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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 05:56 PM Jan 2018

Will There Be Too Many Democrats Running In 2020?

https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/18/will-many-democrats-running-2020/

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Matt Bai: “If half the untested politicians and zillionaires who’ve signaled some interest in the Democratic nomination actually follow through, we’ll have to turn around the debating halls so it’s the moderators who sit on the dais and the candidates who pack the house.”

“All of which might be good for Democrats, whose public brand could certainly use a little reimagining. But I see a very real danger here for them, which is that if no one in the upper echelons of the party starts thinking about how to contain this field, they might be setting themselves up to relive the Republican experience of 2016.”

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Will There Be Too Many Democrats Running In 2020? (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2018 OP
I only ask that they actually be loyal Democrats. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #1
Definitely! justhanginon Jan 2018 #5
Quite a few ran in 08 and we somehow managed to survive emulatorloo Jan 2018 #2
The more the merrier, as long as they have been Dems for more than 5 minutes... Hekate Jan 2018 #3
Agree wholeheartedly! justhanginon Jan 2018 #6
Repeating the Republican experience of 2016? NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #4
not just that, but many Republicans wished they had the same fail safe as Dems.... BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #31
Republicans do have super delegates NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #32
I was recalling things more like this................... BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #36
Wont be enough, need every zip code if possible uponit7771 Jan 2018 #7
I hope so! spanone Jan 2018 #8
17 repubs ran in 2016 and it worked out well for them DrDan Jan 2018 #9
Exactly... a wide open primary with genuine debate is a GOOD thing! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #14
Except they were all debating DT. LiberalFighter Jan 2018 #16
It worked out badly. The FBI and James Comey had to rig the election for them. (eom) StevieM Jan 2018 #37
badly for us . . . DrDan Jan 2018 #39
We kicked Trump's ass. But the FBI and James Comey's lies made the election unwinnable. (eom) StevieM Jan 2018 #41
oh yeah . . . I forgot . . . a GREAT win for us - thanks for the correction DrDan Jan 2018 #43
Except of course that the Republicans/Trump "won" in 2016 Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #10
No, the last primary was an embarrassment for our party. demmiblue Jan 2018 #11
Good grief, just stop with the passive aggressive smears of Democrats! We had a couple... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #12
Yes, but "let's slam Dems" seems to be the mantra mcar Jan 2018 #20
Rather sweeping assumption. It wasn't embarrassing to Democrats. George II Jan 2018 #17
Damn Straight! Cha Jan 2018 #25
Boom! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #28
Please tell us how,,exactly, was it an "embarassment" since we had a number of contenders... Hekate Jan 2018 #18
I completely disagree, the Primaries were NOT an embarrassment BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #30
Any names in particular? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #35
Anyone who wanted to run was welcome to. Those who chose to did. StevieM Jan 2018 #38
The Democratic electorate never votes based on whose turn it is. StevieM Jan 2018 #40
Too much democracy? Get to the bad part. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #13
The field always shrinks quickly DavidDvorkin Jan 2018 #15
Mid-terms,mid-terms, mid-terms mcar Jan 2018 #19
Yes yes yes! Bucky Jan 2018 #22
We've got a deep bench mcar Jan 2018 #23
Huge field is great Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #21
Easy to see who is already testing waters. JNelson6563 Jan 2018 #24
"setting themselves up to relive the Republican experience of 2016" vi5 Jan 2018 #26
I only ask that our candidate GaryCnf Jan 2018 #27
The weaker candidates will get weeded out quickly. The stress is much ado over nothing. bullwinkle428 Jan 2018 #29
never to many for the 'good team', if we can weed out rw supported fakers & spoilers early enough. Sunlei Jan 2018 #33
It will be a large field, in my opinion. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #34
I think we will have 20 candidates, give or take a couple. StevieM Jan 2018 #42

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
3. The more the merrier, as long as they have been Dems for more than 5 minutes...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jan 2018

... and not Greens, Indys, or Libertarians -- if you know what I mean.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
31. not just that, but many Republicans wished they had the same fail safe as Dems....
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jan 2018

.....Super Delegates

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
32. Republicans do have super delegates
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jan 2018

they don't have as much power as Democratic superdelegates, but they do have them.

and, as far as I know, Democratic superdelegates have voted along with whatever the majority of regular delegates have decided anyhow.

