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UTUSN

(70,747 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:50 PM Jan 2018

Where we're headed: 12 beloved figures J-Edgar hated & tried to destroy

All things old are new again. Even Caligula wasn't new.

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https://www.ranker.com/list/people-j-edgar-hoover-hated/philgibbons?ref=search

12 Historically Beloved Figures That J. Edgar Hoover Hated And Tried To Destroy


* HOOVER was obsessed with MLK's sex life

* The FBI compiled over 1,500 pages on EINSTEIN

* John LENNON was tenaciously targeted by HOOVER and NIXON

* The Grateful Dead was the focus of an FBI conspiracy

* Jean SEBERG committed suicide after the FBI spread rumors connecting her pregnancy to the Black Panthers

* Pete SEEGER's FBI harassment began when he wrote a wartime letter denouncing racism

* Charles CHAPLIN was expelled from the US at HOOVER's behest

* Despite HOOVER's good relationship with FDR, the Bureau targeted Eleanor ROOSEVELT

* Melvin PURVIS violated the FBI's number one rule

* Leonard BERNSTEIN was targeted and denied a passport as early as the '50s

* Few Americans suffered as much as Paul ROBESON

* LIBERACE became the subject of a 400-page FBI investigation

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Where we're headed: 12 beloved figures J-Edgar hated & tried to destroy (Original Post) UTUSN Jan 2018 OP
The National Geographic series "Genius" BaileyBill Jan 2018 #1
Here's the blurb on Eleanor: an incredible 3,900 pages UTUSN Jan 2018 #2
At least J-Ed had good taste, knew how to pick my idols: UTUSN Jan 2018 #4
She was one dangerous woman... mitch96 Jan 2018 #7
Jean Seberg.... Pachamama Jan 2018 #3
Tyrannical winguts are just the definition of everything vicious UTUSN Jan 2018 #5
(Cashing in a kickless-Rec with a self-kick: ) Repeating, *EXCELLENT* taste, kudos J-E!1 UTUSN Jan 2018 #6
All the s**t J. Edgar Hoover pulled would have been avoided... TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #8

BaileyBill

(171 posts)
1. The National Geographic series "Genius"
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:56 PM
Jan 2018

about Einstein covered this in some depth. Still makes me want to spit. Hoover is at least tied for most un-American American. So far, anyway.

UTUSN

(70,747 posts)
2. Here's the blurb on Eleanor: an incredible 3,900 pages
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jan 2018

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Although J. Edgar Hoover worked closely with Franklin D. Roosevelt, he was relentless in pursuing and documenting the behavior and activity of the First Lady, Eleanor Roosevelt. Her FBI file has been described by historians as: " (One) of the wonders of the Western world. It is one of the largest individual files that Hoover compiled."

3,900 pages in length, FBI investigators documented Eleanor's affair with the much younger Joseph Lash. When FDR was informed of this liaison, Lash would be immediately reassigned within the military. Additionally, Eleanor Roosevelt's FBI investigation has been described as including:

“charges against her for suspected Communist activities, threats to her life on the grounds of her disloyalty to the country, close monitoring of her activities and writings, and a record of possible insurrectionary groups that she may have influenced.”

As with most progressives, J. Edgar Hoover suspected that Eleanor Roosevelt, a tireless advocate for human and civil rights, social justice, and feminism, was secretly a communist.

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UTUSN

(70,747 posts)
4. At least J-Ed had good taste, knew how to pick my idols:
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jan 2018

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Famed composer and conductor Leonard Bernstein came to the attention of the FBI in the early '40s for his supposed support of groups potentially harboring communist sympathies. Such information concerning Bernstein's interactions with or sponsorship of fundraising events connected to officially subversive organizations had disastrous personal consequences for Bernstein.

As a result of them, he was denied the renewal of his passport in 1953 at the height of the blacklisting and the House Un-American Activities Committee's furor over American communist infiltration. Bernstein's passport denial – undoubtedly prompted by the FBI's lengthy investigation into his background – forced him to undergo a humiliating process in which he was forced to disavow his previous connections, swear allegiance to the US, and deny any official Communist Party membership.

Following the hysteria of the '50s, Bernstein drew the FBI's attention again in 1970 when he famously sponsored a fundraiser for the Black Panther Party at his Park Avenue apartment. Although this high-profile event would prompt popular-culture mockery by Tom Wolfe, among others, for its "radical chic" behavior, it also set off an FBI attempt to discredit Bernstein by leaking word of his connections to a Black Panther murder suspect. Information from Bernstein's lengthy FBI file was only obtained after an ACLU lawsuit. Heavily redacted, it contains nothing of Bernstein's bisexual affairs, something the FBI would have undoubtedly unearthed. This precipitated additional lawsuits to force the FBI to release un-redacted and complete versions of Bernstein's FBI files.

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mitch96

(13,926 posts)
7. She was one dangerous woman...
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jan 2018

I've seen a pictures of her pistol shooting and she had a permit to carry said weapon...
Don't mess with the bosses wife.....
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Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
3. Jean Seberg....
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jan 2018

A beautiful actress whose life was tormented by the actions of Hoover....She was essentially blacklisted in Hollywood...

He spread rumors that her unborn child was an out of wedlock baby with a black man while she was married to another....she lost the baby (likely due to stress). The baby was caucasian and she had an open casket funeral to prove that. She committed suicide at only age 40 and apparently had attempted suicide multiple times on the Aug 25th anniversary of her baby's death over the years.

She was a great actress and could have and should have been in many films and Oscar winner....Hoover made sure she wasn't...

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
8. All the s**t J. Edgar Hoover pulled would have been avoided...
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:10 AM
Jan 2018

If she could have been a woman or a drag queen in public.

She dressed up in private and couldn't be herself in public. I'm sure she would have been popular and happy running the drag balls, or cuddling up with a nice guy.

Instead, her frustration turned her into a flaming asshole, and she turned that hate outward.

I see this all the time. When some hater goes after a Queer, I think, "they're not really upset with the Queer on the *outside*."

When some hater goes after a smart person, it's not because the *other* person is smart.

Hate is personal. And expensive, especially emotionally.

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