Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
142 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Whoa. All I can say is Cory Booker for President. (Original Post) mainer Jan 2018 OP
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #1
When he says you are under oath askyagerz Jan 2018 #25
Another tell davekriss Jan 2018 #116
Please let those of us without access to Twitter in the office NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #2
Does the video not show up for you? mainer Jan 2018 #9
No NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #21
Are you at work? WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2018 #123
When I'm home NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #137
I read it just fine True Blue American Jan 2018 #39
I'm sure it'll be on youtube in a little while. Kamala Harris' is there already. George II Jan 2018 #40
Help those of us with presently inadequate connections with a link Hekate Jan 2018 #79
Here's another link to the video. mainer Jan 2018 #13
Wow! 2naSalit Jan 2018 #111
Booker is passionately condemning 45's vile bigotry and Homeland Security nominee Nielson"s Tanuki Jan 2018 #15
Durbin pinned her down on the strong language. True Blue American Jan 2018 #41
When ignorance and bigotry is aligned with power it becomes the most bettyellen Jan 2018 #34
These filthy fucking racist TRAITORS are pushing us into confrontation. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #3
Non-violent confrontation is long past due Juliusseizure Jan 2018 #114
I'm fine with Booker running for prez ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #4
Democrats in Washington are delusional LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #37
Remember the "elitist" meme from the months just after the election? ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #55
Exactly! BigOleDummy Jan 2018 #117
Damn straight, he is EXACTLY what we need. He called her out, no crude language necessary. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #95
To me, theres no longer a cap on Fiery. Never was, but thats me. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #135
Go Cory... ON FIRE! Zoonart Jan 2018 #5
Always been a fan of Booker's strength, forthright-ness, and language BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #6
In all frankness, if you're representing the NY/NJ area, "big money" is part of your constituency. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #52
agreed BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #54
Big Pharma too. CentralMass Jan 2018 #83
He has a huge number of constituents in NJ that work in pharma ehrnst Jan 2018 #139
Look at his constituency crazycatlady Jan 2018 #85
Bookmarked for later. n/t Martin Eden Jan 2018 #7
She looked like she wanted the ground to open and swallow her up. sunonmars Jan 2018 #8
That was great - I hope that Nielsen feels ashamed for her complicity Shaddox Jan 2018 #10
With all due respect... brooklynite Jan 2018 #11
he's rated as the 6th most liberal senator currently NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #23
The OP didnt discuss anything other than his questioning... brooklynite Jan 2018 #28
Well they were also parroting a dishonest story about pharma votes. bettyellen Jan 2018 #36
I love Cory. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #43
he was amazing today. bettyellen Jan 2018 #51
DT had tons of managerial experience. George W. Bush had run businesses. pnwmom Jan 2018 #38
I would enjoy seeing him throw his hat in the ring. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #12
YESSSS!!!!! ailsagirl Jan 2018 #31
I use to find him kind of fake-ish, but I'm warming up to him. phleshdef Jan 2018 #14
Ive been listening to the hearing since Leahys first round of questioning. MLAA Jan 2018 #16
The whole "megillah", here. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2018 #17
God, he's electrifying ailsagirl Jan 2018 #30
She roller her eyes at him!!! LittleGirl Jan 2018 #53
I know! We saw that as well!...totally disrespectful.... Upthevibe Jan 2018 #66
Thank you. That's electrifying! longship Jan 2018 #86
I understand some Dems are in red states awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #18
He is speaking for me and most of the people I know. Im older, white and most of all I am the Augiedog Jan 2018 #19
He speaks for me and for the parents I had. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #94
They never seem to have a problem lying for Trump Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2018 #20
2 possible problems with Booker- suppot pf charter school movement, connection to RW church movement bobbieinok Jan 2018 #22
8 articles at talk2action appear when searching for 'Cory Booker' bobbieinok Jan 2018 #29
Well, I won't vote for him. Charter schools are not something I can support. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #45
