Concealed gun owner shoots own buttocks and wounds children at Dallas Walmart

[IDemo]

A licensed concealed handgun owner from Waco, Texas hurt more than his pride on Monday when his weapon accidentally discharged while he was reaching for his wallet at a Dallas Walmart store.

Police said that Todd Canady, 23, was in the checkout line when he fired the pistol he was carrying inside his pants.

“The bullet struck Canady in the buttock, then ricochet on the floor and broke into pieces,” KDFW reported. Two children and a woman were also wounded when they were struck by bullet fragments.

Other reports indicated that the bullet grazed Canady’s leg he when dropped the Springfield .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol. Shards of concrete from the floor were said to have caused the wounds to the woman and children.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/24/concealed-gun-owner-shoots-own-buttocks-and-wounds-children-at-dallas-walmart/

[randr]

1. I feel safer already just knowing he had a loaded gun in his pants.

[rustydog]

2. "Is that a loaded 40 in your pants or are you just glad to see me?"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

52. I loved those old Mae West movies!

[Thor_MN]

82. Is that a pistol in your pants or did you just crap them?

The Depends are in aisle 13, sir...

[Hoyt]

3. Why does anyone carry a gun into a crowded store? n/t

[permatex]

4. Because we can

We don't owe you a reason, It really is none of your business, and I say that quite cheerfully, not angry.

[Hoyt]

6. Maybe you ought to think of other people and not just yourself.

[permatex]

7. Were you thinking of other people when you were a robber?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=45338

[Hoyt]

15. Read that in context and quit saving my posts for your personal pleasure.

[permatex]

21. It's right there for all to see.

Maybe you should put it in context.

I didn't save it for personal pleasure, I went to the archives and lo and behold, there it was.

[HangOnKids]

30. Are you retired? No snark just a question.

Serious question, I have never seen somebody post 40+ posts a day every day on DU like you have. I must conclude you are retired and like to spend time here.

[permatex]

35. Yes

retired in 2002. I love spending time here. I know I get contentious at times but the 2A is a big deal for me, I'm not a single issue voter and I would never even think about voting for a repube, besides, Pres. Obama is much more 2A friendly than Rmoney will ever be.
I disagree with alot of folks here on the 2A but on just about everything else, I'm on board.
I grew up around firearms and have a deep respect for them and they are a lot of fun to shoot.
I'm really trying to tone it down some but I will not back down when I get called a gun nut, gun lover, apologist for the NRA etc, etc.

[Ikonoklast]

9. It is when innocent people are wounded by CCW idiots.

But it wasn't anyone you know or love that got hurt, so it's all good, right?

[permatex]

37. Yeah your right

I have no sympathy for the wounded or dead, I'm just an uncaring asshole, you found me out.

[Ikonoklast]

47. If you have done anything other, point me to it.

Just doing a rudimentary search of your posts, I haven't see one thing you've posted expressing sympathy for those dead or wounded from gun violence.

You can leave the sarcasm tag off of your reply.

[permatex]

50. Then you didn't search hard enough

as soon as I found out about Aurora, I posted my condolences for the victims and their families. I don't have to justify anything to you or anyone else here.
Oh look, here's one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117250952#post1

and another one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117252075#post10
and it only took me about 10 sec to find them,
But I know it won't be enough for you so, on that note, good evening to you.

[Ikonoklast]

73. You are as sincere and believable as Baghdad Bob.

This is tragic and my deepest condolences go out to the mother

and the relatives, however, what point are you trying to make? If it's about a gun being used to commit a horrendous shooting, what makes you think he wouldn't have killed his son and himself by other means if he didn't have a gun?

If your trying to equate gun owners with this guy, well then I say, epic fail.

Prayers to the victims and families.

couldn't wait to exploit a tragedy could you. Thats disgusting.

Just enough cover for the insensitivity. Good for you. Job well done.

[permatex]

78. Yeah you've got me all figured out

I'm just an insensitive jerk. Sleep well now that you've got me pegged.

[Ikonoklast]

81. One thing we are in agreement about.

And I never sleep.

[permatex]

84. Good

I'm happy beyond words that we agree on something.

