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Sorority sister who went viral for racist tirade just got what she deserves (Original Post) shenmue Jan 2018 OP
I hope her parents had a little talk w/her. Of course, where did she learn it? CurtEastPoint Jan 2018 #1
I guess this is her mom? janterry Jan 2018 #16
bottom left pic looks like some blow up doll JI7 Jan 2018 #19
Neither look like sorority girl types sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #31
I wonder if she'll learn anything from this janterry Jan 2018 #32
What she learned sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #34
Probably from assholes on the Internet- Her mom kicked her out snooper2 Jan 2018 #51
Reminds me of that crying Nazi. Not so fucking tough now are ya. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #2
What happened to that guy? NCTraveler Jan 2018 #47
He was in jail until early December mythology Jan 2018 #52
I found some info on him Tracyjo Jan 2018 #76
Trump's America in full force. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #3
Should look good on her resume! democratisphere Jan 2018 #4
Wow. Those videos are disgusting. The stereotypical racist is usually thought of as a... brush Jan 2018 #5
And all her friends cheering her on in the video. cwydro Jan 2018 #59
Right. The others should've been exposed as well. brush Jan 2018 #65
Harley Barber wanted the world to know she is a racist dalton99a Jan 2018 #6
She's not sorry about what she did. Ilsa Jan 2018 #7
Precisely. As far as her expulsion goes- misanthrope Jan 2018 #24
She might have some genuine regret for her actions, if she was impaired. I would hope so. Orsino Jan 2018 #50
Wow, Republicans These Days... Grassy Knoll Jan 2018 #8
You're MISSING what's happening here. U of A has a lot Hortensis Jan 2018 #39
Sweet Girl Stallion Jan 2018 #9
She is finding out the hard way that not everybody agrees with her. Grammy23 Jan 2018 #10
It's a good time when a poison clown gets the attention she deserves, in a hurry! Judi Lynn Jan 2018 #11
U welcome shenmue Jan 2018 #12
Funny. She doesn't look all that "white" to me. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #15
I wonder if her ancestors are from Norway. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #20
60 years ago, she would have been drinking from the "white" fountains in Alabama misanthrope Jan 2018 #25
She is from New Jersey. eom Tipperary Jan 2018 #45
she may be from NJ but her comments make is clear that being in AL allows her to say n***** BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #54
Pretty sure she talked that way in Jersey as well GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #62
her perception that AL allowed it...just going on her comments BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #66
Which is utterly ridiculous. She is a moron if she thinks it is ok to say anywhere. Tipperary Jan 2018 #67
could be italian greek. or maybe she is like stephen miller and jindal JI7 Jan 2018 #79
She looks awfully brown EffieBlack Jan 2018 #57
She seems nice. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #13
Damn. And Alabama won. I can't imagine what would have happened if they had lost. She probably politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2018 #14
Liquor doesn't make you something you aren't misanthrope Jan 2018 #26
"A drunk mind speaks a sober heart." n/t reflection Jan 2018 #58
Stunning angrychair Jan 2018 #17
When Alabama kicks you out for being racist... GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #18
I am pleased University acted swiftly Justice Jan 2018 #21
When you're too racist for Alabama, that's pretty damn racist! Initech Jan 2018 #22
Probably Why She Picked That School ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #46
Yes, she is a raving racist, but I also think there is something else wrong with her. Laffy Kat Jan 2018 #23
Drunk janterry Jan 2018 #27
I'm thinking bipolar disorder. VOX Jan 2018 #30
Yes, I think you're right. Laffy Kat Jan 2018 #36
I'm thinking that's a bunch of horseshit Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #42
Could be horseshit and the last thing I want to do is excuse her behavior. Laffy Kat Jan 2018 #75
Your experience with a person having BP disorder LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #77
Whatever Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #81
Wtf is wrong with people like this? Tipperary Jan 2018 #28
This has the earmarks of bipolar disorder. VOX Jan 2018 #29
Very interesting. Thanks. Hortensis Jan 2018 #43
I have a distant in-law who destroyed his life and lost his family because of BPD. VOX Jan 2018 #74
I'm Not Sure About That ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #48
Here is another recent case of a woman, racism on social media, and BPD... VOX Jan 2018 #70
Agreed. Had a similar situation while in Grad school Malikshah Jan 2018 #61
Its sobering to think how quickly and thoroughly a person with BPD can destroy their own life. VOX Jan 2018 #72
Or she could be a drunken racist shithead. ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #64
Thats always a possibility in the loving, tolerant, beacon of hope that is America. VOX Jan 2018 #73
:) Yes. But, "often the signals of deeper trouble." Hortensis Jan 2018 #78
She was trying to get kicked out RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #33
I doubt that Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #38
This GrapesOfWrath Jan 2018 #40
And were counting on Millennials like this to save us from conservatives and Trump. Calista241 Jan 2018 #35
She's Gen Z crazycatlady Jan 2018 #71
If you aren't a psychiatrist/psychologist Bradical79 Jan 2018 #37
Thank you Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #41
Bipolar is a not subject I know about. Not like you guys. Hortensis Jan 2018 #55
Absolutely. Hence my comment: Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #56
Exactly. And NO one said it did. But since others Hortensis Jan 2018 #60
Sounds right on to me womanofthehills Jan 2018 #63
That's really too bad. Hoping somehow college would work out. Hortensis Jan 2018 #69
I was thinking she might have a career on Fox News, MineralMan Jan 2018 #44
Why do you hate janitors? old guy Jan 2018 #53
Here is my take-away. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #49
She. Blue_true Jan 2018 #68
to say BPD is an excuse DonCoquixote Jan 2018 #80

