Great ad from the Candidate running against Nunes

[Gothmog]

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[Wounded Bear]

1. Nice ad...I hope it works...

I hear his district is well conditioned, though.

[OnDoutside]

3. I'd keep hammering away at the Russian connection. No one likes voting for a traitor.

[erronis]

12. Are you sure? I hope so. It depends on the definition of "traitor"

And the repuglicans have warped it so that a red-state hillbilly would outright vote for Hitler or Stalin if they were presented as an american figure.

Boy, my own statement just made me realize how dependent we are on labels, and how they are themselves warped.

Signing off - radical liberal atheist.

[OnDoutside]

2. I LOVE it !!!

[Vinca]

4. I heard a couple of Nunes' constituents calling him the greatest thing since

sliced bread this afternoon. They think he's a patriot. Uphill climb in that district even going against a traitor.

[ResIpsa]

5. His district is Red....but not Soviet Red.

There comes a time when folks realize the jigs up. Even Republicans can vote for a Democrat. It happens. Especially when the alternative is a Communistic Traitor to Our Democracy. Not sure 'Big Agra', is ready to trade profits for the collective. Russia is challenging us. The pacific isn't that far away, hard to grow crops in Tulare when the soil is glowing. We can change this. Wait til they start spotting the subs and spy ships off the coast, and they get hip to things like an EMP attack. Things can change. Have faith.

[BigmanPigman]

6. There have been great billboards too.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/nunes-could-be-making-himself-vulnerable-back-home.html

[Cha]

8. Devin Nunes May Accomplish the Difficult Task of Making Himself Vulnerable Back Home

Thanks, BP

[BigmanPigman]

11. Thank YOU!

I have a tablet and can't post pictures as well as a ton of other stuff....very frustrating.

[Cha]

43. I bet.. and you're Welcome..

Thank You!

[Gothmog]

69. This billboard was on the Beat with Ari Melber

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[Cha]

70. Good ol Ari!

Mahalo, Gothmog

[Gothmog]

21. I love this billboard

[Cha]

44. Poor nunes.. everybody's calling him out

for being a stupid, driveling, traitor.

Have you seen this on nunes from Jimmy Kimmel, Goth? excellent..

highplainsdem https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10177467

[Gothmog]

49. Thank you for posting this-I love Kimmel

[Cha]

51. Yep, Jimmy layed it out nice

and simple for the folks not up to speed.

And the WSJ today..

WSJ: Strzok and Page Texts Show No Anti-Trump Conspiracy

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10180885

the crooked elite trump must be livid that the WSJ/Murdoch isn't playing nice about his stooge, devil nunes, and their conspiracy theories.

[SergeStorms]

46. That freaking billboard is MAGNIFICENT!

I love it, I love it.

[Cha]

48. Ain't it so, Serge!

[Gothmog]

77. From my twitter feed

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[Cha]

7. Thank you, Andrew Janz!

Thanks Goth

[Quixote1818]

9. How conservative is this district? nt

[Demsrule86]

10. Great ad.

[sheshe2]

13. KnR

For Andrew Janz!

[ffr]

14. From Roy Moore to Kevin Nunes, conservatives must be hanging their heads in shame

And if they're not, be sure to remind them. How embarrassing!

[tecelote]

15. Going low.

This is not a great ad.

We know nothing about what Andrew Janz stands for. He could be a white supremacist hiding behind this ad.

This is a Republican style attack ad. We're better than this.

[GulfCoast66]

16. I disagree when go low means telling the truth

Remember, when they go low, we kick them in the face.

[tecelote]

17. No. I don't remember.

We want to win voters confidence not kick Republicans in the face.

[Shrike47]

18. I personally want to kick them in the face but that is not who we Democrats are.

[Gothmog]

28. I like anyone who can beat a republican hack like Nunes

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[tecelote]

33. Agreed.

This is a better ad.

[Gothmog]

50. Today's ad had a specific goal that was met

The candidate got some good press and raised $100,000

[charliea]

37. Telling the truth is essential to building Trust and Confidence

Mr. Janz's ad appears just be news clips, from Fox, CNN and MSNBC. It seems to be nothing more than a 30 second Cliff Notes overview of Nunes's activity for the course of the Russian investigation, for those who haven't been paying attention.

Didn't even hear mention of Nunes 'recusing' himself. That's something that even Sessions appears to have honored.

How is that 'low' or off putting?

[tecelote]

38. Nunes is bad. No problem with the ad showing that.

But Janz is...?

Give us some substance. We're not sheep. We're not Republicans. At least hint at who Janz is.

[GulfCoast66]

53. Metaphorically, of course

We need to slam them with their lies. Total ridicule and questioning their patriotism.

That is what kicking in the face means to me. No quarter.

