WTH.......2 new refrigerators on Air Force One costs HOW MUCH???

[a kennedy]

https://globalnews.ca/news/3991115/refrigerators-air-force-one/

[RKP5637]

1. A total WTF! n/t

[gibraltar72]

2. They're very nice.

[shraby]

3. How much do you suppose will go into trumps pocket?

[mercuryblues]

4. the kicker is

AF 1 is about to be replaced. We get to pay 24 million just before the plane is decommissioned. trump is so thrifty.

[CurtEastPoint]

5. I read they are refrigs designed to hold 3000 meals so not yours and my kind of fridge.

But 24M? Meh.

[Generic Brad]

6. Aren't they replacing Air Force One soon too?

If so, wouldn't repairing the refrigerators have been a little more practical?

[unc70]

17. Replacements not for 8-10 years

[unblock]

7. Why do they need to be able to refrigerate 3,000 meals???

[rogue emissary]

10. He plans to pull a Snowden???

[unblock]

16. Af1 needs to be functional airborne for weeks in the event of a nuclear emergency.

Note that it can also be refueled midair.

I get all that.

But that doesn’t mean we have to pay for an unlikely scenario and to make sure they eat *well*.

They can eat mre’s, canned food, etc.

[rogue emissary]

22. I know.

Donny announced canceling the Boeing contract around December of '16. It's why Obama's administration probably ordered new planes and why Donny's an idiot. By the time they upgrade the older planes, they'll probably eclipse the 4 billion cost for the new planes.

[Marie Marie]

15. Because Donnie gets hungry.

And those KFC buckets take up a lot of room.

[NickB79]

19. Nuclear war.

[unblock]

20. See post #16. Yes, but they can eat other things.

It’s an unlikely contingency scenario. We don’t need to spend millions so a few people can eat especially well.

[FSogol]

47. That's a lot of Big Macs!

[Xipe Totec]

8. Well, technically AF-1 is two aircraft so it's 4 new refrigerators

Due to the fact that Air Force One is a one-of-a-kind aircraft, many of its components require unique testing by the Federal Aviation Administration and the cost of the testing is included in the price of the component, in this case refrigerators. The $24 million contract will cover the costs of engineering support services for the new chillers -- including prototype design, manufacturing and installation, according to the DOD contract.

"The units and associated aircraft structural modifications are being specially designed to provide nearly 70 cubic feet of temperature-controlled (refrigeration/freezer) storage to support on-board personnel for an extended period of time, without having to restock while abroad," Stefanek told CNN.
"The engineering required to design, manufacture, conduct environmental testing and obtain Federal Aviation Administration certification are included in the cost," she said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/air-force-one-refrigerator-contract-boeing/index.html

[lapfog_1]

12. 70 cu ft is not actually all that large

7-foot tall x 5-foot wide x 2-foot deep ( for example ).

[smirkymonkey]

9. Yeah! I would think that would be the price of the fucking plane.

Not 2 refrigerators in Fat Fuks flying machine. What on earth are those things made of? $24 million effing dollars? I mean, WTF? How is that possible?

[kacekwl]

33. Be nice to know

who exactly who got the bloated contract for this AND who approved it.

[smirkymonkey]

40. Boeing got the contract.

Not sure who approved it. Nice work if you can get it.

[kacekwl]

57. My guess Boeing pocketed 20 million

2 million went to political "donation" 2 million to do the job.

[rzemanfl]

11. Mexico will pay for them.

[LuckyCharms]

13. You don't understand. They're the stainless steel ones.

[Ilsa]

35. LOL. Yeah gotta have SS, Or no deal! nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

41. So they're replacing the ones with Avocado paint? Excellent!

[FSogol]

48. The stainless steel kind that doesn't leave fingerprints!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. Meh. Stainless steel shows fingerprints and magnets don't stick to it.

[unc70]

14. Remember AF1 is a military command center

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It carries provisions for all personnel and passengers for about three weeks. With midair refueling, it can remain airborne that entire time. Everything on board has to be hardened for radiation and EMP blasts. AF1 only looks like a 747. It is far different.

