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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:11 PM Jan 2018

Schiff: BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo

BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo he sent to White House – changes not approved by the Committee. White House therefore reviewing a document the Committee has not approved for release.




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Schiff: BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo (Original Post) MelissaB Jan 2018 OP
WTF? Nunes seems desperate. Laurian Jan 2018 #1
Oh, he is. Truly desperate. dchill Jan 2018 #25
Wow, no kidding. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #29
I would use a different word, despicable still_one Jan 2018 #30
Despicable Disposable Deplorable lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #79
Haw haw!! A tweeter just wrote, Nunes has gone full Nunes - guess hes a part of our Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #41
Nunes will get away with it though because Ryan will not stop him. cstanleytech Feb 2018 #68
THIS. volstork Feb 2018 #85
From Manu Raju MelissaB Jan 2018 #2
Schiff says Nunes deliberately misled the committee MelissaB Jan 2018 #18
And @speakerRyan is up to his nose in this memo-giving @DevinNunes a free rein!! riversedge Feb 2018 #74
You can't keep up with these criminals. madaboutharry Jan 2018 #3
I love this man. MelissaB Jan 2018 #19
Holy shit. this is grounds for impeachment and expulsion from Nunes......... Takket Jan 2018 #4
Come on. nobody is going to be impeached.... pangaia Jan 2018 #10
I meant improper for the conduct of a congressperson Takket Jan 2018 #21
What?? pangaia Feb 2018 #53
Congress can expel him or Ryan can take away his committees. Gore1FL Feb 2018 #66
Ryan would probably replace him with another just as morally bad. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2018 #70
With all due respect, you know this how? whathehell Feb 2018 #78
this should be grounds for his immediate removal as comittee chair! green917 Feb 2018 #43
2 House expulsions modern time Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #50
Good Lord, any fucking fool can see the blatant criminality going on here... spanone Jan 2018 #5
Jail. C Moon Jan 2018 #33
EXACTLY! serbbral Feb 2018 #83
Mueller really needs to find out what Nunes is trying so desperately to hide Skittles Jan 2018 #6
I think Mueller already knows Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #32
My guess is he already does! green917 Feb 2018 #45
What???? stevil Jan 2018 #7
Very good roscoeroscoe Feb 2018 #48
Hahahahahahaha. Nunes and the WH are incredibly stupid Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #8
Fucking keystone kops CatWoman Jan 2018 #22
"Mr. Bean Goes to Washington" oasis Feb 2018 #47
No, they know exactly what they're doing Wednesdays Feb 2018 #57
Have to agree. Enoki33 Feb 2018 #86
Benjamin Wittes just included #ReleasetheDoctoredMemo in a tweet - Leghorn21 Jan 2018 #9
You got that right! MelissaB Jan 2018 #23
Unfortunately, Paul F'ing Ryan Alpeduez21 Jan 2018 #11
What the heck. C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #12
except... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #51
Except... C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #52
database? list? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #55
GOTV? You kidding? Wednesdays Feb 2018 #58
What's your solution? C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #61
First, take it to the damn Speaker, Ryan. Get him on record Ilsa Jan 2018 #13
He is just so, so effing stupid! Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #14
Question ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #15
The one Nunes gave him I guess Takket Jan 2018 #27
I agree, but what I'm really interested in is Nunes' intent ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #36
I like the way you think. This is a huge huge point GusBob Feb 2018 #64
I wonder what and why? ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #16
This is fucked up! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #17
Justice for all. gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #65
msnbc has this on right now halobeam Jan 2018 #20
Old Enough 2 Old Enough 2 Jan 2018 #24
Honest truth... 4nic8em Jan 2018 #26
Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #28
Does anybody else think that all of this activity... dchill Jan 2018 #31
Yeah, or just inspired by his try anything shady attitude. bettyellen Feb 2018 #54
How the hell did this guy get to be the head of the Intelligence committee? Kablooie Jan 2018 #34
I think he is out of his mind with fear ... n/t Greywing Jan 2018 #38
Paul Ryan put him there. OliverQ Jan 2018 #40
He has a degree in agriculture from a polytechnic university meadowlander Feb 2018 #72
Nunes is in deep. Probably criminally liable. So, he has to protect Trump to save himself. Tatiana Jan 2018 #35
i have NO DOUBT it's a tRUMP RYAN nUNES idea bluestarone Jan 2018 #37
Why has Nunes not been arrested? OliverQ Jan 2018 #39
I hope Mueller has a gold plated indictment ready to unseal on that traitor Nunes. LonePirate Feb 2018 #42
CNN's Jeffrey Toobin, Senior Legal Analyst... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #44
well if found guilty of a felony bluestarone Feb 2018 #46
Nunes has sealed his own fate. democratisphere Feb 2018 #49
self implication orangecrush Feb 2018 #56
From my twitter feed Gothmog Feb 2018 #59
Is it possible Nunes watered down the version... usaf-vet Feb 2018 #60
With 35+% of Mericans behind whatever tRump NoMoreRepugs Feb 2018 #62
Wow. Blue_Roses Feb 2018 #63
Another Traitor Hassler Feb 2018 #67
JFC mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 #69
Holy crap. What can the Dems do about it? Nothing? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #71
Adam Schiff is on the case! Cha Feb 2018 #73
Schiff's going to save the democracy. Hope he's got good security. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #75
Both Nunes and Ryan must be tried for this crime. wiley Feb 2018 #76
It's crystal clear Nunes is a co-conspirator. He must be on Mueller's radar. Vinca Feb 2018 #77
Is there any reason to believe that any version of something Nunes creates TNNurse Feb 2018 #80
It's all a pretext to firing Mueller Juliusseizure Feb 2018 #81
knr triron Feb 2018 #82
Tell me they won't get away with this Blue Owl Feb 2018 #84