[Surya Gayatri]

90. Unusual level of self-knowledge...sarcasm tag superfluous...

[permatex]

93. Oh goody

another one that thinks they have me all figured out. Whatever will I do now?

[DevonRex]

12. How does a person post 1257 times since June 27th?

[permatex]

22. I'm retired

but why should it matter?

[DevonRex]

25. I don't work either.

[permatex]

39. Retired or not able to find a job?

Really none of my business, just asking.

[DevonRex]

100. Buh bye. So sad. Not

[tularetom]

16. Of course you can and I would defend your right to do so

I mean that quite sincerely.

I don't care if you carry a firearm into church or whatever.

And I hope you never are compelled to use it.

But don't be pissed off if I chuckle a bit when you shoot yourself in the ass.

[permatex]

26. It could happen

but the chances are very small, I've handled firearms all my life.
I don't go to church but even if I did, I probably wouldn't carry it there, being a place of God and all.
I sincerely hope I never have to use it either.
Thank you for defending my right to carry according to the laws of NV.

I don't plan to carry all the time, just when I go into the big city or out to the Lake or Colorado River.

[DocMac]

33. Why don't you just pack your shit up?

You're just gonna get sick. Save yourself and save us...from bullshit.

[permatex]

41. What did I do to you

to deserve this?

[DocMac]

49. You have given the people here a steady

stream of bullshit. Why don't you just tell us want the hell you want?

Tell us how you feel about healthcare. Tell us how you feel about the defense budget. Tell us how you feel about the global health. Tell us about your concerns on women's rights. Tell us how you feel about native Americans, and their rights. Tell us how we can save our homes. Tell us how to avoid the Fascism that is about to overwhelm us.

Tell us what you want us to hear!!

On edit: who cares.

[permatex]

62. All right

I support the ACA although I was hoping for single payer, I want the wars to end, reduce the defense budget and use the savings to rebuild the infrastructure and social programs, I believe woman deserve the same pay as a man for the same job, I support gay marriage/gay rights, I haven't really gotten into the Native American issues, I support using some of the savings on defense to help homeowners who are in foreclosure through no fault of their own, We need to rebuild our inner citys, end the war on drugs and legalize them, quit being the world's policeman, we can't afford it.
A constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United.

Just because I support the 2A doesn't mean what you think it means
I support all rights, I don't pick and choose.

[DocMac]

66. I appreciate the response, and that is no small matter.

We have been through this gun matter before. You're smart enough to know how delicate this is. Don't just take one side without considering the other.

I don't want your hand guns, but i'll take those AR-15's in a second.

A .308 is all you need, my friend. You know this is true.

[permatex]

69. I realize it's a contencious subject

and I have been toning it down, I do enjoy shooting my AR-15, I also own a MAK-90 which is a semi auto clone of the AK-47. I do keep all of my firearms in 2 heavy duty safes that is bolted to my garage floor with an alarm system on the safes themselves and the garage has a separate alarm w/battery backup. I have appox $60.000 worth of firearms I collected over appox 30 years. They are a good investment monetarily and I take safe storage to another level.
I do support safe storage laws, mandatory liability insurance for gun owners, I have that as a rider to my home policy. I also think that every state should have what IL has, a FOID card, in IL, if you don't have one you can't even touch a firearm,
I think that all firearms transactions should have a background check, right now, it is illegal for a private seller to access the NICS do to background checks, so I believe that the NICS should be opened up to private sellers with a small fee charged to the buyer and a sale/no sale system.
I'm not one of these no restrictions extremists, I so support some gun control laws.

[DocMac]

74. I do appreciate your honesty.

And I can say that your response was a very good one. Actually, i'm near shock.

I do hope that you help people...knowing what you know and the skills you have. And the tools you have.

That must be a burden.

[permatex]

86. I try

but when I get called names like gun nut, gun lover, gun hoarder, apologist for the NRA, all gun owners have blood on their hands, gun religionists, etc, etc. it gets hard to stay civil and I lost my cool a few time, but I'm toning it down. Here's a pm I got from someone who didn't appreciate me saying that I was going to fight for my 2A rights, somehow he took it as a threat of violence.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117252888#post22

Needless to say, I alerted to the admins on that one.
Look, I know that there are extremists on both ends of the gun debate, I don't deny that, hell, I was one. But I'm also a critical thinker, at least I try to be.

