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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo not count on young disaffected Republicans to vote for Dems in droves
Maybe a few here or there may cross over, but not in droves. There has been way too much brainwashing that it's either Republicans or nothing. Democratic Party voting does not play into any disaffected voting strategy. They are more likely not to vote at all.
So....disaffected young voters can still make a difference. It's been a proven fact that a lone isolated disaffected person is less likely to speak up and less likely to ultimately stray from the herd. However, the more often that these young disaffected Republican voters hear from other young disaffected Republicans that are willing to publicly admit their dismay and disappointments and lack of support for the orange anus, the more likely they are to look for a way to disassociate themselves from the corrupt Trump regime. Nothing works as well as peers for the younger crowd. It's important the media highlights and displays RWers that are mad and angry at Trump.
It makes sense that MSNBC has angry RWers on their shows, but I'm not sure these MSNBC shows are a magnet for RWers. There needs to be concerted effort to sow discord directly to the RWers using their own disaffected voters. Not in an effort to gain votes, but simply for the purpose of having them walk away from the GOP.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Get the base out. Decent people are still a strong majority.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)but politics and voting is always multi faceted. I attempted to address just one facet.
GOTV is a priority for sure, but I do belive we should chew gum and walk at the same time and get out the information to young RWers taht they are no alone in their disaffection for the GOP and Trump and it's ok to walk away from them.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Their heads are deeper down their shitholes than the Money Pit at Oak Island.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)...and media can play that part. I personally don't plan on spending a moment trying to "convert" a Rep, I know it can't be done.
Psych games...That's what I'm suggesting, appealing to young disaffected Reps by letting them know they are not alone. Certainly seemed to work during the Dem primaries.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Show me one hundred "remorseful" Trump voters, and I'll show you 99 people who are more or less absolutely guaranteed to vote Republican next time around.
Far from counting on them to vote Democrat, I'm very confident that they are even more likely to vote Republican.
Fuck them.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Let 'em live in their sealed Shithole Universe.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)When Democrats show up to vote, Democrats WIN.
As for disaffected GOoPers, if they stay home and not vote, that will count as more votes for Democrats, because those are votes not going to the GOP.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)a party in the coming years...deservedly...sewage scum is what they are. And the kids are getting their student loan agreements ripped up as we post and will pay way more...I think there is a wave coming of all sorts of voters...also why post something so negative?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Clinton won voters under 30 by only 53-37%, a big dropoff from Obama's 60-32% margin against Romney in 2012 and 66-32% margin against McCain.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/
That difference likely swung Michigan, PA and Wisconsin to Trump.
msongs
(67,420 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)youth turnout was some of it, the constant negative coverage of Clinton while Trump's huge negative explosions never lasted, Russian and Cambridge Analytica targeting, the Comey letter,
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Repubs are repubs and we'll probably never win them over.
Better to focus on the base, and on the 30% or so of people who normally stay home. If we can take a big bite out of that demographic and get them to vote for some sanity, we might just make this wave happen.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)If the pool of young Republicans in 2018 is similar to 2010 or 2014, we don't need them to vote in droves for Democrats.
If five of every 100 of them vote Democratic, five vote 3rd party and five to ten more of them stay home, it will make a huge difference in close elections. A 5% swing is no where close to "droves" voting Democratic.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)One of the voting experts I saw yesterday - think it was Sabato - said the exurbs have been going against repubs due to young republicans switching over because of trump. I don't have a link but neither does the OP. I did find two stories that tend to back up the experts claim.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/333865-poll-more-young-republicans-left-gop-during-2016-election-than-democrats
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/historic-turnout-of-young-voters-in-virginia-election-hints-at-national-problem-for-republicans/2017/11/24/8e90d978-cf03-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?utm_term=.b6498353a029
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)polling stats often indicate young republicans as being upset at the GOP and Trump, but most claim they will vote RW anyway and not vote in droves for Dems. I guess I'm trying to find a way for the younger voting republicans to realize that they are not alone in feeling antagonistic towards the GOP, that many are choosing not to vote and it's ok to think that way because their peers are already "there". It's not a difficult Social Psychology method to understand "group" mentality.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/13/opinion/alabama-republicans-trump.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/10/06/does-the-republican-party-really-have-a-young-person-problem/?utm_term=.a988b14f3aaf
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Moreover, there is little evidence that younger Republicans view the Democratic Party much more favorably than older Republicans do. When asked to rate the Democratic Party on a 0-100 scale, where 100 is the most favorable rating, Republicans ages 18-29 gave the Democrats an average rating of 29.5 in 2016, while Republicans ages 65 and older gave the Democrats a rating of 21.7. Over time, Republicans of all age groups have become less favorable to the Democratic Party while remaining consistently favorable to their own party.
Second, within the Republican Party, young people are not always more consistently liberal than older people. For example, although young people are often described as racially progressive, younger Republicans do not have different views of African Americans. The graph below shows trends in Republicans views on a scale ranging from 0-100, where 100 is the most favorable rating. Not only is there little change over time, but the views of all age groups are very similar. Trends in evaluations of Asian Americans and Hispanics tell a similar story.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Talk about issues that pertain to them (such as student debt).