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
31. Neither look like sorority girl types
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:56 AM
Jan 2018

I just found some of her "finsta" and her name is spooky_slut_ on one. The other says to "stop immigration from shithole countries" which tells us all we need to know imo.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
32. I wonder if she'll learn anything from this
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 08:08 AM
Jan 2018

I hope so. I'd love to see an interview from her in 5 years, when she has some perspective.

OTOH, her mother didn't look like the most 'upright' of people (with her middle finger extended). I swear sometimes. But my 15 year old would be horrified if I were on social media looking like that. I would embarrass her!

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
34. What she learned
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 08:42 AM
Jan 2018

Was to not get caught. Racist behavior isn't changing just because she was caught doing it.

I'm just glad she clarified that she is from New Jersey. We already have a bad enough reputation in Al.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
51. Probably from assholes on the Internet- Her mom kicked her out
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jan 2018

Barber’s mother, Jill Barbera told the Daily Mail she forced her daughter to move out last year because she is disrespectful. A family friend told Heavy that Barbera and her daughter haven’t had a relationship since then.

“Even though I made her move out in mid December 2016 due to her lack of respect for everyone and everything and refusal to get treatment for same, I did attempt to reach out to her today but there was no answer,” Barbera told the Daily Mail. “I am saddened, shocked, mortified and devastated by her horrific display of racism and hatred on social media. I respect that an apology will never fix the damage she has done, however as her mother I am truly sorry for everyone negatively affected by her actions. She was not raised to act this way nor was this type of behavior or disrespect condoned in the home she was raised in for 18 years.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/01/harley-barber-alabama-new-jersey-video/

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
47. What happened to that guy?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:53 AM
Jan 2018

Last I heard was a warrant was out for his arrest and he was scared shitless. I heard that from him as he was bawling like a little baby. I think his name was Chris something or other.

brush

(53,791 posts)
5. Wow. Those videos are disgusting. The stereotypical racist is usually thought of as a...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:20 PM
Jan 2018

redneck male with missing teeth but lately white women racists have been coming out of the woodwork (the trump effect).

For example, this silly buffoon in the videos committing college and career suicide, the other college student with the AA roommate who contaminated her roommate's cosmetics and toothbrush with spit and feces, the blonde Homeland Security Secretary covering for trump's racism.