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
41. Haw haw!! A tweeter just wrote, Nunes has gone full Nunes - guess hes a part of our
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:00 AM
Feb 2018

lexicon now, eh? IN A REALLY BAD WAY!!

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
68. Nunes will get away with it though because Ryan will not stop him.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 01:59 AM
Feb 2018

Why? Well one possibility is Ryan is in up to his neck in the conspiracy we are seeing unfolding.

volstork

(5,403 posts)
85. THIS.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

Ryan, mcconnell, and the entire upper echelon of the gop are lousy with kompromat. They should all go to jail.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
2. From Manu Raju
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:14 PM
Jan 2018
Schiff levels a major charge against Nunes. In letter, Schiff asserts Nunes made additional changes to the memo after House Intel approved its release and before sending to WH. Members were “never apprised of, never had the opportunity to review, and never approved” of changes


Schiff says there were “substantive” changes to Nunes memo and there must now be a new committee vote since the version at the WH was never approved for public release

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
18. Schiff says Nunes deliberately misled the committee
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jan 2018
Schiff says Nunes deliberately misled the committee when he suggested the memo approved by panel would be the one sent to WH. “We will send the content over to the White House, and the President has five days to either agree with us” or not, Nunes told Himes in Monday meeting

Takket

(21,629 posts)
4. Holy shit. this is grounds for impeachment and expulsion from Nunes.........
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jan 2018

changing the wording of a document after it has been voted on? That is as improper as it could possibly get. Any one of us that did this on our jobs would be fired.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. Come on. nobody is going to be impeached....
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jan 2018

And it can get a LOT more 'improper.'

Like the police and military gunning down protesters in the streets..

Takket

(21,629 posts)
21. I meant improper for the conduct of a congressperson
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jan 2018

Which I thought was obvious... But straw man away if you feel the need to defend Nunes.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
53. What??
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:21 AM
Feb 2018

Straw man?
Defend Nunes?
Are you kidding me?

Of course you meant improper for the conduct of a congressperson. I knew that.

I was saying regardless of what the repubs do, they are not going to impeach themselves.


And if what Nunes just did is 'improper,' which it of course is, that ain't nothin' compared to what is about to happen.




Gore1FL

(21,152 posts)
66. Congress can expel him or Ryan can take away his committees.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 01:55 AM
Feb 2018

I doubt congress will expel him. Ryan will take whatever course Ryan feels is best for Ryan.