[oneshooter]

18. There are 2 AF1 aircraft.

Both started as a reinforced frame Boeing 747's

Then after 2 years of modification and testing they become AF1.

[hunter]

24. As others have noted, as well as myself, let them eat MRE if everything turns to shit.

Whoever is up there will probably deserve it.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal,_Ready-to-Eat

What would you like for dinner, Mr. President, the beef teriyaki or the meatloaf with gravy?

[Ilsa]

36. You know, we'd all have to put up with more tweets if

DOTUS ate that. He'd spend more time on the toilet, straining, (I'm waiting for that stroke and how Sarah Huckabee Sanders will cover it in the briefing) giving his fingers a workout.

[kacekwl]

34. Nonsense , sounds like a used car sales pitch.

If you get the rustproofing and the paint protection package......

[appleannie1943]

21. tRump probably ordered them in gold.

[VMA131Marine]

23. The responses in this thread are ridiculous

You can't just go to Home Fricking Depot and buy four fridges for AF1, which will serve other Presidents after fatboy Trump. Anything going on an aircraft has to be designed and tested to survive in that environment (+2.8 g / -1g), meet durability requirements, not be a fire hazard, be hardened against EMP, etc. And they're only building 4. A refrigerator for your home will cost millions too if it's only one of four built because design and engineering will comprise most of the cost.

[hunter]

25. Shelves would be less expensive.

As I posted above, MRE.

[A HERETIC I AM]

27. Correct, and well said.

These two aircraft were delivered to the 89th Airlift Wing at Andrews in 1990, and the chillers are therefore almost 28 years old.

It should be noted that the 89th is a completely professional and completely a-political unit of the United States Air Force and this is most likely a procurement item that has been in the works for quite some time. Suggesting for one second that the purchasing of this very basic and frankly vital equipment is in any way BECAUSE of Trump is absurd.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. Don't harden it against EMP to save space money on the microwaves.

But I hear you.

I doubt very much trump had anything to do with the refrigerators.

But President Obama was correct in saying they would have impeached him over this.

So fuck the repigs. It's their time "in the barrel" as they like to say.

[NurseJackie]

37. It seems odd that Obama would actually say such a thing. That would be out-of-character for him.

But President Obama was correct in saying they would have impeached him over this.

It seems odd that Obama would actually say such a thing. That would be out-of-character for him.

Was this part of an interview? He's usually much more thoughtful and introspective when it comes to things like that.

Maybe it was it overheard when he was speaking privately to someone else?

[George II]

45. As noted in the article, an adviser to Obama, Eric Schultz, said that. Not Obama.

[NurseJackie]

50. You're correct. Obama did NOT say that. It's definitely not Obama's style to say things like that.

Link to tweet

Eric Schultz?
Verified account @EricSchultz

Eric Schultz Retweeted The Hill

we would have been impeached

[George II]

53. Yes, and of course he said that facetiously.

[George II]

43. Obama never said that.

[Me.]

46. Actually, It Wasn't PBO Who Said That

“A senior adviser to former President Obama on Friday mocked reports that replacing the Air Force One refrigerators will cost $24 million, saying Obama "would have been impeached" over it.

“We would have been impeached,” Eric Schultz, a former White House deputy press secretary, said.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/370979-obama-aide-we-would-have-been-impeached-for-spending-24m-to

[NurseJackie]

52. It would have shown poor judgement if Obama had actually said something like that...

... Obama is MUCH SMARTER than people give him credit for. He's definitely NOT as "stupid" or myopic and shortsighted as some would try to make him out to be.

[Me.]

54. Quite

[Eliot Rosewater]

59. You doubt very much chief traitor had "anything" to do with it?

I would like more details about that actually.

Since the cost is absurd and ridiculous, I would suspect he would have been very involved or at least did not kill the idea when he heard it the way Obama likely would have or at least demanded a cheaper way.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

60. Well you've got yourself a Sunday project. Research it and let us know.

Thanks in advance!

[Eliot Rosewater]

61. You are the one who claimed that he had nothing to do with it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

62. You are the one who claimed you wanted to know more about it. Knockyerself out.

I agree with the posters upthread who say these things are usually in the works for years in advance and that the Airlift Command is pretty apolitical.