Listening to some Dire Straits-Live right now, awesome band.

[Tsiyu]

31. It certainly became the business of the other shoppers mighty quick

so saying "it's none of your business" seems rather sociopathic - as in lacking the empathy to think of others besides oneself - in this context.

The children who were harmed were involved pretty intimately in this dumbass's "business."

Oh, right, just collateral damage. As long as HIS rights are kept paramount, who cares who the fuck gets shot just going to the store to pick up milk and bread? How stupid to care about those injured by this idiot! Why, he shouldn't even have to pay their medical bills, either. Make the store do that, because he needs the $$$$ to get a bigger clip!

But selfishness is the American way these days, so carry on! ( Pun intended )

[permatex]

44. That idiot is not indicitive of most CCP holders

and it has nothing to do with me, he will lose his CCP and rightly so.
Concealed means nobody sees it so why would anyone worry about what they don't know about?
If your equating me to that idiot makes you sleep better at night, then knock yourself out.

[Tsiyu]

54. "Why would they worry about what they don't know about?"

Hmmmm....well, in this case, what these shopper didn't know about DID hurt them.

Because their lives were put in danger by this "rugged individualist" mindset.

You can't have it both ways.

If you carry, it is EVERYONE's business in the vicinity where you are. But you know that, or you are being purposefully obtuse.

"Not indicative" of most CCP holders is not the point. Unless you are some superhero, your CC weapon is not immune to failure or theft. Anyone around you can be injured or killed by your weapon. It's not a squirt gun but a killing machine. Not your personal toy but a potentially lethal device.

It may be a risk our society is willing to take to make you feel all warm and safe buying your cream of wheat and prune juice at Wally World, but it IS A RISK we must all be aware of.

It is everyone's business when you carry. Tough shit if you don't like that reality.

[Surya Gayatri]

88. +1,000 !

[Shadowflash]

106. VERY well put!

+1000!

[kestrel91316]

42. You'll find out just how much other people's business it isn't

the first time you have an unfortunate mishap with it.

People carry loaded guns around for the same sorts of reasons they drive Hummers, IMHO.

[permatex]

45. Who says I'm going to have a mishap with it?

Is that what your hoping for? Go ahead, knock yourself out

[Surya Gayatri]

89. The guy at Wallmart probably justified himself

with the same pathetic self-delusions.

Unlike all those other assholes out there, HE was sure he'd NEVER have a mishap, read near lethal incident.

Look how that turned out.

[permatex]

94. I'm sure thats been said about millions of people

who got in car accidents. I really don't care what you think about my pending CCP, I'm still going to CC when I feel it's necessary.

[Skittles]

38. NRA WET DREAM

EVERYONE ARMED, ALL THE TIME

[ManiacJoe]

53. Because leaving it in the car ...

"Why does anyone carry a gun into a crowded store?"

Because leaving it in the car would be irresponsible due to theft.

[permatex]

5. And here is a citizen with a CCP doing it right

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=50652

[Hoyt]

10. Another guy with a gun shooting people in back as they flee, not to

mention putting innocent bystanders at risk. Haven't even mentioned indirect adverse impact of his actions.

Anyway the fool carrying in Walmart wasn't protecting anyone but his sorry rear and it backfired. I guess he's a graduate of NRA safety training.

[permatex]

28. Yeah sure Hoyt

[Tsiyu]

34. Yeah sure, permatex

Saying "it's nobody's business" is the definition of a sociopath. Do you not see that?

We are not all "rugged individualists" living in goddamned caves or tents in the desert. We live in communities, and in order for those communities to be healthy, safe, prosperous places, we must be concerned with the rights and safety of all people - not merely ourselves.

Is it "nobody's business" if I know I am carrying a very contageous disease - like a horrific flu - into a public space? It's certainly my right to go into The Piggly Wiggly with a raging influenza and a high fever and the ability to infect everyone shopping near me. There's not really any law against it.

But it would take a pretty selfish, sociopathic fucker to do so. Or a dumbass.