God, where are we at, America? Are we stuck with the trump effect until 2020?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
59. And all her friends cheering her on in the video.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jan 2018

There’s more than one racist being exposed in those videos.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. She's not sorry about what she did.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jan 2018

She's sorry she was caught and punished. I bet she doesn't even understand why she was expelled.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
24. Precisely. As far as her expulsion goes-
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:57 AM
Jan 2018

In truly pragmatic terms, universities don't expel students for just harboring bigotry. There are plenty of her former schoolmates in those Greek organizations who hold equally repugnant attitudes about minorities and poor people. The difference is they don't broadcast them to the world in viral social media and become a public relations nightmare for a multi-million dollar business. If they did, they would likely suffer the same fate.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
50. She might have some genuine regret for her actions, if she was impaired. I would hope so.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:37 AM
Jan 2018

But now she can't pretend that racism isn't part of her make-up.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. You're MISSING what's happening here. U of A has a lot
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jan 2018

of conservatives, and of course its Alpha Phi chapter is going to also.

She was expelled from both.

And it's not just the university environment. Even Roy Moore's followers in that notorious "Jew lawyer" clip revealed that most of them wanted to hear Moore had Jewish supporters and were let down when it turned out to be a joke.

Bigotry and racism are still bad words to most people, including conservatives.

Now, if we can get people to understand political bigotry is every bit as real and comes from the exact same place as all other kinds...

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
10. She is finding out the hard way that not everybody agrees with her.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:37 PM
Jan 2018


A big dose of karma is headed her way. Kinda hard to feel too much sorrow for her. I know at that age it is easy to do dumb things. I was that age once. But damn. How clueless does one have to be to do something THAT dumb? Was alcohol involved in that second video? It sounds like it which means she probably was engaged in underaged drinking. Another legal issue she probably side stepped.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
11. It's a good time when a poison clown gets the attention she deserves, in a hurry!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:38 PM
Jan 2018


Harley Barber: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
January 17, 2018

https://telegraphmedia.net/harley-barber-5-fast-facts-you-need-to-know/

Terrific to see this article after a long day of racist right-winger Trump supporter news.

Thank you, shenmue! This hit the spot!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. Funny. She doesn't look all that "white" to me.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jan 2018

I would not be surprised if she found that she was not of completely "white"' heritage. Horrible, hateful woman.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
25. 60 years ago, she would have been drinking from the "white" fountains in Alabama
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:06 AM
Jan 2018

That's the color line that counts most in the Heart of Dixie.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
62. Pretty sure she talked that way in Jersey as well
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jan 2018

And Bama did not really allow it. They kicked her white ass out. Now back to Jersey for her.

Occasionally justice prevails!

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
66. her perception that AL allowed it...just going on her comments
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jan 2018

...but I agree with you, she likely talked that way before arriving in AL.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
67. Which is utterly ridiculous. She is a moron if she thinks it is ok to say anywhere.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:02 PM
Jan 2018

The friends cheering her on all have northern accents too.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
79. could be italian greek. or maybe she is like stephen miller and jindal
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:08 AM
Jan 2018

self hating types are often more extreme in their hate .

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
14. Damn. And Alabama won. I can't imagine what would have happened if they had lost. She probably
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jan 2018

would have torched the place. Well I'm sure once she sobered up she feels like the fool she truly is. I wouldn't be so quick to fault the parents though because they may not be responsible for her behavior. Whatever liquor she's been drinking is probably responsible and I'm sure she regrets it now.

"A fool and their paid college tuition and their new sorority are soon parted."
Confucious

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
26. Liquor doesn't make you something you aren't
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:08 AM
Jan 2018

It strips away inhibitions and reveals your id. She just didn't care about divulging what really pulsed inside her.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
17. Stunning
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:23 AM
Jan 2018

I could feel her college and professional careers imploding with every utterance of the filth from her mouth.
Twisting...turning...imploding...into a black hole of despair and frustration at a dead end job as a waitress at sleazy bar on the outskirts of Camden NJ.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. When Alabama kicks you out for being racist...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:36 AM
Jan 2018

And you are from New Jersey?

Can it get worse?

You have lost bigly!

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
46. Probably Why She Picked That School
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jan 2018

She probably assumed that she could say and do whatever she wanted in Alabama. Not so fast, little one.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
23. Yes, she is a raving racist, but I also think there is something else wrong with her.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:23 AM
Jan 2018

Even if you are a racist asshole, why video yourself doing and saying such hateful things? I think there may be some mental health issues here. She sounds frankly psychotic, IMO.

