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mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:13 PM Feb 2018

If the Nunes memo were a Hollywood movie, which flop would it be?


I vote Ishtar, from 1987. An absolute bust, starring Warren Beatty and Dustin Hoffman.

Reason it comes to mind, is that there was a pre release buzz indicating this over hyped movie was going to be a major flop. Much like the buzz about today's Nunes memo, some of that buzz coming directly from the white house, no less. In both cases, the initial negative buzz was spot on. In fact, regarding Ishtar, people were not even angry about spending their hard earned dollars for such a travesty, and were more amused than pissed off, simply marveling at the ineptitude, much like the reaction to the Nunes memo today. Only difference being that it's not funny regarding the consequences of what may lay ahead now.

Any other Hollywood flops come to mind for comparison purposes?

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If the Nunes memo were a Hollywood movie, which flop would it be? (Original Post) mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 OP
"Heavens Gate." They would all be turned away. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #1
Waterworld. Dumb movie. Hated the pee scene. shenmue Feb 2018 #2
... CatWoman Feb 2018 #3
Nah, Leonard Part 6 was worse gratuitous Feb 2018 #14
I love AIs plot Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #56
Ishtar was my first choice but Gigli was even worse.... marble falls Feb 2018 #4
+1, exactly. n/t FSogol Feb 2018 #25
Showgirls. muntrv Feb 2018 #5
this bad acting plus a little bit of porn thrown in lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #51
"Plan 9 From Outer Space" rurallib Feb 2018 #6
that one was sort of "purposely" bad mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 #7
'The Postman'. revmclaren Feb 2018 #8
"Oh, Senator Sin" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #9
Reefer Madness. Memo is almost as accurate and truthful. nt Atticus Feb 2018 #10
That's a good one. It probably isn't well know, but its still unintentionally funny. nt procon Feb 2018 #60
Ishtar...FTW!!!! Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #11
Paranormal Activity 2 JCMach1 Feb 2018 #12
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes kydo Feb 2018 #13
Pure Trash nt tazkcmo Feb 2018 #15
Pearl Harbor. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2018 #16
I read reviews so I normally don't see flops..... Upthevibe Feb 2018 #17
Yes. I like your choice. Its about a very serious subject but its shit. rusty quoin Feb 2018 #31
Exactly. Iggo Feb 2018 #35
"The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and MurrayDelph Feb 2018 #18
That should always be one of the possible answers to any movie quiz. Iggo Feb 2018 #36
2013 remake of The Lone Ranger. herding cats Feb 2018 #19
Weird but Johnny Depp was both the best thing in the movie and the worst thing about it. marble falls Feb 2018 #29
xXx: State of the Union HappyBeing Feb 2018 #20
Something made in 2016 which went directly to VHS. Hugin Feb 2018 #21
LOL. I think all crappy films should go directly to VHS Ilsa Feb 2018 #22
Three Amigos Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #23
Gigli starring Ben Affleck & Jennifer Lopez FSogol Feb 2018 #24
Money-wise if not also watchable-wise it has to be the worst. marble falls Feb 2018 #27
I actually tried to watch that Skittles Feb 2018 #37
Istar was the first to come to mind. nm Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #26
Suicide Squad blogslut Feb 2018 #28
The apropos choice would be the adventures of baron munchausen unblock Feb 2018 #30
That was a Terry Gilliam movie and was quite awesome. FSogol Feb 2018 #38
Yes I actually rather enjoyed it unblock Feb 2018 #39
All of Gilliam's movies verge on being a financial disaster. He tried to film Don Quitoxe FSogol Feb 2018 #40
Catwoman? Jack and Jill? Glitter? OliverQ Feb 2018 #32
Dumb and Dumber. Sparkly Feb 2018 #33
Florence Foster Jenkins Mme. Defarge Feb 2018 #34
Well....she had the purest intentions....she really did. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #46
An American Carol JHB Feb 2018 #41
LOL, my choice also! rusty fender Feb 2018 #43
I'm one of the few still-sane human beings who have seen it more than once... JHB Feb 2018 #47
I never saw it but rusty fender Feb 2018 #50
Megaflop, and **not**the computer kind. JHB Feb 2018 #55
And deservedly so rusty fender Feb 2018 #57
Joe Versus the Volcano. boston bean Feb 2018 #42
Battlefield Earth meadowlander Feb 2018 #44
Weekend At..... lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #45
Are we speaking of actual box office flops Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #48
This. Different Drummer Feb 2018 #49
No--I loved "Ishtar." nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #52
No mention bmbmd Feb 2018 #53
The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight (1973) no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #54
Plan 9 From Outer Space Lint Head Feb 2018 #58
"National Treasure" SonofDonald Feb 2018 #59

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Nah, Leonard Part 6 was worse
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:41 PM
Feb 2018

For my money, though, it's A.I. all the way. Sub-moronic plot that completely wastes the talents of Jude Law and Steven Spielberg.