Every Democratic Congressperson should be screaming that Nunes is a Russian tool. And laughing at him. They cannot stand being made a joke.

[herding cats]

55. Right. Democrats should let this opportunity show Nunes for the lying snake he is pass them by.

Which would lead to other Democrats saying Janz is spineless and can't go on the attack.

I like the ad and I think exploiting Nunes being a lying partisan scumbag is a great idea! The truth will be their undoing.

[Upthevibe]

23. I live in California and I like this ad. You don't realize that we need a Republican

style attack ad? You say "we're better than this"? I'm pretty tired of taking knives to gun fights.

[tecelote]

31. This ad does nothing. It won't change a single mind.

Republicans are self destructing. Why get in the way?

Why stoop to their level? Why allow them to say we are the same?

[Hortensis]

41. Strongly disagree it stoops anywhere near their level, Tecelote.

This is fundamentally a presentation of facts, and truth versus their intense use of lies is a complete difference. You may dislike it's strong, agrressive style, but that doesn't turn it into lies.

In contrast, Republicans cannot discuss any issue without lying because their goals are so far from the wishes of most of their own people. They lie constantly about themselves and also about us because only by fooling people into believing we're satan can they get away with what they're doing.

True, the question about whether Nunes has been compromised by Russia is not a statement of truth, and is over the line. But even that falls far short of the slimy techniques normally employed by Republicans. At least in this case many objective professional observers have been wondering and talking about just that for over a year. Because this isn't a phony scandal manufactured by professional swiftboaters out of nothing. It's the real thing, even if some huge questions, like why?, aren't answered yet.

[tecelote]

45. It does a good job of painting Nunes as the scum he is.

It says nothing about Janz.

"...and also about us because only by fooling people into believing we're satan can they get away with what they're doing."

Maybe include some reasons why he is better? Otherwise, it's the same game. Nunes may be bad but we're still satan.

[SunSeeker]

54. It's not the only ad Janz will run. He'll declare his policy positions in other ads.

But this is an ad that must be run. It does a "good job" as you admit of showing (you oddly use the word "painting"-- suggesting the ad is not true?) that Nunes is scum. It exposes Nunes to his Fox-watching constituents who may not know this stuff.

Oh and WTF: "Nunes may be bad but we're still satan."

Who would think that?

You have Nunes on the one hand conspiring with Trump to obstruct justice and block prosecution of Russia interfering with our Democracy....and you have Janz on the other hand who is reporting that. How the fuck does that make Janz satan?! Or even in the same league as Nunes? How the fuck does calling out bad acts "bring you down to the level" of the the bad actor?!

[Cha]

57. Jeeze! Thanks for Clarifying the hell outta

that, SunSeeker!

"..paints nunes as scum.."? nunes Paints himself as scum.. No Ifs Ands or Buts.

[SunSeeker]

60. Janz was just revealing Nunes' true colors.

[Cha]

61. Yeah, that's not an attack.. that's

Revelations!

[brer cat]

65. +1

It's not the only ad Janz will run. He'll declare his policy positions in other ads.

Of course. And why wouldn't he respond to what is happening now? Attack while Nunes is top of the news and we need our position to be heard; there is plenty of time to run ads differentiating himself from Nunes.

Unfortunately, with some DUers it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[SunSeeker]

66. I know, right? So much for the meme we're spineless and not fighting hard enough.

[Hortensis]

62. So we're satan? And as bad as Repubs--for speaking truth

about Nunes in an ad instead of informing about Janz?

You chose a bad position based on a bad premise, and your argument's going downhill. Don't know why you chose it in the first place. There's no virtuous ground to claim by denigrating the use of truth in political ads. Claiming that the ad is low, as bad as Republicans, specifically because it didn't delete half those truths to talk up Janz is bogus.

Ironically, while trying to build a case for how bad this ad is, you inserted "white supremacist" into discussion of Janz twice, claiming it's our fault people don't know he's not because we're so low. You may not realize it, but Republicans work overtime every election looking for places to insert those kind of associations, standard right-wing dirty trick.

[herding cats]

64. Do you live in this district?

If not what gives you the authority to say anything about what people there think?

On edit: Are you the same person I asked this of in another thread? Damn, but you are! Please, refer to my more comprehensive reply to you in your other posts on this topic. Oh, and if you don't live there stop letting your feelings lead you to think you have a right to dictate their politics. That's not how it works in the real world. If you live there then get out and get busy locally to get your voice heard. I looked and have no reply from you on my other post yet I don't know if you're local.

[LanternWaste]

74. What specifically leads you to allege that?

"This ad does nothing. It won't change a single mind..."
What specifically leads you to allege that, and on what evidence is it supported?

