The "MEMO" is a backfiring on the Trump Republicans.

[honest.abe]

It appears this misleading inaccurate stupid memo is galvanizing support of the FBI from both sides of the aisle.

Fools are often their own worst enemy.

[Horizens]

1. The memo

is a piece of garbage filled with omissions and outright lies. BUT ... trump will use it as a basis for firing Rosenstein and place him with a toady to quash Mueller. I've been preoccupied all day feeling hopeless and wishing there was something I could do.

[honest.abe]

10. Trump is freaking out.. he is one feeling the heat..

which is why he might do something very stupid like firing people in the FBI and the DOJ.

[MoonRiver]

16. There are some laws of nature which we can count on.

e.g.:
1. The sun sets in the West.
2. Trump always does something stupid.

[malaise]

69. ROFL

[MoonRiver]

71. Malaise!

[malaise]

72. Back at yah sis

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Yep

[Motownman78]

55. You can do something

Vote in November and get every person you know to vote Democratic. If we turn out, we have the numbers to win. Look at what happened in Alabama.

[Freethinker65]

2. So who told Trump to go for it? He did not decide for himself.

Trump is obviously not a stable genius, so someone convinced him it was a good idea to (rewrite and?) release it.

And who all helped write the embarrassingly bad memo? It was not just Nunes. He was given orders to present it.

It would have had so much more impact if it was never released and they could refer and transform it to any damn thing they needed it to be. Now in a few hours, Poof, it is gone.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. Rhymes with Hean Schmannity.

That's my guess.

[Freethinker65]

5. I was thinking him, but after that recent 'cut to the car chase' ridicule worthy stunt...

Is Trump really that demented to go all in for Sean?
Yikes!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Yes.

They are two stupid--and self-absorbed--birds of a feather.

Two thick skulled peas in a pod.

[FakeNoose]

29. My two cents, I don't think Bannon would have let Cheeto go this far

If Steve Bannon were still advising Cheeto, I believe he would have talked him out of releasing the memo. It's not that I admire Bannon, far from it! But we've seen other instances were Bannon got him to listen up and walk away from doing crazy shit. It seems he can actually think things through and see the big picture.

So we know that Bannon's gone and Cheeto is getting more insane by the minute. 'Course Hannity's already there.

[radius777]

36. Agree, Bannon understands politics

much better than most of these people, he isn't just a partisan hack like Hannity and the rest.. which is why I was ecstatic at the Trump/Bannon breakup .. he basically lost his 'Karl Rove'. Trump is fairly stupid on his own especially with the typical Fox hacks now guiding him.

[tblue37]

62. Bannon does dumb stuff, too--like backing Roy Moore, and continuing to do so

even after his history of sexual harassment and assault of teenaged girls was revealed.

And like flapping his mouth to Michael Wolff and to Joshua Greene, the author of Devil's Bargain, a book that infuriated Trump because in it Bannon takes the credit for Trump's success.

[Hortensis]

64. Bannon's as much of an amoral extremist like Hannity,

and people like that very often fail and self destruct because there's a lot wrong with them.

As for his understanding of politics, a lot of people disagree with that. Remember, this guy was inserted into the Trump campaign in August 2016 by ROBERT MERCER money. Several months later he had top level enemies instead of friends and because Trump didn't like him any more and blamed him for his troubles he'd lost most of his influence. In August 2017 after some months of this, he was officially out also; and last month the billionaire Mercers cut their ties with him and tossed him out of Breitbart as well.

A lot of badly flawed people rise to high levels because they have a real talent for self aggrandizement but can't remain because they lack the qualities needed for that. Some manage to hold on a lot longer than Bannon, though. Newt was speaker of the house for a whole 4 years before that collect of bad character traits finally finished permanently destroying his career in electoral politics.

[radius777]

65. Bannon is an extremist with self-sabotaging

personal issues, but he's not the typical Fox news hack, but (was) the de facto intellectual leader of the alt-right.

Al Sharpton (on Nicole Wallace's show) said this the other day, (parapharse) "while Trump is merely an opportunist, Bannon is a true believer."

Bannon is the one who identifiied and cultivated the alt-right ideology (via Breitbart) that Trump picked up on ... Bannon clearly has a sense of what the white working class GOP base was thinking.. that it wasn't the Tea Party and it wasn't old-school Reaganism - but white populism/nationalism, a sentiment you even see reflected in some (alt-left) of the Bernie movement.

[Hortensis]

68. Yes, agree, especially with that last about populism, but

but I'd drop the suggestion of Bannon's abilities several degrees. He has ability all right, but if the Mercers hadn't PURCHASED him into Trump's circle, he'd still be working for them over at Breitbart (if they hadn't fired him for something else).

Lol at what white supremacists seeing him as an intellectual says about them. He does posture as one, throwing out the names of authors of thick books, who themselves have been trying and failing to create intellectual basis for what really only arises from gut-level fears and hates.