On edit: Maybe no psychotic, but manic?

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
36. Yes, I think you're right.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jan 2018

Talking so fast, telling everyone to go buy a fur vest.... It is very strange.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
75. Could be horseshit and the last thing I want to do is excuse her behavior.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jan 2018

The only reason I mentioned it was the disconnected way she was babbling. I think what she did and continues to say should be considered hate crimes and punished accordingly.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
77. Your experience with a person having BP disorder
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:24 AM
Jan 2018

may not be the experience of others. Also, there is a way of disagreeing with people that is not insulting.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
81. Whatever
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jan 2018

Maybe I'm just tired and fed up with people making stupid excuses for inexcusable behavoir.

Oh, and I've actually had way more experience than just one person with bipolar disorder. And I stand by my statement.

Oh, and as Don Coquixote said below, it's not just horseshit to blame racism on bipolar disorder. It's actually offensive, insulting, and degrading to the tens of thousands of people who live with it, cope with it, manage it, and don't turn in to spoiled, bigoted little shits like the white privileged brat in question here. Many of them actually turn into great people and would never be caught dead making videos like this even when in the midst of their worst outbreaks.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
29. This has the earmarks of bipolar disorder.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:20 AM
Jan 2018

I'm not a head-doc, but I've dealt first-person with someone a few years back who suffered from bipolar disorder. It is shocking to hear someone who seemed adjusted and balanced suddenly start in with all sorts of weird profanity and yes, racial/ethnic slurs -- anything that is instantly offensive and self-destructive.

Just an utter, complete absence of judgment or "filter" -- a stream of disjointed epithets and slurs. It's like a speeding car with no braking system. That she may have been drinking would only increase the load on an already overworked faulty mechanism.

I hope that this young woman gets a psychiatric evaluation and proper treatment, if indeed she is ill.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. Very interesting. Thanks.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jan 2018

Considering that this documentation will be attached to her name for life, for all potential employers to check out for instance, being able to explain a diagnosis and treatment might help her a lot.

Speaking of, given the potential devastating impacts on lives, it seems as if some legal remedy will be needed to limit access. Such as if this young woman eventually went to court, demonstrated this did not represent the person she now was, and requested a court order. We'd need an electronic process to at least mostly do it also.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
74. I have a distant in-law who destroyed his life and lost his family because of BPD.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jan 2018

By all appearances, if you spoke one-on-one with this young man, you’d get the idea that he’s well-spoken, presentable, bright, engaging, and as far as one could be from any psych-health issues. He had an intelligent, attractive wife and a beautiful baby son by her. A nice situation that called for responsibility, living in moderation, and possessing the will to maintain the family and home.

And yet in one of his “up” moods, he latched onto the very foolish idea to sell drugs (lots of them) all over the state, to make some quick money (why get a job, when you feel so good?). His mode of transport and delivery was a RED vehicle (because, when you’re on top of the world, who would notice?). He was busted in short order, but lucked out with a soft sentence.

But, true to his BPD, he goes and does it ALL again; this time out of state. Busted again swiftly, and as a repeat offender, got a 5-year-term in a Midwest correctional facility.

His wife wisely left him, taking custody of the son, and moved across the country. He’s now a convicted felon who’s done jail time, and I doesn’t have any money or prospects (who’s going to hire a felon?). Even claiming diminished capacity because of the BPD is too late for him. What a complete and utter waste.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
48. I'm Not Sure About That
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jan 2018

My wife has had BPD for nearly 30 years. No such behaviors as you suggest have ever been manifest with her. Now, she is properly mediated and is diligent and persistent in taking those prescriptions. And while there have been times when she did manifest some of the behaviors associated with that illness, nothing close to this type of thing, nor the lack of filter attributable to the illness have ever been witnessed by me, and i've been there the whole 30+ years.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
70. Here is another recent case of a woman, racism on social media, and BPD...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jan 2018

And by no means am I implying that all BPD individuals say/do outlandish things. Some merely cannot sleep in a healthy cycle, or worry excessively, etc.

