Anyone else checking out the Van Jones Show on CNN?

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I am extremely impressed. Maybe the most interesting thing on CNN since the Tiannamin square protests. His guest, Jay-Z, blew me away. I confess to having not known much about him previously.

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1. Adding a couple of links from CNN

Jay-Z: #MeToo "had to happen"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/us/jay-z-metoo-cnntv/index.html

Jay-Z slams Trump's 'shithole' comment as 'hurtful'
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/us/jay-z-van-jones-on-trump-cnntv/index.html

[applegrove]

2. Yes. Jay Z is impressive as is Van. I hope he manages to get into the GOP

bubble and wake some people up before it is too late for them and everyone else. He is on a mission for sure. I will delete my OP.

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4. Great to hear Van in an extended format

The panel discussions do not lend themselves, to say the least, to much subtlety or nuance, and I think both showed not only real intelligence, but more importantly, humanity. Truly inspiring stuff.

[cwydro]

3. No thanks.

I don’t need to hear how “presidential” assrump is - once was enough.

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7. I'm afraid that I'm ignorant of the context of this remark

But, no matter, to each their own.

[applegrove]

9. Dems and republicans jump all over Jones. Dems because when Trump

read a speech at the State of the Union last year Van said he was acting presidential. Republicans hate him because he is another Obama and could change the heart of the base if they enjoy Van's creativity, nuance and compassion. They might get over their racism. Racism is a garden that the GOP must tend and protect. Van crosses lines.

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12. Yes, the old divide & conquer

And purists of all stripes tend to rub me the wrong way.

[cwydro]

17. When 45 made some speech or another,

I’ve forgotten which speech - Van Jones gushed how “presidential” he was.

I’m sure you could find the clip somewhere.

At any rate, it disgusted me. I had been a fan until that point.

[hatrack]

28. "He became President of the United States at that moment, period."

I particularly enjoyed to Sean Spicer tribute.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/01/donald-trump-congress-address-navy-seal-widow-van-jones-bts.cnn

[HipChick]

5. Jay-Z is very smart..

His voice never seems to match...

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10. I'm not sure what you mean by this comment

Are you talking his singing voice? If so, I can't comment. I've made a note to ask my teenage sons to play a few choice cuts.

[HipChick]

11. He's a rapper, I'm not referring to his musical ability..

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13. Right,even I knew that

Just misused "sing", instead of rap, which I confess to not being, in general, too fond of. Though I've recently been introduced to Chance the Rapper, who's got some pieces I can dig.

[LuvLoogie]

14. Warning: explicit lyrics;patriarchal themes and imagery-- but a classic. I like Eminem a lot, too.

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16. Yeah, thanks, but isn't my jam

I know it's part of the genre, but i can live w/o all the bitches & ho's rap. He seemed a lot more, what? Enlightened, maybe evolved, in the interview w/ Van Jones.

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19. Here's a Chance tune my son turned me onto

Chance the Rapper - Same Drugs (Official Video)

[JI7]

6. Nope, would rather watch people who go after trump

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8. I take it from this, and a previous poster's response

that Mt Jones has not shown sufficient anti-Trump zeal for some. That's news to me. He strikes me as a strong voice of color, unfortunately, something of a rarity.

[JI7]

15. There are many strong voices of color like angela rye on cnn but when it comes

To going after trump van Jones isn't one of them. Neither is David axelrod and those two were supposed to be the main dem voices on cnn during the campaign.

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18. Ok, but to me he attempted a nuanced tack

I recall seeing his "presidential" remark at the time, and I think he meant Trump looked just looked the part, not that he agreed w/ him in policy or performance. I agree, Angela's another strong voice.

[Mr.Bill]

20. I don't see he he could "look the part"

with that circus clown hairdo.

[Skittles]

22. it was completely unnecessary, and very bad judgement

fuck that shit

[Skittles]

21. is that the guy who swooned over Turmp's SOTU speech

[MR. ELECTABLE]

23. Van Jones is a complete phony

Here is a video of him praising Trump at the last state of the union and calling it one of the most extraordinary moments in American politics:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/01/politics/van-jones-trump-congress-speech-became-the-president-in-that-moment-cnntv/index.html

Nobody would say something like this unless they had no real convictions and were being influenced to push the GOP lies. He figured most people would be stupid enough to buy into it just like they did with W.

[Skittles]

24. then Van Jones was made to look like a fool when Trump kept it up for all of one week

Van Jones and Trump are both fucking idiots

[Gabi Hayes]

25. Yep

Huckster, out for himself

Just like......JZ?

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

26. Ha!!! Republican Playbook Post

You make a damning claim, then you make a statement and couch the "statement" in the form of a question.

I'm catching on to this politics thing.

JayZ has given relentlessly to progressive causes, and his dedication to helping the DEM base (Black women) is unmatched and unquestionable. Whether is is out for himself or not, we see the result of his hard work and community centers and inner city schools - places many of us here want focus on til election time.

[Gabi Hayes]

30. So hes not a huckster, eh?

http://www.vulture.com/2013/07/complete-list-of-every-product-endorsed-by-jay-z.html

You’re not catching on to this reading comprehension thing very well, though, are you?

Did I denigrate his charitable work?

Does that make him any less a.....

Huskster?

Haaaaaaa

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

39. Catching on to it enough to just understand your drivel

The answer is, "Yes," by the way. His charitable work does determine how he should be perceived.

Your citing a list without commentary of it is just as silly as your posing your statement as a question earlier.

That tactic comes from the same playbook.

[Tavarious Jackson]

32. V janes had a platform 2016

He used it to tell everyone he was voting for Jill Stein. I will never watch

[Skittles]

33. what the FUCK does JZ have to do with Van Jones being a fucking tool?

[Gabi Hayes]

34. He was his guest

He’s a huckster

Check the link provided for free

Mmmkay?

[Skittles]

35. WHO CARES who is GUESTS are?

VAN JONES IS A FUCKING TOOL who SWOONED over an INCOMPETENT BUFFOON

[Gabi Hayes]

37. Couldnt agree more

Doesn’t say much for the quality of anyone who appears on his shitshow

Look who goes on Hannity

Just sayin

[doodsaq]

27. Van Jones is a moron.

[oberliner]

29. Van Jones on Trump: 'He became President of the United States in that moment, period'

"He became President of the United States in that moment, period," said Jones, after the evening's most emotional point was replayed by CNN's Anderson Cooper.

"That was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics," Jones added.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/van-jones-trump-congress-speech-became-the-president-in-that-moment-cnntv/index.html

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40. I want to apologize to the assembled choir here

Clearly, I missed (or forgot) the memo on Mr Jones, that he has been deemed have insufficiently adhered to the accepted dogma of our group. I will exercise more circumspection in the future before suggesting that he may still have something worth listening to, at least in these parts.

A thousand pardons.

[oberliner]

41. Van Jones has had some great insights

I like hm a lot generally, but that moment was pretty lame.

Just wanted to provide the context for what folks were referencing with him.

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43. Fair enough

So you know, I had intended my (ok, somewhat snarky) reply to be to the entire thread, and the tenor of the last few replies, but not simply to you.

[Tavarious Jackson]

31. No. He voted for Jill Stein. nt

[Gabi Hayes]

36. If true, makes him even more disgusto

[Tavarious Jackson]

42. He said he did on air

he has a platform and that is what he said. I will never watch him

[Vinca]

38. No. I gave up on him after the "Trump is presidential" remark.