As for populism, the dangers and opportunities presented by populist resentments around the planet are being studied by thousands of experts and manipulated wherever governments to be overthrown are found. Bannon's no populist of course and merely one of its opportunists.

We'll be hearing more of him, of course. But at what level? Twenty years later Newt sells fake cancer cures and uses GOP primaries as sleazy billboards for his brand name.

Bannon's of course potentially very dangerous. As you say, he's a true believer -- in destroying liberal western democracy. But (last heard!) he's currently without money and power, and that Alabama debacle a severe setback to his brand. Is billionaire Peter Thiel's extremism of destructive enough type to make him willing to fund Bannon's next move? Or who else Left-wing populists seem to be in need of a new candidate, if only Bannon himself were more charismatic...

[UnTied]

49. ***********

...............and one looks like a thumb

[JHB]

4. A certain FOX host, name rhymes with inanity, most likely.

[meadowlander]

6. The Kushners are crapping themselves about the Russia investigation.

Either Jared or his dad will have gotten into Trump's ear and convinced them that he can make it all go away just like he did when he fired Comey.

[WhiteTara]

23. His KGB handlers were in town and gave him his list of

things to do.

[japple]

35. Gen. Kelly

eom

[comradebillyboy]

57. I'll second that! Kelly has so much more power than he has as a

Marine general or even as head of Homeland Security, I think it's gone to his head. Kelly really thinks he's in charge, and even worse he acts like he's in charge.

[mercuryblues]

59. For days

I have been tweeting trump that Kelly is out to get him. Feeding into his paranoia. Finding out today that Kelly was indeed heavily involved in pushing the memo to be published I might be right. Kelly wants his job.

Kelly is smart enough to know that memo makes trump looks stupid to hire a known Russian asset to his Nat Sec board.

It is fun to tweet conspiracy theories to trump. He is so paranoid that he eats at McD's so his food can't be poisoned. I suggest everyone pick a name in his cabinet or family and send him tweets on how they are out to get him. No facts needed, just fit the theory into the narrative.

Something Like this...

Hey Don, have you ever thought JR wants you in prison? He then gets it all for himself. He declares you incompitent and walks off with the whole shebang...Maybe even your wife. He seems to be "accidentally" letting illegal info slip.

Hey Don, Your son keeps tweeting about how you broke the law. Once you're gone Ivanka is next. Who do you think told the FBI all the damaging info on Jared? Not Ivanka!

Hey Don, what is Donny doing? telling the world you get all your money from Russian's. He wants you in prison.

Hey Don, Jr running around NYC telling everyone he slept with Melania.

[johnmont]

7. memo

What rational person would put anything incriminating on an office memo?

[DeminPennswoods]

9. I think it is, too

It's so laughably ham-fisted and the intent is so obvious Ray Charles could see it.

[SharonClark]

11. Wishful thinking or do you have a source?

[honest.abe]

13. Watching news, twitter, etc.

The tone is mostly in support of the FBI.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

27. broadcast network news is pathetic

I watched the network news tonight and it barely got past telling what was in the memo. None of them gave equal time to rebutting it. ABC was best, but still mostly Democrats "said". NBC was worst and seemed to just push the political battle over the memo.

It was disgusting.

[docgee]

30. I actually flipped over to faux news and Chris Wallace shit all over it.

He was saying no way the dossier was the only thing used to get the warrant.

I was pleasantly surprised (maybe more shocked actually) to see that.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

31. thanks!

It's been years since I turned to Fox except for football. Never dreamed they might disparage the memo.

[docgee]

32. Mostly they were touting it...

But one of them brought on Wallace and clearly expected him to go along. It was hilarious to see him shoot it down.

You have to flip over once in a while to see what the trumpsters are being brainwashed by.

[YessirAtsaFact]

52. If you know anything about Carter Page the memo is ridiculous

The FBI has been keeping tabs on him since at least 2013.

Theres a file on him six inches thick full of reasons to get a FISA warrant, especially when he hooks up with a presidential campaign.

[Blue_Roses]

66. Exactly.

Nt

[Blue_true]

53. It is being ripped apart on the web.

The words I read were lies, opinions, deleting the truth. I have yet to read any positive reaction to it outside of trumpers.

[Eyeball_Kid]

12. I havent seen any evidence of that,

but the evening is still young.

Still, the GOP is imposing a gag rule on themselves. There isn’t an army of Trumpians out there pushing the party line. Only the tea party fascists are in front of the cameras.

I’m suspecting that very soon now, cracks in the Trumpy Potemkin presidency will split open.

[honest.abe]

18. Actually I have not heard a specific GOPer criticising the memo in support of the FBI..

but I sense its coming.