I know none of that reflects optimism on my part, but I think if they were going to reel in Nunes, they would have done it already.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
70. Ryan would probably replace him with another just as morally bad.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 02:40 AM
Feb 2018

And, he's got lots to choose from. Ryan does not care so long as committee members have one primary goal - to maintain GOP power.

Regardless, this rampant breaking of norm, protocols, rules and laws must end somehow.

green917

(442 posts)
43. this should be grounds for his immediate removal as comittee chair!
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:00 AM
Feb 2018

At the very least, he should no longer be allowed to chair such a vital committee and i would think the ethics committee would have a pretty good case for censure. On top of the fact that Rep. Schiff has already charged that chairman Nuñes never read any of the source material that the memo is based on so, if that is true (And i have no reason to doubt congressman Schiff), how was he able to make accurate changes? This should immediately put this bs to rest and ensure that the memo never sees the light of day but, sadly, we're talking about house Republicans.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
50. 2 House expulsions modern time
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:13 AM
Feb 2018

In 1980 Representative Michael Myers of Pennsylvania was expelled for bribes in connection with the Abscam scandal. In 2002, Representative Jim Traficant of Ohio was expelled after he was convicted on numerous counts of bribery, racketeering, and tax evasion.


From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress

I don't know if the duplicitous actions of Nunes would get 2/3 votes in the House, especially *this* House.

spanone

(135,880 posts)
5. Good Lord, any fucking fool can see the blatant criminality going on here...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jan 2018

Nunes needs to go the fuck home or to jail.

Freethinker65

(10,057 posts)
8. Hahahahahahaha. Nunes and the WH are incredibly stupid
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:19 PM
Jan 2018

Unfortunately, the GOP will just rubber stamp the CYA altered memo release....or Trump will just Twitter release it for all to see regardless.

Trump bragged about getting rid of regulations, so why should he care if he and Nunez breaks another. The GOP is impotent.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
9. Benjamin Wittes just included #ReleasetheDoctoredMemo in a tweet -
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jan 2018

Shit be cray, Melissa, thanks for posting!

Alpeduez21

(1,757 posts)
11. Unfortunately, Paul F'ing Ryan
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:24 PM
Jan 2018

is the person we need to step up and stop this criminally negligent activity. All repukes are complicit in the Russian takeover of America.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
12. What the heck.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jan 2018

The Trumps are like cartoon criminals... so stupid and so corrupt.
Justice is gonna fall on them like a safe from the sky.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
51. except...
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:18 AM
Feb 2018

The judiciary interprets the laws. Stuff the judiciary with puppets and ignore any laws you don't like.

Control of the branch that writes the laws,
control of the branch that executes the laws,
control of the branch that interprets the laws,
control the message to the people.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
55. database? list?
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:26 AM
Feb 2018

Is there a database of GOP abuses since, oh, McTurtle's holding a Supreme Court seat for Putin's pick?

Lordy, we might have to outfit GOTV teams with wheelbarrows to carry printouts of all the grift, crime, dirty deals and ethics violations.

Wednesdays

(17,412 posts)
58. GOTV? You kidding?
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:46 AM
Feb 2018

How did that work out in 2016? Is there anything being done to keep it from happening again in 2018?

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
13. First, take it to the damn Speaker, Ryan. Get him on record
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jan 2018

for either letting it go through, or taking the honest path and withdrawing the memo from the WH and censuring Nunes.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
14. He is just so, so effing stupid!
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jan 2018

It's like he has no idea what he is supposed to do. Did Nunes really think it wouldn't be noticed that he changed the document? Was he hoping to pass it off as Twitler having changed it? He makes himself look more guilty every day.

Takket

(21,629 posts)
27. The one Nunes gave him I guess
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:40 PM
Jan 2018

Which is bizarre because I don't know what Nunes is supposed to say when the altered memo is released world wide. We deserve to see BOTH documents now and Nunes should be impeached fur this breach of ethics. You don't change documents after a committee has voted on a final version fit release. That's basically forgery.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
36. I agree, but what I'm really interested in is Nunes' intent
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jan 2018

Could he have wanted the WH memo to seem more damning so Donnie would sign off on it? Or was he trying to sneak false information (or information considered too highly classified for release) past the committee? Plus, I want to know if the WH had a hand in this redacting. Now THAT would be extremely interesting indeed!

