"I love getting lectured about patriotism and morality by draft dodging...."

[CousinIT]

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I love getting lectured about patriotism and morality by draft dodging uninformed racist reality show stars who collude with our enemies, obstruct Justice, undermine our institutions and pay hush money to porn stars. Don’t you?

[MoonRiver]

1. Perfect!

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[Odoreida]

3. Draft dodger here. I'm about to lecture you.

Yes Trump is total scum, but so what if he was a draft dodger?

So was I. Unlike Trump I was also an anti-war protestor.

Furthermore, as a political tactic calling "draft dodger" does not work any more. Period.

It didn't work in 1992 when the Republicans did it to Bill Clinton, and it didn't work when our side did it to Bush II.

So give the "draft dodger" thing a rest please.

[Left-over]

6. Call it what you like...

tRump was a chicken squat who bought his way out of what a poor man could not, and most would not, avoid.

[workinclasszero]

12. You got that right!

Trump's rich KKK lovin daddy greased some palms with $$$ to get Cadet Bone Spurs outta the draft.

All the working class guys I grew up with had no such escape opportunity.

[2left4u]

7. Agreed

As a Marine vet let me first say "Thank you for protesting".

Two kinds of veterans now evolve out of the conflicts that our country gets in:

One fights the fight where the nation sends them and the other fights the fight to bring the first one home.

I don't ever want to see this nation in a position where individuals don't fight to end the conflict and bring the troops home.

Both who participated in the above are veterans of sorts and are in different ways brothers and sisters born out of the same conflict.

All kinds of ways to support troops in a conflict...being the moral conscience of the nation working to shine light on the conflict and get the troops home is no less honorable than going and I for one thank you for fighting for us.

Thank you.

[redwitch]

24. Thank you!

Very heartening to hear you say this.

[TomSlick]

28. Retired Army guy here.

Hooah! Or the Marine version: Oorah!

[Paladin]

8. Lighten up, Francis.

When we're up against somebody like trump, we need to use all the weapons at our disposal. I protested the Vietnam War, loudly and often; proud to say so. But I have no qualms about using commander bone spur's history against him---the stakes are too high not to.

[democrank]

10. Couple thoughts, Odoreida....

I protested against the Vietnam War but supported the troops then and now. I've spent time with hundreds of Vietnam Vets and do everything I can to help them.

During the war I supported all those who had a religious or moral reason for avoiding the draft. What I didn't support then or now are the draft dodgers who got special treatment simply because of who they were and how much money and prestige their family had. Those people got special treatment, the kind of treatment my friends, with dads who worked in a paper mill, never got.

Just as maddening were the many instances in which these same draft dodgers would eagerly speak in favor others fighting in wars like the one they refused to fight. I call them the Barco-Lounger chicken hawks....like Dick Cheney, like Donald Trump, and many others. They can wave all the flags they want but they don't hold a candle to any name on The Wall....or any vet suffering in a VA hospital or in their private lives as I write.

Using the words "draft dodger" isn't a "political tactic", it's a perfect description of the war mongers who loved to talk tough about killing enemies as long as someone else did the fighting in their places.

I buried the ashes of my Vietnam Vet who suffered with Agent Orange brain cancer. He got drafted....and went because he had to....so Donald Trump, the draft dodger, could play tennis and Dick Cheney, another draft dodger, could hunt quails. Lucky them. They knew somebody who knew somebody.

[Victor_c3]

11. As a combat vet, I cant blame anyone for draft dodging

However, my distaste for draft dodgers arise when they assume hawkish positions in foreign diplomacy. If you can’t face combat, then don’t advocate to send others to face it.

Again, I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to face combat. War sucks.

[GallopingGhost]

13. +1000 n/t

[Elwood P Dowd]

18. +10,000

Same here. I was against the war but had no way out when drafted. Didn't have a rich daddy to grease the palms of doctors and draft board members to help me avoid the draft. And I damn sure didn't turn into some war loving fake patriot and hypocrite who is willing to put those less fortunate than himself into battle just to satisfy is on inflated ego. It's in that context that I call Trump a damn draft dodger.

[TomSlick]

29. As a non-combat (desk borne ranger)(REMF) veteran:

Hooah!

[Larrybanal]

16. me too BUT...

I too used a college deferment during viet nam and was part of the moratorium in 1970, BUT it is beyond the pale the degree to which trump used deferments and now as president keeps playing the total patriot...love the military...respect the flag bullshit when we all know he is a liar about everything...except his appreciation for ivanka

[markbark]

17. Yup. The term you're looking for is "Chicken Hawk"

%s:/draft dodger/chicken hawk/g

Chicken Hawk

[Odoreida]

23. I like this answer n/t

[bigbrother05]

20. I'll take an honest draft dodger over some rich kid whose daddy pulled strings

I was a lottery winner, #301, and dropped my student deferment.

Trump, W, Cheney, et al are chickenhawks who want to start a wars that someone else will have to fight.

W got into a plush NG slot then effectively deserted without any consequences.

btw - it only seems to work on someone like Kerry that served with distinction because he acts all snooty and speaks French

[Tarc]

27. "Unlike Trump I was also an anti-war protestor"

That's kinda the point.

I have nothing at all against draft avoidance, and if I'd bee around in the 60s I surely would have as well. When a conservative wingnut is criticized for draft-dodging, it has nothing really to do with the dodging itself, it is about the raging hypocrisy. They rant and rave and scream about honor and duty to country, blah blah, condemning liberals for not adhering to it, but then they bend over backwards to excuse their own (Trump, Rush, etc...)

It's the same thing with adultery, I was never really much concerned with Bill Clinton's affairs, that was an issue between him and Hillary to sort out. But I sure as hell reamed Newt Gingrich for banging one woman while serving divorce papers to his sick wife in the hospital, because he went on and on about "family values" that he himself did not possess at all.

See the difference here?

[czarjak]

31. W. didn't dodge the draft...

He dodged his duty to the Guard. Slight difference, huh?

[Skittles]

32. maybe CHICKEN HAWK is a better description

[FailureToCommunicate]

4. Great message!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

5. Cadet Bone Spurs

I'm pretty sure Sen. Duckworth hasn't taken out a trademark on "cadet bone spurs", so anyone can use it in political discourse.

[Ferrets are Cool]

9. I love this tweet

[oberliner]

14. Love the top response to that tweet

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Not sure that people got that joke/reference.

[tavernier]

33. TIME as opposed to TERM?

Took me a minute.

[Firestorm49]

15. Couldnt agree more.

And the other side thought Obama was bad?

[Cha]

22. The other side is Brainwashed by

by fox "news".. they let them do their thinking for them. And, they made sure they hated Presdient Obama.

"Tan Suit!!!!!1111"

[Rhiannon12866]

19. K&R! Perfectly stated!

[Cha]

21. Thank you, Bradley Whitford! Someone

had to say.. the M$M won't.

Thanks, IT

[Historic NY]

25. Not one member of his family from his service dodging granddaddy

to El Trumpo himself has ever served this nation. They all avoided service.

[Gothmog]

26. Great tweet

[syringis]

30. I can't help myself...

...thinking of Trump as the modern "Tartuffe".

An Impostor and an hypocrite as the character in the theatrical comedy written by Molière.

[Gothmog]

34. Here is another great tweet

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