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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:09 AM Jan 2018

Good Speech, Sen. Flake, But Wheres the Beef?

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2018/1/17/131757/056

Good Speech, Sen. Flake, But Where’s the Beef?

by BooMan
Wed Jan 17th, 2018 at 01:17:57 PM EST


Sen. Jeff Flake’s opposition to President Trump is all words and little action, but he is at least willing to go farther than any of his colleagues. He went on the Senate floor today an excoriated the administration for their untruthfulness, comparing them to dictatorships around the world. His speech is worth a read.

The part that strikes me most was when Flake talked about the Russia probe. He not only took the president to task for referring to the investigation as a “hoax,” but he pointed out that there hasn’t been a single cabinet meeting to discuss how to protect the country from future interference in our elections.

To be very clear, to call the Russia matter a “hoax” – as the president has many times – is a falsehood. We know that the attacks orchestrated by the Russian government during the election were real and constitute a grave threat to both American sovereignty and to our national security. It is in the interest of every American to get to the bottom of this matter, wherever the investigation leads.

Ignoring or denying the truth about hostile Russian intentions toward the United States leaves us vulnerable to further attacks. We are told by our intelligence agencies that those attacks are ongoing, yet it has recently been reported that there has not been a single cabinet-level meeting regarding Russian interference and how to defend America against these attacks. Not one. What might seem like a casual and routine untruth – so casual and routine that it has by now become the white noise of Washington – is in fact a serious lapse in the defense of our country.


Flake’s speech leaves me feeling empty. If Trump is such a treat to democracy, why did Flake help him weather the political storm he is in by voting for the tax bill? If the president is utterly failing and leaving a serious lapse in the defense of our country, why should he be allowed to remain in office?


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We have more civilized procedures for removing a leader who has become a threat to our form of government, but it should be obvious that it does little good to stand up in the Senate and say that someone wants to turn us all into bondsmen and smash the free press if they then go back to work the next day and help that person achieve their legislative agenda. Either the threat is real and must be urgently addressed or it’s not real and Sen. Flake is engaging in hyperbole.

So, yes, this was a fine speech. But words without actions aren’t impressive. Flake won’t tell us what we should do, what his fellow senators should do or even what he intends to do. The next time Sen. Flake gets incensed enough to make a big speech on the Senate floor, he should have some answers to those questions. And he should stop voting with the president on anything that might strengthen his position.
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Good Speech, Sen. Flake, But Wheres the Beef? (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2018 OP
Yeah, meaningless drivel... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #1
And that's why Booman and myself are not impressed. nt babylonsister Jan 2018 #3
Flake votes pro-Trump SHRED Jan 2018 #2
All bark and no bite. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #4
Hey now, I've been reliably informed that this is totally wow-worthy gratuitous Jan 2018 #5
I was informed also, but remained unconvinced. babylonsister Jan 2018 #6

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
1. Yeah, meaningless drivel...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jan 2018

from someone who has already basically quit his seat. If he had made a speach like this before he announced his retirement, it might have some oomph to it.

He has still been voting Repub and Trumpist, that's what matters.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. Flake votes pro-Trump
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:30 AM
Jan 2018

Tax Scam.
Against internet privacy.
Rightwing judges.
Against Net Neutrality.

Etc...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Hey now, I've been reliably informed that this is totally wow-worthy
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jan 2018

In fact, it's wow, wow, wow-worthy, even if Flake doesn't cast a vote against any Trumpian proposal, no matter how hare-brained. Even if nobody else in his caucus follows his rhetorical lead. Even if it has no more effect than using a push broom to stop the incoming tide. This is really, really, really important and triple wow-worthy.

Or so I've heard.

Since Flake's Fine Speech™ yesterday, nothing has changed. The further FFS™ fades into the past, the less impact it will have, and it wasn't all that impactful to begin with.

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