But in some severely affected individuals, the disorder can cause them, through impaired judgment, to engage in (per the NIH) risky behaviors, such as excessive spending or hypersexuality. The young New Jersey student at the University of Alabama completely destroyed her personal, social and academic standing by her lack of impulse control.

I came across another recent case of a woman with BPD posting racist content on social media:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2017/01/20/the-internet-branded-her-a-racist-does-it-matter-that-shes-bipolar%3fmedia=AMP+HTML
The Internet Branded Her a Racist. Does It Matter That She’s Bipolar?
SevenDaysVermont.com
By Sasha Goldstein Jan 20, 2017
It all started last week when Heather Wick logged onto her now-deleted Facebook page and wrote: “Do you think Trump will bring back slavery? I could use a maid.”

Reaction was swift as the post went viral. The 44-year-old Burlington woman says she has been deluged with death threats, upward of 300 per hour.
<snip>
What’s not apparent online: Wick is bipolar and was likely in the midst of a manic episode. She says she was diagnosed in 1997 while attending Albany Medical College. Yes, she did graduate. But she never finished residency. One year in, she quit.

“I had to leave because I was still sick with bipolar disorder and working 120 hours a week was detrimental to my health,” Wick told Seven Days.
“Between 1998 and 2007, I was hospitalized five times for bipolar disorder,” she added. “I have had the same psychiatrist since 2000 and it took eight years to get on a medication regimen that works for me. I have ups and downs, but haven’t had to be hospitalized since 2007.” Wick didn’t use her mental illness as an excuse for what she posted on Facebook. In fact, she said, just the opposite.
<snip>
“People may end up doing a lot of high risk activities that they later regret and that have painful consequences,” Rettew continued. “They can say things they don’t believe, they can spend money they don’t have, they can become more promiscuous. A lot of mistakes are made when people are manic.”
<snip>


Malikshah

(4,818 posts)
61. Agreed. Had a similar situation while in Grad school
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jan 2018

This has all the self-destructive earmarks of bi-polar in my layman's opinion.

I had a friend who systematically destroyed her career in academia over a number of years due to undiagnosed bipolar disorder.

What was more vexing is that she'd lost her mother to it and refused to address the issue until it was too late for her fix the situation.

She survived the process, but too many bridges were burned for her to recover. Thankfully she was able to move on.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
72. Its sobering to think how quickly and thoroughly a person with BPD can destroy their own life.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:28 PM
Jan 2018

Years of hard work, research and study, and the long-term creation of social support network, can all vanish overnight.

It does tend to run in families. I’m glad to hear that your friend was able to move on from her ordeal and hopefully maintain a healthy balance to avoid relapses. It must have been hell for her.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
73. Thats always a possibility in the loving, tolerant, beacon of hope that is America.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jan 2018

And yes, I’m snarking at the disconnect of our American “ideals” versus actual practice, as seen in the “deep thoughts” of the FAKE PRESIDENT and his supporters.

But this particular “drunken racist shithead” from New Jersey really did a thorough and swift job of torpedoing her own life in numerous areas, all at once. It’s like a form of half-suicide. She’s now earned her standing as an outcast, and will be one for some time. Such wide-swinging, self-destructive behaviors are often the signals of deeper trouble than mere boozy stupidity.

As for drinking, the bipolar-support site BPHope states that it spells trouble for BPD sufferers: https://www.bphope.com/bipolar-alcohol-decision-drink/
“Sober Consideration: Bipolar, Alcohol & the Decision to Drink— The standard advice about drinking when you have bipolar is to avoid alcohol altogether...”
<snip>
Is it ever OK to imbibe if you have bipolar? On a case-by-case basis, there may be some give in the blanket prohibition—but there is persuasive evidence for being a teetotaler.
<snip>

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
78. :) Yes. But, "often the signals of deeper trouble."
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:05 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:52 AM - Edit history (1)

It really looks like that is a possibility here. She was speaking very clearly and could not have been so drunk she completely forgot how people "like her" behave. She didn't just break a big rule, she practically used the violation as a pom-pom as she loudly cheered breaking it to as many people as possible.

Although bipolar's been talked about here, something else could be that "deeper trouble." And again, being a racist shithead is not protection against mental disorder. Both can, in fact, be symptoms of some serious personality disorders.

