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Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:39 PM Feb 2018

TPM EDBLOG: First Take: The 'Nunes Memo' Is Even Weaker Than Expected - By Josh Marshall


By Josh Marshall | February 2, 2018 1:30 pm

Having given the Nunes Memo an initial but close read, here’s my take. The memo seems to tell us no more than what’s been reported in various sources for months and even on the most basic read seems obviously misleading on its face. Here’s why.

Let me try to summarize the core argument of the memo more or less on its own terms. The memo argues that the Steele Dossier was a critical or central part of the government’s (i.e., the FBI’s) argument for obtaining a FISA warrant on Carter Page. In none of its applications or follow up applications (four total) did the FBI disclose to the FISA court that the Steele Dossier was essentially the fruit of the poisoned tree – ultimately funded by Democratic party funds, an inherently political document and only corroborated in its findings to a limited degree. That’s the gist of the memo: the FBI used a tainted and unreliable source to get a warrant for surveillance on an American citizen without disclosing to the court any of the reasons not to credit the information contained in the dossier.

The key hinge in the memo is that it consistently seeks to suggest that the Dossier was the heart of the government’s case or even the entirety of the government’s case without actually providing any evidence for this claim or – critically – describing any other evidence the government may have had or may have included in the application. I see two key places in the memo where they make this case. On page 2 the memo states the dossier was “an essential part” of the government application. On the bottom of page 3 the memo says: “Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.”

The latter quote is simply a characterization of what McCabe said. His actual quote would be critical to judging its significance. Even on its face it doesn’t clearly mean there wasn’t other probative evidence. The earlier claim is simply a claim – that it was an essential part of the application. In short, the memo provides no real evidence that the Dossier was central to the application or how the government got the information and is at pains to ignore what other evidence the government provided. Lots of reporting suggests there was significant additional evidence in the application. That squares with what we know about how FISA applications work and which ones get approved.

The one exception comes in the last paragraph of the memo where it says that the application also mentioned evidence about George Papadopoulos and his activities. “But,” say the memo authors, “there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos.”

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TPM EDBLOG: First Take: The 'Nunes Memo' Is Even Weaker Than Expected - By Josh Marshall (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
WH Counsel-These are only opinions of GOP staffers Gothmog Feb 2018 #1
This memo is quite underwhelming, and it's case unproven. kwassa Feb 2018 #2

kwassa

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2. This memo is quite underwhelming, and it's case unproven.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

It is extremely weak. Nothing really new, and certainly no proof that the Steele dossier is either defective or the sole source for the FBI.

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