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Connellsville Area School District in Connellsville, PA....their Patriot Club is selling these signs (Original Post) Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 OP
Wouldnt it be cool if by morning MLAA Jan 2018 #1
It's what it should say. Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #2
Um, ...the land of the FREE!!!!!..with liberty and justice for ALL!!!!!!! Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #3
I get your point GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #4
My point is the school should not be involved in selling these signs. Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #8
I didn't see anything where FreedomofSpeech said anything whatsoever of being IN FAVOR... strongermessage Jan 2018 #16
I understand and Im one sense agree GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #23
Who is arguing the Democratic party wants to be in favor of sitting for the two? LanternWaste Jan 2018 #21
No one that I have seen. strongermessage Jan 2018 #26
Connellsville is one of those PA towns where reporters love to go on Cletus safaris. Efilroft Sul Jan 2018 #5
You are right... Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #10
meh struggle4progress Jan 2018 #6
Maybe the new Real Patriots Club SharonClark Jan 2018 #7
Exactly. Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #9
So they can get political if you approve. mythology Jan 2018 #11
Of course bit what is political about the Constitution ? Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #14
The point is that school districts should not be making political statements. strongermessage Jan 2018 #17
I have no problem with the signs so long as... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2018 #12
My mother was born and raised in Connellsville, PA. MariaCSR Jan 2018 #13
Look for it to be a big issue in the mid-terms. Republican's are masters at this stuff. jalan48 Jan 2018 #15
Promotes religion - what about the kids who don't stand due to faith? hexola Jan 2018 #18
The outskirts of Shithole, PA... hexola Jan 2018 #19
Short answer: Well, la-de-dah for them gratuitous Jan 2018 #20
What's the problem? Orrex Jan 2018 #22
The problem is that this sign is being sold as part of a public school fundraiser. strongermessage Jan 2018 #24
Ah. Absent a link in the OP, I didn't see that detail. Orrex Jan 2018 #25

Freedomofspeech

(4,226 posts)
2. It's what it should say.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:31 PM
Jan 2018

The school should not be involved in politics...this is so divisive. Last year they had a Hillbilly night at a basketball game and chanted Build the Wall at black players on the other team.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
3. Um, ...the land of the FREE!!!!!..with liberty and justice for ALL!!!!!!!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:33 PM
Jan 2018

Guess they vote Democratic.

*****I honestly read it as the House stands/exists because of those things (not anything about the people living inside it)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
4. I get your point
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jan 2018

But if we become the party IN FAVOR of sitting for the two, what are our electoral chances?

I support those who kneel. I stand and alway will.

strongermessage

(284 posts)
16. I didn't see anything where FreedomofSpeech said anything whatsoever of being IN FAVOR...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:11 PM
Jan 2018

of sitting for the Pledge or the National Anthem. What I did see was that a school district, which is to be non-partisan, allowed a sponsor of a club, under the guise of raising funds, to interject and display his or her political beliefs throughout the community.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. I understand and Im one sense agree
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jan 2018

But in many of the places I have lived, huge majorities of both political parties would find the idea that standing for the anthem is in anyway political is just crazy. It is just what people do.

I do not agree with that assessment. But it is an issue that can do nothing but hurt us.
These are areas of the country it is looking like we may complete in for the first time in a generation. This issue would not be worth falling on our sword.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Who is arguing the Democratic party wants to be in favor of sitting for the two?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

Who specifically is arguing the Democratic party wants to be in favor of sitting for the two?

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
5. Connellsville is one of those PA towns where reporters love to go on Cletus safaris.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:50 PM
Jan 2018

They're about as fanatical for Trump as you can get down there in Fayette County. We've always referred to them as the Fayette Cong.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
12. I have no problem with the signs so long as...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jan 2018

...they also sell signs for the neighbors which read, “Okay, so what’s your point?”

 

MariaCSR

(642 posts)
13. My mother was born and raised in Connellsville, PA.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jan 2018

I wonder what she'd think of this, may she rest in peace.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
18. Promotes religion - what about the kids who don't stand due to faith?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

This is maligning the kids who don't stand for religious reasons - and pushes this action closer to state endorsed religion.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Short answer: Well, la-de-dah for them
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

It's a fragile kind of patriotism that has to be so defensive. I wonder if they take the pledge seriously, especially that notion of "liberty and justice for all"?

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
22. What's the problem?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jan 2018

The person who posts this sign is making a personal declaration, presumably on their own property.

If they want to stand, then good for them. If they don't want to stand, then good for them.

As long as they aren't dictating policy for others, then this is clearly covered by your screen-name.

strongermessage

(284 posts)
24. The problem is that this sign is being sold as part of a public school fundraiser.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:32 PM
Jan 2018

In this sense, the school district is endorsing a political position that would deny the freedom of speech of those who protest and the freedom of religion for those who don't stand because of their beliefs. If someone wants to announce to the world what is on the sign so be it, but public school districts should not be taking partisan political positions.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
25. Ah. Absent a link in the OP, I didn't see that detail.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jan 2018

I thought that "The Patriot Club" was simply some kind of self-congratulating clique within the district, rather than a formal part of the school system.

In that case, the school certainly shouldn't allow it.

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