to something much worse.

Frum doesn't have a crystal ball, but being a conservative allows him to understand and predict their behavior better than most who are not. He understood long before that wealthy right-wing forces are engaged in an enormous battle for control of our nation, while others are still focused on and oh-mying in surprise at the on-stage behaviors of elected Republicans and still always underestimating their ruthless determination to win at any cost.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
33. That is my take. It is like we laugh, go to sleep, and let the flow to the right wash over us.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:37 AM
Feb 2018

This shit takes a long time, and I’m real concerned that the time is finally right for an ass like Trump to pull off president forever. I ask why wouldn’t it happen? Who’s going to stop it?

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
36. Who's going to stop it indeed
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:51 AM
Feb 2018

Trump has been violating the Constitution (emoluments) and law (Trump hotel in D.C. and probably a bunch of other things) since the get-go, along with his determination for flaunting every possible convention, norm, tradition that we've relied on for so long.

And this past Monday he doubled down on his lawlessness, refusing to implement the law passed by an overwhelming bipartisan majority on Russian sanctions. Only a few Democrats said a thing. Yes, there were other things going on -- like this damned memo -- but still, that's a clear IMPEACHABLE offense.

Who's going to stop him? Clearly, not the Republicans. And he has just learned that the path is clear, full speed ahead.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
14. I don't care what Frum says.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:10 AM
Feb 2018

Once a neocon, always a neocon.

I don't care if he changed sides. Tigers and lions don't suddenly change stripes you know.

He is not one of us.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
25. No
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:32 AM
Feb 2018

I don't care what David Frum says and I never will. There's no Trump without GWB first. This didn't just come out of nowhere. Frum was part of that and so he helped bring us Trump. I guess people can pretend he's okay now that he's a 'never Trumper' if they want to, but as far as I'm concerned he can fuck right off and stay there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. He's who he is--a very intelligent, connected moderate
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:15 AM
Feb 2018

conservative who is fighting the corruption and extremism that have taken over the Republican Party. A force for rebuilding the stabilizing electoral center critical to democracy that has been breached.

Is that so bad? Or so bad that it justifies embracing division, in effect working for those who spent 40 years dividing the electorate with specific intent to conquer?

United we stand, divided we're on our knees beating off blows from each other while our nation is being looted and our power stolen.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. "a very intelligent, connected moderate conservative", and bottom line an American.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:49 AM
Feb 2018

He's kind of like Ana Navarro - a republican and/or moderate conservative who is willing to toss his political alignment (i.e., "party&quot for the good of the country.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
37. You can cling to the past and feel all righteous
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:56 AM
Feb 2018

or you can get strategically smart and make alliances with whoever you can to save our democracy. Your choice.

Were the situation not so dire -- and it IS dire -- I'd feel much the same way. But we need all the help we can get AND we're NOT going to save democracy without help from as many conservatives and Republicans as we can get our hands on.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
21. I don't get HBO, can't afford it. But I do love watching the clips on YTube.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:58 AM
Feb 2018

Bill lost control, which was unfortunate because he had some really heavy hitters on. I would have like to have heard each of their point of view. If it wasn't for little 'Moochie' blabbing everyone out. He's like a little mob boss.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. The Mooch!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 07:10 AM
Feb 2018

What a fucking disaster! I would have liked to have seen more of David Frum taking him down. He's such a little kiss-ass punk!

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
26. Just watched it.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:48 AM
Feb 2018

NOT a David Frum fan by any stretch - but he landed a few one-two punches on The Mooch that were very clever and well-timed.

The Mooch cracks me up. He is to today's political shows what Monty Rock III and Brother Theodore were to late night shows, like Merv Griffin and Steve Allen, back in the '60s - always good for some wacky fun.

I never see The Mooch without (a) thinking he's an extra from Goodfellas II who wandered into a political show by accident, and (b) wondering where in Jersey he just helped someone dump a body.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
30. Really dated myself there, didn't I?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:40 AM
Feb 2018

But for those of us who remember, doesn't The Mooch strike you as the 2018 version of Monty?

Maybe Scaramucci will also reinvent himself to stay guest-worthy - like turning himself into Disco Tex (and the Sexolettes) - GET DANCIN'!!!

dsc

(52,163 posts)
32. His best line was when Mooch called him an elitist
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 08:59 AM
Feb 2018

and he said you either can play that card or name drop Harvard you can't do both.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
35. I missed that. Good one!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:37 AM
Feb 2018

I heard Frum's comment, but didn't hear what Mooch had said. LOL. Frum really is quite witty.

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