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
64. I like the way you think. This is a huge huge point
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 01:44 AM
Feb 2018

What did add to the memo and why did he add it

The why is easy.....he wanted to sneak something out of the committee

As for what he added.....I guess we shall see?

I'm guessing he threw an accusation against Obama or Clinton in the altered memo

Something political. This whole thing is political

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
17. This is fucked up!
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:31 PM
Jan 2018

Black people are pulled over for having a broken tail light yet these fucking morons are getting away with murder. Putin WON! The government is going to be so broken all the kings horses and men will not be able to put it back together again.

Old Enough 2

(90 posts)
24. Old Enough 2
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jan 2018

Chairman Nunes having nowhere to go except stocking fruit shelves in Walmart is apparently afraid of losing his congressional seat and therefore has turned to polishing apples for Trump. He is by every definition a sycophant of the lowest order. It appears he's sucking up in hopes of becoming a lobbyist for a right wing cause when he's voted out of office in November. Then again who would be interested in such a dumb ass.

dchill

(38,539 posts)
31. Does anybody else think that all of this activity...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:43 PM
Jan 2018

is being dictated by Donald J Trump? It's like his DNA is all over it.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
34. How the hell did this guy get to be the head of the Intelligence committee?
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jan 2018

He seems like an out of control imbecile.

meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
72. He has a degree in agriculture from a polytechnic university
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 03:05 AM
Feb 2018

no experience in practicing law, serving the military or working in intelligence.

So of course in the Trump administration, he should be chair of the intelligence committee.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
35. Nunes is in deep. Probably criminally liable. So, he has to protect Trump to save himself.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jan 2018

What a disgusting display.

Thank goodness Schiff is on top of things. Also, I wonder how the initial change was discovered. Someone inside the WH is leaking...

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
39. Why has Nunes not been arrested?
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:55 PM
Jan 2018

I don't get why these people can just do anything they want with no consequences.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
44. CNN's Jeffrey Toobin, Senior Legal Analyst...
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:01 AM
Feb 2018

says this whole thing is simply "insanity" on the part of Nunes, Ryan, and the Republicans.

usaf-vet

(6,212 posts)
60. Is it possible Nunes watered down the version...
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:49 AM
Feb 2018

.... he put up for the committee vote. Knowing the true memo would not make it through the committee vote. AND the actual memo is the changes Schiff discovered tonight. Trump isn't the one being fooled. It's the GOP committee members that have been tricked by Nunes and Trump.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,468 posts)
62. With 35+% of Mericans behind whatever tRump
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 01:08 AM
Feb 2018

and the Repubs do I for one am not hopeful for our future.
Not giving up, but I do think it's going to take an
anti-Vietnam type nationwide movement to change things. Not going to happen by stern words on social media platforms, there's going to have to be some blood on the streets in my opinion.

wiley

(2,921 posts)
76. Both Nunes and Ryan must be tried for this crime.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 07:44 AM
Feb 2018

This has never happened before in the history of the US. The Democrats and Republicans both had access to classified information. They both created notes. They then voted to allow for the release of the Republican cherry picked ones. They did not vote for the Democrats to be released. That means every Democrat had the opportunity to review for security purposes and factual errors what is in the Republican memo. And they strenuously objected during committee. The CIA and the DOJ already know it is riddled with lies. And Trump can further redact whatever else he wants to fit his guilty paranoid narrative.The FBI nor the DOJ has not said the Democratic 11 page memo has a single inaccuracy or manipulated fact in it. The fact that Miller and other white house staff like fellow racist, white nationalist General Kelly worked on it with Trump is a full on admission of collusion, obstruction of justice and money laundering. Speaker Ryan will go to jail with them all.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
80. Is there any reason to believe that any version of something Nunes creates
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 11:40 AM
Feb 2018

has any validity at all?????

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