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From today's NY Times.
The greatest danger from a man so unerring in his detection of human weakness, so attuned to the thrill of cruelty, so aware of the manipulative powers of entertainment, so unrelenting in his disregard for truth, so contemptuous of ethics and culture, so attracted to blood and soil, was always that he would use the immense powers of his office to drag Americans down with him into the vortex.
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Trump has lowered expectations. He has inured people to the thread of violence and meanness lurking in almost every utterance; or worse, he has started to make them relish it. He has habituated Americans to buffoonery and lies. He calls himself a genius.
If so, his genius resides in the darkest realms of the human psyche.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/opinion/trump-corruption-republic.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region.
"... he would use the immense powers of his office to drag Americans down with him into the vortex."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Or his mind is a toilet.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Our media quote him, and in their attempts to appear fair (or to support him), they lower the bar on public discourse.
BumRushDaShow
(129,020 posts)We are undergoing what they call a "perfect storm".
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)From one day to the next, the NYT blows hot and cold, or maybe it's just me.
Just read an article in the New Yorker by Bill Kristol, of all people. Got this takeaway:
The darkness has power.. this is a real and present danger. The NYT has also given that darkness power, and then tries to mitigate it. You can't have it both ways.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Best description of Lord Fatass inner world Ive seen.
Scorched earth.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)He is all that, but that's what his 35% want. It's much easier to blame one person, but these voters, my fellow Americans, are amoral and severely lacking a moral compass. And I include several family members. Very fine people they are not. Not evil, just lacking in empathy and moral principle.
Trump was elected. He is sustained and encouraged to do his actions, and rejected if he compromises. This is not a dictatorship. This is intentional election of and unyielding support of cruelty.
He's carrying out the will of his voters, who all accept, and some thoroughly enjoy, the cruelty inflicted.
rainin
(3,011 posts)We need to stop saying that. His surprise "victories" in swing states were engineered. It was stolen. We need to stop saying that he was "elected". (And to those who argue he was elected because of EC....don't. If the popular vote in each state had been fairly determined, the EC would have gone for Hillary.)
Cyrano
(15,041 posts)uncounted votes, plus possible Russian meddling with actual voting machines, adds up to another stolen election. Strange how Republicans are always on the "winning" side of stolen elections.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Yes, the EC is unfair and undemocratic. But it is the system we have to work within, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
It's the same as those who come on DU and say at every turn "we must demand paper ballots". It's not going to happen without overwhelming Dem majorities, and we're decades away from that. 2018? it's an unhelpful fantasy.
We're at a peak of GOP power engineered by conservative money. "Stolen" is amorphous, and will not get apathetic voters to the polls this Nov.
rainin
(3,011 posts)I said the EC is the result of a vote count that doesn't represent the true vote count. The EC works fine when we run fair elections. When one side cheats, the EC is just the final rubber stamp.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)It can't be just a feeling. There needs to be actionable evidence.
Given RW power in those states and across the US, nothing will be forthcoming but theories and accusations, which are quite easy to discount when the RW Noise Machine works 24/7 to confuse the populace. Joe Average voter will not follow the minutiae.
For all intents and purposes, President Narcissistic Sociopath was elected. Put quotation marks around it if it helps.
lancelyons
(988 posts)The bar has been lowered. You can now be a piece of shit as president.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Trump's seeming hero (or at least Bannon's pick to be Trump's hero) Andrew Jackson was also a piece of shit. We've had a few POS presidents. The main difference is that WE are the people living through this time period and the stakes are higher because of nuclear weapons.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)The headlines from 1933 remind us that the worst moments in history often seem banal at the time they occur.
And so it is with Trump.
We are fortunate that we live in the time of television and can see in Trump's expressions, in his face, who this man really is, his cruelty, his conniving, his cunning, his brutality, his ugliness -- there for all to see. He wears his sadism on his face.
The third of Americans who support him. Don't they see that too? Or are they too masochistic to care?
sweetroxie
(776 posts)They believe that He will take care of them.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)to such an obviously sadistic figure.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Trump simply projects his own weaknesses onto others, and sometimes it may seem to stick. Usually, it just comes across as yet another weakness of his own.
He has realized that some Americans like bullying women, minorities and immigrants, but that's not genius--it's just a lack of scruples.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)He does it to anyone in his path. He'll find a word to tag them with (you know them all), and he hammers it home. It's not particularly clever, but it proved effective.
It worked on his GOP rivals, and it stuck to Hillary. He still won't let it go. He's a tenacious asshole.
He has a penchant for bullyng, but he is bad at it.
Now, he has successfully used money to buy silence and to intimidate others into compliance, but that's purchasing power, not talent.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)the Oval Office.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)President Obama is probably one of the kindest, smartest, and comprehensively decent people we have had as President. Remember however, he was Black. I am not being facetious or hyperbolic here. That is a big factor.
A good portion of the country is NOT past the race thing and nothing that President Obama could have done, would have changed that. In fact, his successes were a spark for outrage for those people.
Trump is just the ugliest embodiment of that mentality. He is the quintessential "Ugly American", nouveau riche, vulgar, racist, misogynistic, anti-intellectual, but seemingly brimming with confidence while actually masking a sense of inferiority. That has been an attitude that has plagued America since its founding and Trump defines it, and shows us that despite strides in legal matters and mindset, we still have a lot of work to do with regards to race, gender, sexual orientation, and freedom from impositions of fundamentalist religion.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Aristus
(66,377 posts)Well-placed here, I think...
niyad
(113,315 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)they helped get this Cheating, Lying, Pervert in our WH?