(Not that I'm suggesting PD here. If this girl had a personality disorder that caused that behavior she'd never have made into that sorority. They're disorders because destructive behaviors are not turn-on/turn-off. Although, it is possible to have a PD AND other mental problems.)

You know, the antiintellectualism and punitive attitudes pushed by some on the right have stifled discussion of mental disorders that strongly affect behaviors. That type wants people who break the law strongly punished, not treated. But mental disorders and disturbances are very common. I've only read some on this subject, but every time I did memories of people I've known popped up, along with the "oh!" of beginnings of insight.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
38. I doubt that
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:35 AM
Jan 2018

It sounds like she's actually pretty upset about being kicked out as evidenced by her way too little, way too late apology. More likely is just that she's so used to her white privilege and like many racists, so emboldened by Dumps presidency that she thought she was immune to consequences.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
37. If you aren't a psychiatrist/psychologist
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:20 AM
Jan 2018

Please stop making "mental health" excuses for this girl. I'm bipolar myself, and find this sort of speculation to excuse racism insulting.

That is for the multiple people calling her bipolar. Being a drunk millenial racist with bad fashion sense does not make her bi-polar. As for the video, she's young. There's an excessive amount of live streaming, tweeting, taking selfies, etc. and posting that shit for the world to see. Lots out there will publically post things that would have been private in the past. It's just a common social media problem.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
41. Thank you
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jan 2018

I dated a girl with bipolar disorder. A few times she didn't take her meds and whoa, look out. Massive amount of crazy. But one thing she was not was a racist, and even in the midst of her worst outbreaks, she never resorted to making wild racist rants. Bipolar disorder does not suddenly make you racist. It may remove filters that a racist may have otherwise learned to develop, but it doesn't magically make you a racist.

Blaming this girls behavior on bipolar disorder is just another form of excusing her behavoir and another form of white privlege.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Bipolar is a not subject I know about. Not like you guys.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jan 2018

BUT, could there possibly be such a thing as someone who is both profoundly racist AND "bipolar?"

Surely bipolar disorder doesn't preclude racism...?

The idea isn't that bipolar swings create racism but that, where it exists, emotions arising from hostile biases might become more freely expressed.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
56. Absolutely. Hence my comment:
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jan 2018

"It may remove filters that a racist may have otherwise learned to develop, but it doesn't magically make you a racist."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Exactly. And NO one said it did. But since others
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jan 2018

might stumble into that hole also, it was worth clearing up and restating.

Personally, amid all the righteous flaming of this stranger by strangers, I felt that pointing out that we should hold judgment because there might be factors involved that we don't know about was a good thing.

Also imo, Bradical would do better to take note of some of the other reactions: excited hostile passions, a righteousness that admits no need for quarter, straight to jail, under the bus, life in permanent ruins, whatever angry fantasy is most satisfying.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
69. That's really too bad. Hoping somehow college would work out.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:07 PM
Jan 2018

Well, she's young and it's not her last chance, or even close.

Reminds me, though, of the paid archaeological dig/excursion a couple of friends went on. One of their group, a similarly young woman who'd come from China no less, decompensated somewhere in the back of beyond in Mexico. She was best-guess schizophrenic and perhaps whatever else. Disrupting wasn't the word, poor everybody. Three days later they were still trying to contact the parents, who'd presumably hoped everything would be okay, when our friends hitched a jeep ride out.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
44. I was thinking she might have a career on Fox News,
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jan 2018

but I looked at the videos, and she's not quite their type, so good luck in her future employment as a janitor or something.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
49. Here is my take-away.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jan 2018

"What’s even more damning, and perplexing, is that she recored and posted the videos herself."

When the cameras are off all of the people around her are comfortable with this type of language. She posted them herself because the people around her had already confirmed her thoughts as being acceptable.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
68. She.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:06 PM
Jan 2018

Did the ole "I am horrified, that just wasn't who I am" routine after she got outed. She CLEARLY intended that her vileness would only be shared by people that she thought were all like her, but all of them were not.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
80. to say BPD is an excuse
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:23 AM
Jan 2018

is an insult to the many people who, despite it, happen to live normal, decent lives.

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