[regnaD kciN]

58. Well, at least one is out there calling on Rosenstein to be charged with treason...

[CentralMass]

21. PtRumpkin .

[SunSeeker]

14. My Trump supporter in-laws have not mentioned it at all today on social media.

I thought they would be screaming about it, since they were pushing for its release. Hee hee. They're know it's a dud.

[MoonRiver]

19. Lol, poor dears

[Hortensis]

15. +1000. "Fools are often their own worst enemy."

Neither the WH crowd nor the Republican caucuses in congress would be in this incredibly unlikely mess if they were not fools.

Old institutions like congress allow almost anyone to skate along safely in the crowd for decades if wished. THAT used to be SOP. Something changed.

My money's still on the creation over the past 30 years of a centimillionaire/billionaire class and the enormously corrupting influence of their money and power on the conservative party they large took over.

[SWBTATTReg]

61. Absolutely agree w/ you !!

Far too much money in our elections...

[Hortensis]

63. And in vast rewards after serving in office a while.

Those who do leave office. On top of everything, most sent to DC like their jobs way too much for the good of the nation. They need to be willing to lose them.

[mountain grammy]

17. One trumper friend on social media

has been touting the great memo.. he's getting slammed. I just keep posting a laughing emoji at everything he says.. it's too ridiculous to answer.

[Cha]

20. Crooked Elite trump is Always his own worst

enemy.

[Demsrule86]

22. McCain did criticize it.

[Corvo Bianco]

24. Well you know what they say

If everybody's laughing at you for being a moron prove them wrong by shooting your face off.

[sunonmars]

25. Nunes is screwed, I expect his resignation by Monday

[Sophia4]

28. OK, so I'm going to brag that I predicted this outcome right here on this

website.

[vkkv]

33. I really expected some SUBSTANCE in this OP. You might as have just ended the subject line with

"NT" = no text.

[honest.abe]

39. Sometimes less is more.

[vkkv]

46. I'll remember that next time I renew my membership.

[GulfCoast66]

48. You have problems with an OP in GD,

And send a not so Subtle hint that you may stop supporting DU?

Seems a little petty unless you have other issues.

[vkkv]

50. Less is more, right? Just like the OP said.

By the way, how many hundreds of dollars have you given over the years?

An exact figure would be nice..

[GulfCoast66]

51. Member for 2 years. $150

Perhaps we are talking past each other? Maybe I did not catch your meaning?

I thought you were threatening to leave DU because of the OP. Read that way to me.

If I took it wrong I apologize.

[Mr.Bill]

34. Is some one keeping an eye on the White House

to make sure this is not just a big deflection and right now they are signing orders for oil drilling in Yosemite and Yellowstone?

[HuskyOffset]

37. SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH . . . dammit

Quiet, you fool! The Drumpf mining consortium has long term plans to mine all that delicious, beautiful magma in the Yellowstone caldera, plans which were first jeopardized by the movie “2012”, and you are further imperiling with your careless chatter! Cease this at once!





/s, of course.

[pansypoo53219]

38. maybe steven miller thought this is pure genius.

[a kennedy]

40. and where the hell is the Democratic memo response???

fairness, is all we’re asking for. Fairness, that’s the answer to everything. We just want a fair shake. FAIRNESS.

[honest.abe]

41. Its coming.. just a bit delayed.

I suspect we will see it sometime next week.

[a kennedy]

42. and, oh yah, the repubs get to look it over and give their ok for it to be released.

[honest.abe]

43. Yeah, that's the delay.

[Mr.Bill]

44. Does Schiff get to change it after they do

like Nunes did?

[a kennedy]

47. Not sure really....repubs ARE IN CHARGE so.......not sure how this works.

[oberliner]

45. Both sides of the aisle?

Who from the Republican side?

[Blue_true]

54. Yes, some republican Congresspeople are ripping it apart.

I didn't get names, but I read one article that pointed out that the memo has caused problems on Capitol Hill.

[honest.abe]

60. McCain

https://www.mediaite.com/online/mccain-slams-partisan-attacks-on-fbi-doj-we-are-doing-putins-job-for-him/

[mvd]

56. The memo is a big nothing

The scary thing is how the Repukes are trying to undermine Democracy.

[VOX]

67. But-but-but it only shows 15% of the problem! There will be MORE memos! Remember BENGHAZI!!!

Hillary's emails!!!
BENGHAZI!!
The Deep State!!!
Barack Obama runs the Deep State!!!
Somewhere, somehow, MUSLIMS!!!
George Soros funds the Deep State!!!
Release the MEMO!!!
Release MORE memos!!!
Mueller is a leftist Marxist Obama plant!!!
You can't stop me from saying, "MERRY CHRISTMAS"!!!

[Cosmocat]

70. No it isnt

It's hard to believe people don't get where we're at right now.

It isn't meant to be a factual instrument. It's meant to further detach the Bass from reality, which it did. To give them something that in there deranged world is the final proof of the grand conspiracy.