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highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:12 PM Jan 2018

MSNBC: Trump friends saying he's making shutdown look likely as part of reality show

He wants to get huge ratings, get attention, and then he'll claim he did something at the last minute to avert a shutdown, and he'll go off to Mar-a-Lago to accept the applause of his friends.

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MSNBC: Trump friends saying he's making shutdown look likely as part of reality show (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2018 OP
Well so far Mitch is blaming him... Historic NY Jan 2018 #1
Sounds like tomorrow will be a good day to keep the tv off and ignore his "act" eleny Jan 2018 #2
Well the guy who likes to take credit for how well Wall Street is doing because PA Democrat Jan 2018 #3
Markets are up 25% during 2017.... quartz007 Jan 2018 #5
How did the last gov't shutdown affect you? quartz007 Jan 2018 #4
My husband didnt Qanisqineq Jan 2018 #6
Does not seem fair quartz007 Jan 2018 #11
Businesses around national park systems in my area lost millions wishstar Jan 2018 #8
Tourism money not spent in your area quartz007 Jan 2018 #9
The Commonwealth of Va lost a lot of tax rev during the sequester underpants Jan 2018 #10
I think there are a lot of people would argue that their lives were significantly impacted. PA Democrat Jan 2018 #12
Without doubt lots of inconvenience! quartz007 Jan 2018 #15
I was on vacation in DC to see all the museums.... MLAA Jan 2018 #13
DC has the best Museums! quartz007 Jan 2018 #14
Agree! MLAA Jan 2018 #16
He'll probably let the shutdown go for awhile and see if the Dems get blamed. Liberal In Texas Jan 2018 #7
He should be impeached for that alone world wide wally Jan 2018 #17

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
3. Well the guy who likes to take credit for how well Wall Street is doing because
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jan 2018

of his* policies might want to check into how the markets will respond.

Maybe the stable genius" who "went to the best schools" can get someone to explain (in terms his little pea brain can understand) how the markets hate uncertainty.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
5. Markets are up 25% during 2017....
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jan 2018

and markets are very overvalued based on tRump hype. The coming crash will not be pretty.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
4. How did the last gov't shutdown affect you?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jan 2018

My social security check arrived on time, and the traffic in Seattle was very light during the shutdown. Those federal employees furloughed received back pay.

But those applying for passports had to wait.

Qanisqineq

(4,826 posts)
6. My husband didnt
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jan 2018

As a federal employee, he couldn't go to work so he didn't get paid. No back pay, we were just out the money.

Back pay may have been true for others but not us

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
8. Businesses around national park systems in my area lost millions
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jan 2018

Economy in my area is very tourism dependent and the shutdown caused considerable disruption because it occurred in fall when tourism that would have normally been at peak was severely depressed. A shutdown now in mid-winter at lowest point of tourist season would not have as much impact as it did the last time.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
9. Tourism money not spent in your area
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jan 2018

probably was spent in other areas or other purchases. But you are exactly right about disruptions in affected areas.

underpants

(182,832 posts)
10. The Commonwealth of Va lost a lot of tax rev during the sequester
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jan 2018

and every shutdown does the same.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
12. I think there are a lot of people would argue that their lives were significantly impacted.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jan 2018

Tax refunds were delayed, processing of veterans' disability claims were delayed, Head Start Centers were closed, National Parks were closed, flu monitoring by the CDC was cut back, enrollment in NIH clinical trials was suspended, rural home loans were delayed, just to name a few.

Additionally, there are direct costs to the taxpayers when agencies have to take extra actions to safely shut down programs and when payments to our creditors and contractors are delayed.

Detailed analysis at the link:

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/omb/reports/impacts-and-costs-of-october-2013-federal-government-shutdown-report.pdf

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
15. Without doubt lots of inconvenience!
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

As for the total cost, since total amount of money in circulation does not change during a shutdown, I wonder if loss of business by some is made up by gain in business by others. If a tourist area lost business, that money could have gone to other spending somewhere or saved for later spending.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
14. DC has the best Museums!
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jan 2018

I hope you got to see them all during a subsequent trip.
I especially love the Museum of Natural History. And all those art museums with fantastic paintings.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
16. Agree!
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

I am fortunate enough to have gone many times before and since. My current favorite museum is the National Portrait Gallery. I also always go to the Mineral and Gem exhibit for a quick glance at the diamonds and then on to the wonderful other minerals and gems. Last time I went to the Natural history museum and saw a recently updated exhibit on the evolution of man. Ahhh, no place like Dc for learning and feeding the soul with art!

Liberal In Texas

(13,558 posts)
7. He'll probably let the shutdown go for awhile and see if the Dems get blamed.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

If they don't they'll cobble something together and kick it down the road.

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