And, for clarification, is this unedited quote from you "going low?" If not, what is the relevant difference?
"Americans that Love America but Hate Americans Call themselves Republican..."

[Gothmog]

24. Really?

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[tecelote]

32. Really.

That's a better ad.

[George II]

39. He has a nice website that explains what he stands for. Look at his picture, I doubt....

....he's a white supremacist!

Sheesh, sometimes I wonder.

[tecelote]

42. Look at his picture, I doubt....

....he's a white supremacist!

Because, they all look alike?

The ad says nothing about him. It doesn't even list his nice website.

Sheesh, sometimes I wonder.

[George II]

47. Well, a couple of things:

1. You can click on his name in the tweet and it'll take you to his twitter page, which has the link to his nice website.

Or.....

2. Look at the upper right corner of your screen, there's a dialog box next to the word "Google". Type in his name and I guarantee you'll find a link to his nice website.

In fact, he has his email address on his website. You can send him an email and ask him if he's a white supremacist. I'm sure he'll let you know.

[BoneyardDem]

52. Why must anyone consider a vote against something as less than valid?

Polly Pocket could run against Nunes and be the better candidate.

I honestly have a hard time understanding anyone fussing over any candidate running against Nunes.

[xxqqqzme]

63. Thre ad is perfect for

that district.

[world wide wally]

67. You don't have to say everything in one ad.

It is a good ad and I am sure the people in his district either already knows what he stands for or will learn shortly.

[Honeycombe8]

19. Great ad and tweet! nt

[onetexan]

20. well played by Janz

[Auggie]

22. I think it's terrible ... too busy, too much information, & nothing endearing about Janz

Keep it simple (stupid).

Amateurish attempt in my professional opinion. I've been in advertising over 3 decades.

[Upthevibe]

26. I think they need to try to capitalize on the moment.....n/t

[Gothmog]

25. Janz has raised $100,000 today

Link to tweet

[Upthevibe]

27. Excellent...n/t

[deurbano]

36. Motivated me to donate.

[Skittles]

29. trolls really hate this

[SunSeeker]

58. Indeed.

[Gothmog]

30. http://Nunesmemo.com redirects to homepage for Nunes challenger's campaign

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[SunSeeker]

59. Brilliant!

[Tatiana]

34. This ad is FANTASTIC!

This is exactly how we need to fight and I'm going to mozy on over and drop a bit of change in Janz's bucket.

Did we forget how the GOP mocked Kerry, who ACTUALLY SERVED in the military with purple heart band-aids?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

How about the swift boat ad against Kerry that called him a "sell out?"

We are dealing with an enemy without principles and we need someone willing to turn the weapons they use against them. That's the only way they will back down and learn their lesson.

[Leith]

35. The Ad Keeps Repeating "Nunes"

You don't hear who is running against him until the end.

It needs more Janz, less Nunes.

[Hulk]

40. Watch....I'm betting he will "want to spend more time with his family"...

...and the gop will find some other "clean" candidate to run for his seat.

The repuKKKes are a smart bunch of criminals. They aren't going to go quietly. Beware!!!

[oasis]

56. K and R. Kick Nunes' ass.

[GETPLANING]

68. And THAT...is how it is done

No prisoners, no quarter

[Gothmog]

71. Nunes could lose

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[Gothmog]

72. This is great news

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[Hortensis]

73. I don't see that Nunes has a primary opponent, and that's a huge shame

since his district is so deep red. If Democrats can't take the seat, losing it to another Republican would be good.
If Mueller's investigation were to cause him the kind of trouble that could cause him to lose, it would need to be within the next 6 months since, despite Comey's sedition-level behavior, it seems extremely unlikely that Mueller would take actions that could devastate the Republican Party within 90 days of the election.

The California Democratic Party, while targeting Nunes, has also targeted another corrupt Republican also under federal investigation, Congressman Duncan Hunter. GOP colleagues have reportedly also gossiped pretty freely about his drinking and womanizing in DC, and behaviors apparently so bad they're attributed by apologists to "PTSD." Might be that trouble for one would hurt the other also.

San Diego Union Tribune: Rep. Duncan Hunter's GOP colleagues reportedly worry about his re-election prospects — and his conduct Typical of the swipes was the unnamed Republican lawmaker who said, “He’s enjoyed his time in Washington — probably a little too much.”

They also described efforts by friendly lawmakers to get the 41-year old representative help, citing possible post-traumatic stress disorder from his military service.

Politico reported that the GOP is concerned that Hunter’s ongoing criminal investigation could leave the party with an election day disaster in which they lose one of the reddest seats in California to a Democrat.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sd-me-gop-hunter-20180208-story.html

[Gothmog]

75. From my twitter feed

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[Gothmog]

76. Yeah

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