I remember the brouhaha ove the $11billion helicopter deal that was started years before Obama even took office but the repigs used it to bash Obama as if he was the person who placed the order. He cancelled it.

So yeah, I doubt Mango Mussolini had anything to do with it. But I'm not married to that idea.

And I'm all for using it to bash Trump over the head with this issue whether he is involved or not. Like I said, "it's his turn in the barrel." Though that jagoff will probably double the order and his trumpanzee fans will howl with glee and shake their cages "durrrrr like a boss!!!!"

[ehrnst]

65. No, he didn't say that.

Facts matter, and getting them straight is important.

Especially about Democratic leaders.

[Hortensis]

66. Yes. Came back to find Trump's refrigerator was twisted

into an attack on Obama. Am I going to come back again and learn Obama really is hiding in he walls of the Oval Office after all? Good grief.

[George II]

42. That's simply not true. I worked in the aerospace industry for 16 years supplying components....

....to both Boeing and Airbus and virtually every airline in the world.

What you're saying might be true if there was never a refrigerator manufactured and installed on an aircraft. They've been on aircraft for decades, including 747s. Don't forget, the original 747s had a lounge on the upper level complete with full bar and refrigerators.

These are merely UPgrades of the existing units (and only two of the five) $23 million for upgrades is ludicrous.

[VMA131Marine]

58. Comparing commercial procurement to military

Especially when we're talking AF1 or one of the Presidential helicopters is going to lead you to wrong conclusions. I currently work in the aerospace industry on the military side, I have a friend who works on the rotor blades for the HMX-1 Sea Kings that serve as Marine One. Every person who touches a component going on a Presidential aircraft has to be cleared to do so. Every component has to be handled in isolation from components not destined for a presidential aircraft and tracked from manufacture to installation. You're not so much paying $24 M for 4 fridges as the assurance that they meet specs and haven't been tampered with along the way.

[George II]

63. If it's being manufactured by a FAA approved and certified company (most likely a Boeing...

...subcontractor) all the infrastructure, employees, and inspection procedures are already in place. We're talking about refrigerators inside the cabin, not rotor blades that will lift an aircraft.

[VMA131Marine]

64. The military has its own requirements and inspectors

The FAA doesn't get involved in certification of military aircraft. And again, everyone associated with parts associated with the Presidential aircraft has to be cleared to work on them.

[wcmagumba]

26. The design...

probably includes Kelly Ann's hidden surveillance cameras and listening devices,
like her microwave oven...

[Wounded Bear]

30. GMTA, see post #29...nt

[Submariner]

28. Getting AF-1 ready for pre-midterm N Korea invasion

in case AF-1 has to stay airborne avoiding radiation bursts.

[Wounded Bear]

29. Half that cost was to remove the cameras and microphones...

and disable the scanners.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

32. They're expensive because they're buying the refrigerators at Best Buy instead of Costco.

When I was in the Air Force, we used to keep the frozen king crab legs we picked up in Alaska in the wheel wells of our C141s. The temperature at altitude was -50 degrees, which worked real well. It was a great idea until we had to spend an hour in a low altitude holding pattern in South Carolina during the summer.

[NewJeffCT]

38. The reason for the cost is very simple

Don Jr and Eric went to Wal-Mart and bought 2 "Great Value" brand refrigerators for $1,000 apiece. They then took off the Great Value label and put Trump Refrigeration on them and sold them to the government for $12 million each.

[demmiblue]

39. Heh!

[Buns_of_Fire]

44. You don't want Comrade President to drink warm Diet Coke, do you? nt

[FSogol]

49. How much would it cost to build a secure flying McDonalds?

[Canoe52]

55. Ive got a fridge in my garage Ill donate for free

It needs work, but while fixing it I’m sure they can make the appropriate modifications!

[WhiteTara]

56. 12 million each is really stiff.

But I was thinking about the engineering that must go into something like that. It has to be light enough, can't pull too much power, must accomodate precise temperature on the ground and in the air while being large enough to hold 3000 full meals. Quite a feat.

But 24million would pay for a lot of other things. Too bad they gave all our money away already.