Question.....when do all bills need 60 votes now in the Senate ???

[a kennedy]

Did I miss when this happened?? Thank you.

[peacebuzzard]

1. I saw that as well,

It caught my attention. Maybe someone else knows.

[PoliticAverse]

2. Because of the current filibuster rules in the Senate...

normal bills require 60 votes to "end debate".

Some bills (those qualifying under "reconcillation" for example) only requite 50+ votes.

For complete information/history see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate

[uponit7771]

10. So never really, conservatives don't give a damn about the rules anymore

[vi5]

3. Only 2 situations I can think of...

1) When Democrats hold a majority.
2) When Republicans want cover for not passing a bill their base wants.

As we saw with Gorsuch the "nuclear option" is possible when a political party wants something badly enough.

[Salviati]

5. Or another situation:

3) The republicans want to force Democrats to support the terrible ideas they've added to must-pass bills.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

4. Not sure

Legislation doesn't require 60 votes AFAIK unless there is a filibuster (which we learned a lot about when Democrats controlled the WH/Congress during the Obama era). Seems like the Republicans- along with the MSM- are making the Democrats out to be presumptively responsible for a potential government shutdown tomorrow if they withhold their votes for whatever they manage to push out. Democrats aren't threatening to filibuster AFAIK.

[unblock]

6. Generally all bills require 60 votes to end debate. The exception is

reconciliation bills, which require certain specific circumstances.

The first is there has to be a budget resolution, which republicans haven’t passed for this fiscal year, and have no intention of doing so because they don’t want to publicize how huge they’ve made the deficit.

Consequently, there can be no reconciliation bills this fiscal year.

[underpants]

7. The Byrd Rule

60 votes are needed for any bill that will effect spending. Robert Byrd put this in place when he was Majority leader so that a small majority couldn't steamroll legislation without bipartisan support. There is an exception once a year (it resets if a budget is actually passed) for reconciliation which needs only 50+1.

[yallerdawg]

8. You know a scenario I'm worried about?

We have a prolonged shutdown - people are hurting - it gets explained there would be no shutdowns if that 60 vote is tossed for simple majority rule like for judges and cabinet picks now - not "9 or fewer Senate Democrats holding the government hostage."

You don't think R's have an endgame planned for this?

[kelly1mm]

9. Technically no bills need 60 votes to pass, only 51. What needs 60 votes is the motion to

end debate and allow the bill to be voted on. That is the filibuster rule and in the 'old days' you actually had to be on the floor 'debating' the bill. That is where the old reading from the phone book situations came from.