But why all the hate on Ishtar? Was it horribly overbudget? Sure, but it's not your money, what do you care? Taken on its own terms without regard to all the cash the studio set on fire, it's not a lousy movie.

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
7. that one was sort of "purposely" bad
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:30 PM
Feb 2018

but it's seeming like the Nunes memo is as well, for whatever reason.

Good call.

revmclaren

(2,524 posts)
8. 'The Postman'.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:30 PM
Feb 2018

Waaaay too long and terrible writing!



Edited to add:

Memo could have been shortened to just say 'FBI bad, Russia good. Fire Rosenstein.! Heil Trump'.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
17. I read reviews so I normally don't see flops.....
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018

I've been to a few movies that are pretty bad (in spite of the reviews being good). I was disappointed in a couple from '17 that critics and audiences are raving about but I thought sucked......Sorry....I take my movies way too seriously! LOL!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
19. 2013 remake of The Lone Ranger.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:25 PM
Feb 2018

I never saw the final numbers, but that one was a HUGE money sink and subsequent flop. It was a Trump level fail if ever there was one.

FSogol

(45,490 posts)
24. Gigli starring Ben Affleck & Jennifer Lopez
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:53 PM
Feb 2018
The violent story about how a criminal lesbian, a tough-guy hitman with a heart of gold, and a mentally challenged man came to be best friends through a hostage.


$54 million budget, earned $6 million

FSogol

(45,490 posts)
38. That was a Terry Gilliam movie and was quite awesome.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:20 PM
Feb 2018

A fantastical surreal retelling of Baron Munchausen's (an exaggerating liar) stories. It starred Eric Idle, John Neville, and Jonathan Bryce.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
39. Yes I actually rather enjoyed it
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:28 PM
Feb 2018

It was a flop not for being a bad movie, they just spent way too much making it.

FSogol

(45,490 posts)
40. All of Gilliam's movies verge on being a financial disaster. He tried to film Don Quitoxe
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:37 PM
Feb 2018

with Johnny Depp and the entire production (being filmed in a desert) was washed away by flash floods. The tale of the disaster is told in the documentary, Lost in La Mancha (highly recommend). From wiki:

Lost in La Mancha tells the story of the film's very delicate schedule and budget, which completely unraveled once production began. Gilliam is shown early on telling his crew not to be afraid to tell him that something is too complicated or expensive to be done because he needs to be restrained sometimes. In another interview he says he wants his films to be seen and enjoyed by the widest audience possible.

On the first day of shooting, the crew discovered that their outdoor filming location in the area known as Bardenas Reales was plagued by nearly constant noise from a nearby NATO aircraft target practice area. Gilliam decided to continue capturing footage, expecting to replace the audio in post-production. The second day of shooting featured a flash flood and hail which damaged equipment, and permanently changed the appearance of the location, where some shots had not yet been completed.

Days later it became clear that Rochefort was injured, and within a week Gilliam learned that Rochefort had a herniated disc and would be unable to continue filming. This ended production completely and resulted in a record $15 million insurance claim. The insurance company owned the rights to the screenplay for several years, until they were transferred back to Gilliam. Production of The Man Who Killed Don Quixote was restarted in 2008.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
46. Well....she had the purest intentions....she really did.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:59 PM
Feb 2018

She loved to sing. She just was a really really lousy musician... Not her fault.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
41. An American Carol
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:53 PM
Feb 2018

A movie billed as the ultimate riposte to “Hollywood liberals” but was so pathetic it didn’t last two weeks.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
43. LOL, my choice also!
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:19 PM
Feb 2018

Budget was $12 million, made $7 million

Two actors turned down the lead role before being accepted by Kevin Farley(who?)

4.3 stars on IMDB

JHB

(37,161 posts)
47. I'm one of the few still-sane human beings who have seen it more than once...
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:44 PM
Feb 2018

I saw it as an exercise just on its (de)merits, then saw it a second time for the purpose of concentrating on reviewing it, but by the second time there was no point. It was dying a quick but painful death, and by that time any acknowledgment of its existence would only delay the inevitable.

Partially a pity, because its "liberals are stuck in 1968" meme is a launching point for arguing that conservatives are stuck in 1978. But I gladly accept the loss.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
44. Battlefield Earth
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:41 PM
Feb 2018

Cynical, paranoid claptrap designed to bilk the gullible but so poorly executed it couldn't even manage that.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
48. Are we speaking of actual box office flops
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 06:31 PM
Feb 2018

Because some of the movies people are mentioning here aren't really flops. But my vote would be Waterworld. I actually didn't hate that movie, it just wasn't that great. Mediocre. And for what it cost to make and what it actually earned, it's one of the biggest flops of all time after being supremely hyped.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
59. "National Treasure"
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 01:55 PM
Feb 2018

Not so much as a flop but as a letdown.

The entire movie you're waiting to see the treasure of the ages, they find it.

Then spend about four minutes staring off into a huge room full of treasure.

And leave, what a letdown, just like the memo.

But that's a good thing.

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