Same with guns. You can't have it both ways - enjoy the benefits of society but give not a crap about anyone's rights but your own. The minute you bring that weapon into a public space where others may be harmed, that gun becomes the business of every person there.

No way around that.

You haven't answered me above, so I can only assume that you are doing a little soul searching and you've realized that only a really selfish jerk would say "It's nobody's business" in this situation.

Those injured little kids would beg to differ with your assessment of just whose business it is

[permatex]

46. Yep you figured me out

I'm all that and more.

[Tsiyu]

57. If you say so

i'm certainly inclined to believe you, Mr. Nobody'sBidnessButMaOwn






And innocent children getting shot is absolutely hilarious, ain't it? Woo-hoo!

[permatex]

63. Yeah you've got me all figured out

I'm an uncaring person. If that makes you sleep better at night, then you have my permission to think of me that way.

[DemocratsForProgress]

75. Wow, that just totally makes THIS stupid incident AOK, then.

Thanks for sharing.

[permatex]

80. Where did I say that?

No it doesn't make this incident AOK, the idiot should have his CCP yanked for life and be charged for reckless endangerment.

[elleng]

8. What a great idea,

get a permit to CONCEAL YOUR LOADED FIREARM IN YOUR PANTS, and bring it to a STORE, that's INTERSTATE COMMERCE!

GODDAMN!
('sorry' for rant, but not really sorry. this is INSANE!)

[TreasonousBastard]

11. So, when you shoot your own ass, did you...

shoot in your ass, out your ass, or shoot your ass off?

This is important to know.

[IDemo]

19. There was a brain injury involved, regardless

[Aerows]

13. I thought every gun was subject

to a drop test to prevent them from firing when dropped.

[ileus]

23. He probably tried to catch it and instead

stuck his finger in the trigger guard on the way down....don't ever try and catch a pistol if you drop it.


I wrecked on my road bike a few years back right in the middle of the road when one of my kids stopped suddenly in front of me. There was a car coming so I jumped up quick, my 9c had come out of its holster and drifted up my shirt and I grabbed at it to catch it when I stood up. Only after catching it did I realize what I'd done. Let the fucker fall it'll be ok is what I learned. I also tightened up the retention and have since changed the way I carry when I ride my bike. Nothing worse than going down on a chunk of steel on your hip at least it sounds painful.

[StrictlyRockers]

61. You seriously carry a gun with you when you ride your bike?

Why does this sound insane to me??

[ileus]

95. 15,20 even 40 miles

I've never had a problem with carrying an extra 15 oz of firearm. I figure if I lose 1lb during the off season I've got the weight of the firearm covered.

I have moved to an off the body carry method while riding now.

[obamanut2012]

97. I usually do when I go trailrunning

And I have had to use it, too. Many feral pigs in this area.

[ileus]

101. I don't know about running with a gun that sounds dangerous.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. What a doofus

he was probably playing with himself and missed a stroke.

[ileus]

17. OWB for me...

Sometimes I pocket carry my LCP, but all my larger pistols are carried in proper OWB leather or kydex holsters on my side. Most of the time I carry my LCP in a little fobus holster.

Safety first, shoot yourself in the ass later I always say.

[Alduin]

18. Knowing that guy had a gun in Walmart makes me feel safe to shop there.

[permatex]

48. All the stores in my town, including Walmart

don't care if you OC or CC. No problems so far. No shootouts at the checkstands, no shootouts at the deli, no negligent discharges, nothing.

[Alduin]

68. I only shop in places that don't allow guns on the premises.

That makes me feel safe.

[permatex]

70. Thats your right and I fully support that right

In my little town, the only place thats off limits to guns are the county govt buildings, everywhere else, the town office, town board meetings, every business, allows the carrying of firearms, theres been no problems at all and thats the way we like and want it.

[Alduin]

77. Town meetings in a town hall can get heated...

and you guys like having the guns around during those meetings? That seems like a ticking time bomb. I wouldn't like that at all.

[permatex]

83. There are always two Sheriff's Deputies on scene and the Sheriff's Office is about

a mile from the Town Hall. Been going to the meetings since 2004 and so far no incidents.

See, I'm not so unreasonable.