I doubt Democratic superdelegates would have done much to stop an Oprah, Jerry Springer, George Clooney or similar star if they had won an overwhelming number of regular delegates by crushing everybody in the state primaries and caucuses like Trump did on the Republican side.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
36. I was recalling things more like this...................
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jan 2018
At least in name, superdelegates are not involved in the Republican Party nomination process. There are delegates to the Republican National Convention who are seated automatically, but they are limited to three per state, consisting of the state chairsperson and two district-level committee members.
Superdelegate - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
10. Except of course that the Republicans/Trump "won" in 2016
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

I don't see a huge crowded Democratic 2020 field, honestly. We have a few potential contenders out there, but nobody has seriously emerged yet (and won't until 2019 probably). Hopefully, nobody in (or out of) the Democratic Party wants to endanger our chances of beating Trump in 2020.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
11. No, the last primary was an embarrassment for our party.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

We could have introduced and given a nation-wide platform for a lot of new names. But, no... turns

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Good grief, just stop with the passive aggressive smears of Democrats! We had a couple...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jan 2018

... of fine and outstanding Democrats vying for the party's nomination and the best candidate won!

I really don't know what you'd find embarrassing about it.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
18. Please tell us how,,exactly, was it an "embarassment" since we had a number of contenders...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jan 2018

...they all had an opportunity to show us their stuff, we even included an Independent who showed little gratitude (I admit that was embarassing and I hope we learned).

Everybody had a chance to be voted on. Hillary WON the primary based on votes. Then she went on to WIN the General Election and got 3 million more votes than Trump.

It took voter suppression measures galore, infiltration, and treason to stop her from being President. I am really embarrassed for my country that we let this happen. Is that what you meant?

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
30. I completely disagree, the Primaries were NOT an embarrassment
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jan 2018

Trump winning the election is the national embarrassment I wish true Dems would remember

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
38. Anyone who wanted to run was welcome to. Those who chose to did.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jan 2018

There was nothing embarrassing about it.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
40. The Democratic electorate never votes based on whose turn it is.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:52 PM
Jan 2018

And that didn't happen in 2016. The claim that it did was nothing but an attack on our party's nominee, not a legitimate reference to an actual event.

It is disgraceful that the first time a woman won a major party's nomination her accomplishment was completely dismissed and we were told that she had it handed to her, rather than having earned it like everybody else.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
15. The field always shrinks quickly
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jan 2018

Once the primaries begin.

Moreover, I don't think there's a chance of the Democrats rallying behind the equivalent of Trump.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
19. Mid-terms,mid-terms, mid-terms
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 08:56 PM
Jan 2018

Lather, rinse, repeat. The focus must be on GOTV for our great Dem candidates and nominees.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
22. Yes yes yes!
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jan 2018

Making Trump accountable to Congress is Step 1 in saving our democracy. Plus it will allow a few new stars to shine the Democratic galaxy. We need fresh blood.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
23. We've got a deep bench
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:17 PM
Jan 2018

and they are acquitting themselves quite well.

Yes, let's take back Congress and get the real investigations started!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. Huge field is great
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:09 PM
Jan 2018

Requires more debates, inspires more arguments, and therefore exponentially more national attention.

My aunt switched to Republican in spring 2016 largely because the GOP primaries were receiving so much daily coverage on the local news that she got taken in, deciding that must be the place to be. Meanwhile she didn't know a damn thing about the issues, and still does not. Once Trump emerged as the frontrunner on her newly favored side then she embraced all of his policies and now stubbornly won't let go.

I'd like to win. I don't care about being pure. We already have much more of an uphill climb in 2020 than conventional wisdom allows.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
26. "setting themselves up to relive the Republican experience of 2016"
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jan 2018

By that do they mean winning the election? Then count me in. Especially if the other option this writer refers to is the "upper eschelons" of the party making decisions for us.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
27. I only ask that our candidate
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jan 2018

be able to inspire black voters, and other people of color, in a way Obama, and ONLY Obama, has managed to do ever since we turned to the middle in 1992.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
34. It will be a large field, in my opinion.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

I don't think it is possible for the field to be too large. There are many advantages to a large field and if that is the case a large chunk of them will be out half-way through the process. We need a lot of voices. Many are going to want to be the one to take Trump on.

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