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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey ALL took the dirty Russian money!
This is no Saturday Night Massacre. This is a Hail Mary to try to block the truth before it comes out.
The smart ones are retiring. The bold ones are making their play. This is desperation.
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underthematrix
(5,811 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)Why else would they be actively participating in the obstruction of justice unless they're covering up crimes that would get them more prison time than an obstruction charge?
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)exactly what is going on.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)to introduce these traitors to real justice.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... really really dirty since Bush 1 and Florida.
In my voting lifetime a plurality of Americans don't like what republicans are pushing so they had to cheat to remain
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They seem to realize that they are in trouble. It is all so out in the open. The only question that I have is when do the few not involved make a break.
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)in the crime and are guilty of abetting a crime, collusion, money laundering, and obstruction of justice themselves. Accepting dirty campaign money? Ryan, "We are one big family", etc. GUILTY!
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)For the good of the country, they could have declared themselves "Democrat" and provided the necessary balance this country needs to survive as a democracy.. At the end of the day, we have a Party that can't tolerate the only minimally corrupt. And these folks never had the character to every audition for "A Profile in Courage". Good, lets see the Republican Party further show their real identity.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)Maybe not this shit specifically, but when he asked Trump for an interview, he had to a constitutional crisis were a big risk. He knew Trump wanted to fire him.
There's no way Trump will submit to an interview, and there's no way Mueller would just go easy on him. This based on everything I know about Mueller.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)It really seems to be the only answer that makes sense. I'm not going with "vast right-wing conspiracy" about this. But, more the unwitting tools of the Russians in the moment and now scared out of their gourds because they realize what they did and how it looks now.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Hands down.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)We all knew Trump was a Constitutional crisis waiting to happen.
It might be game time.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)If you look at the behavior from that angle, everything starts to make sense, in its own wicked way. In order to get the party behind him, tRump arranged for quite a few of the Repubs to get an infusion of money in their coffers. That was the grand bargain. Let tRump run his way, the party endorsed him, he gets elected with assistance from the Russians and the politicians get money. So now they are up to their armpits in alligators. tRump is obviously doing some things they like but he is also an embarrassment to the US around the world. But they are stuck with him.
Their moves these past few weeks show signs of desperation. tRump is a loon. But he isnt so far out on a limb he cant plot and plan ways to save his sorry ass. He has tasked his lawyers with trying to find anything to get him off the hook for his crimes. In classic blackmail, the Republicans are caught in a trap because they made this bargain. Putin has tRump firmly in his grasp. tRump knows the truth about the Repubs. Aint nobody gonna spill the beans publically just yet because the whole scheme will collapse once people start squalling.
Flynn, Manafort, Page and Papadopoulis have done their singing to Mueller behind the scenes to save their sorry asses. Mueller probably has the whole thing figured out with undeniable truth. I hope he drops the hammer on all of them, but in the meantime, tRump thinks he can outfox everyone, including Putin.
If this was not so deadly serious, we could have some fun with possible scenarios how it ends. Unfortunately, it wont be easy or painless no matter how it all plays out.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)When will we ifigure that out? 45's supporters thought he would break that cycle, and instead, he's the tsunami of corruption.
We.Have.To.Get. Money.Out.Of.Politics.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)Below are the top 10 career recipients of N.R.A. funding through donations or spending to benefit the candidate among both current House and Senate members, along with their statements about the Las Vegas massacre. These representatives have a lot to say about it. All the while, they refuse to do anything to avoid the next massacre.
Senate
1. John McCain Ariz.
Cindy & I are praying for the victims of the terrible #LasVegasShooting & their families.
$7,740,521 - FROM THE N.R.A.
2. Richard Burr N.C.
My heart is with the people of Las Vegas and their first responders today. This mornings tragic violence has absolutely no place here in America.
$6,986,620 - FROM THE N.R.A.
3. Roy Blunt Mo.
Saddened by the tragic loss of life in #LasVegas. My thoughts are with all of the families affected by this horrific attack.
$4,551,146 - FROM THE N.R.A.
4. Thom Tillis N.C.
Susan and I send our deepest condolences and prayers to the families of the victims of this horrific and senseless tragedy in Las Vegas.
$4,418,012 - FROM THE N.R.A.
5. Cory Gardner Co.
My family and I are praying for the families of those injured and killed in Las Vegas last night.
$3,879,064 - FROM THE N.R.A.
6. Marco Rubio Fla.
Im praying for all the victims, their families, and our first responders in the #LasVegas #MandalayBay shooting.
$3,303,355 - FROM THE N.R.A.
7. Joni Ernst Iowa
My prayers are with all of the victims in Las Vegas, and their loved ones affected by this senseless act of violence.
$3,124,273 - FROM THE N.R.A.
8. Rob Portman Ohio
Jane & I mourn the loss of innocent lives in this horrific attack in Las Vegas last night. We are praying for those taken from us, their families & all those injured in this attack.
$3,061,941 - FROM THE N.R.A.
9. - Todd Young Ind.
We must offer our full support to the victims and their families as our nation mourns.
$2,896,732 - FROM THE N.R.A.
10. Bill Cassidy La.
Following closely the horrendous act of violence in Las Vegas. Our prayers are with those who were injured, killed and their families.
$2,861,047 - FROM THE N.R.A.
Ten highest house members --> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/opinion/thoughts-prayers-nra-funding-senators.html
Beware of the military/industrial complex! That kind of money can not be from member fees.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I suspect Ryan himself had a big helping of it.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Mike Niendorff
(3,462 posts)There's no way they can put this all back in the bottle. Waaaaaaaay too many people know. It's a question of when they're going down, not if.
MDN
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)The NRA / Foreign money story needs constant reporting because this is how you blackmail and purchase an entire government.
nightwing1240
(1,996 posts)Proof positive to me that they, the (R's) are all dirty
whathehell
(29,067 posts)do we have any actual documentation to back it up?
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)(I bolded the relevant text in the final tweet's "TEXT" rendition)
Link to tweet
TEXT
The Hoarse Whisperer @HoarseWisperer
Replying to @HoarseWisperer
Wray just screwed Trump so damn hard, it's gonna leave a mark... and Trump is too dumb to even realize he just got game-set-matched by an appointee who ain't having any of it.
Wray just stole Trump's talking points AND turned up the heat on him.
12/
The Hoarse Whisperer @HoarseWisperer
Even better, Bowditch's elevation entirely earns the trust of the rank and file FBI. They have now seen twice that Wray is on their side not Trump's.
Comey was their homey but now it's Wray all the way.
13/
9:33 PM - Jan 29, 2018
Link to tweet
TEXT
The Hoarse Whisperer @HoarseWisperer
Replying to @HoarseWisperer
Even better, Bowditch's elevation entirely earns the trust of the rank and file FBI. They have now seen twice that Wray is on their side not Trump's.
Comey was their homey but now it's Wray all the way.
13/
The Hoarse Whisperer @HoarseWisperer
The most delicious little morsel in this pie to the face is this though...
Chris Wray just sent a 90-decibel message right into Trump's earhole:
"Come after whoever you want. There are a million more behind 'em. There is no stopping the FBI."
So good. So damn good.
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9:33 PM - Jan 29, 2018