[tiny elvis]

92. i stand with holmes, loughner and permatex

reasonable
your right is my right

[permatex]

96. Oh goody

another one. I'm impressed.

[pintobean]

20. An asshole with 2 assholes.

[IDemo]

24. He's now entitled to hold two contradictory opinions simultaneously and argue with himself

Hopefully while unarmed!

[Brigid]

27. If I am ever injured by a bullet fragment . . .

Because some idiot's CCW went off, I will sue said idiot until he's living in a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere.

[permatex]

64. And rightly so

and they will lose their CCP as an added bonus.

[Logical]

98. LOL, how are you magically going to make a jury give you that much....

money for a little cut on your leg? You are funny.

[Brigid]

103. I wouldn't even have to win.

I get a lawyer to take the case on a contingency basis, and the said idiot goes broke defending it. If it happened in this state, he'd be better off if he killed me, because I have no dependents (cats don't count) to sue him for loss of financial support.

[gopiscrap]

29. This is what happens in a society

that allows guns everywhere!

[TalkingDog]

32. I wonder if he blew his brains out?

n/t

[VOX]

67. It was close, doctors are still checking...

There's a problem because the brain involved is/was so miniscule, actually tinier than the guy's weenie.

[kestrel91316]

36. Damn. Missed his nads.

[sadbear]

71. I'm guessing those were easy to miss.

[Skittles]

40. what a man

wounds a child, then RUNS

[WorseBeforeBetter]

59. Idiotic AND cowardly, but hey, one of those responsible, licensed...

gun owners I keep hearing so much about.

[Skittles]

60. well

I actually do know gun owners in Texas who actually are responsible; the Walmart guy definitely falls into the gun nuttery crowd

[kentuck]

43. Did he order it in a box with ACME printed on the side?

[permatex]

65. With this pic on the front

[Taverner]

51. Wait - didn't someone here say guns don't accidentally discharge?

? ? ?

[Union Scribe]

79. They do not. But they do discharge from negligence.

Essentially all such "accidents" should have been avoided.

[tiny elvis]

91. i axidentlied my gun

95 times

[ManiacJoe]

55. So, how poor was this holster he was using?

He was using a holster, right?

[backscatter712]

104. I suspect not.

That's one thing I was taught - never stuff a gun in your pants, use a holster!

[madinmaryland]

56. Hopefully he "Darwinized" himself. Don't need dumbasses like that reproducing.

[klook]

58. "Felony injury to a child" -- no biggie

Just part of the price of being free, I guess.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

72. Yea, but no video? In contrast, check out this one involving a gun-safety instructor.

Start at 0:40 and continue through 0:56 et seq.

&feature=player_detailpage

No matter what happens, you have to admit that this guy is a man. First he boasts that he is the only one in the room who is an expert with a Glock .40. Then, after he shoots himself in the foot, he pretends that it doesn't hurt. Or at least for a while.

Incidentally, the "Dumbass DEA Agent" heading was added by the Youtube poster, not me.

[bitchkitty]

76. Too bad he didn't shoot his dick off.

Hopefully he will not reproduce. The world has enough stupid fucks to last this lifetime.

[JoeInNy]

85. Just a simple thumb safety or grip safety and this would have never happened.

When I read this story I automatically thought Glock because they don't have thumb or grip safeties. But a Springfield. What a surprise.
T
his proofs that not everybody should be carrying.

He will definitely be punished accordingly because in Texas it's illegal to shoot inside any city limits and your life not be in eminent danger.
Very serious punishable crime over there.

[gopiscrap]

87. Guns, Dallas and Wal Mart

wow all in the same sentance....no wonder it happened!

[_ed_]

99. He should go to prison and lose his right

to own a gun forever. Want to carry a gun around because you're a scared little man? Fine, the consequences should fit.

[SirRevolutionary]

102. If his buttocks were armed

this never would have happened.

[Raine1967]

107. ^^ DUZY! ^^

perfect response.

Welcome to DU, Sir.

[SirRevolutionary]

108. It was just waiting there to be said

Been here forever actually, but I'm still quite the lurker. Thanks for the encouragement though

[Larkspur]

105. I hope this guy gets sued for negligence

by the people he wounded.