So, if it's Booker versus Trump, you'll----------what? nt Atticus Jan 2018 #97
Stay home! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #98
Oh so you'll help Trump. Good to know. EllieBC Jan 2018 #99
Is there any *X For president* thread on DU that DOESN'T have someone claiming they'll stay home? musicblind Jan 2018 #100
Oh, come on. Go easy. The poster has been here less than 2 months... GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #115
There are simply certain basic concepts that the Democratic Party stands for. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #121
Go back and read the TOS for DU. Staying home in lieu of voting for a Dem in the GE ... Hekate Jan 2018 #125
You won't vote for him based on one claim in a DU post? mcar Jan 2018 #101
No. Sorry. But I won't vote for him if he supports charter schools unless the schools Sophia4 Jan 2018 #119
I'm against charter schools too mcar Jan 2018 #120
I don't like what I have seen of him, but I still might vote for him. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #122
Do your own research and return here with links before seizing on one online rumor... Hekate Jan 2018 #126
Obama and Arne Duncan loved Charters as well... vi5 Jan 2018 #61
Make that 3. He was on the bandwagon to get rid of Franken. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #71
Yes! CommonSenseMom Jan 2018 #24
Seriously? Which "cowardly" and spineless Democrats did you have in mind? NurseJackie Jan 2018 #91
We have any number of Dem officeholders and former officeholders who speak up DAILY... Hekate Jan 2018 #127
Booker/Yates MissKat Jan 2018 #26
Yates is a good choice too..yates..harris...we have so many good PASSIONATE ppl.. samnsara Jan 2018 #62
EXACTLY what I was thinking! mainer Jan 2018 #69
I watched the whole hearing and cried all through Booker's speech. lamp_shade Jan 2018 #27
I can see why!!!! WOW ailsagirl Jan 2018 #33
Good for Cory Booker. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #32
That was powerful! mcar Jan 2018 #35
She is complicant and should be called out and shamed.. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #42
Let's have a open primary in the presidential election. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #44
Any Dems would be running against an incumbent GOP pres. Thats an open... Hekate Jan 2018 #82
I agree with you -- a whole bunch of excellent Dems primarying. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #84
Open primaries. No, we went thru that in 2016. We need Dems voting... brush Jan 2018 #129
Yes radical noodle Jan 2018 #141
Tell 'em Booker! withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #46
KICK ailsagirl Jan 2018 #47
That's the kind of response we need to see. More like this! Demit Jan 2018 #48
Thank you, Cory Booker. Paladin Jan 2018 #49
I'd certainly welcome it. Music Man Jan 2018 #50
he is astounding trueblue2007 Jan 2018 #56
I like Booker a lot... vi5 Jan 2018 #57
"You're a threat to this country" Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #58
my thoughts exactly!!!!!.... samnsara Jan 2018 #59
Awesome job by Booker - but did you catch Neilson's eyeroll? Victory at Yorktown Jan 2018 #60
I think Booker may be the Democratic candidate that could win by the largest margin MrPurple Jan 2018 #63
My son was his constituent when Booker was mayor mainer Jan 2018 #67
I first became aware of him when I watched the documentary "Street Fight" MrPurple Jan 2018 #74
I met Booker back in 2009 crazycatlady Jan 2018 #87
Nope. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #110
Wow cp Jan 2018 #64
Trump's Accomplices Are Truly Scum SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #65
I think he was on the get-rid-of-Franken bandwagon. So he's a no-go for me. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #68
Best fact-check that before deciding then. Nonetheless, we have a deep bench of excellent Dems... Hekate Jan 2018 #128
GOOD FOR HIM! GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #70
YESSSSS! rurallib Jan 2018 #72
I've been pimping a Booker run since I saw an interview with him bout 6 mos back ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #73
Part of the Franken Railroad Crew... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #75
Yes. He's a non-starter. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #108
Like the Castro Bros. LakeArenal Jan 2018 #109
Must watch later. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #76
Yes! PoorMonger Jan 2018 #77
Oh, dear God, PLEASE no. PLEASE. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #78
What's what you call taking to the woodshed n/t hibbing Jan 2018 #80
Like MLK, Booker has command of the rhythm of effective preaching. He doesn't tblue37 Jan 2018 #81
President Booker. I'd zentrum Jan 2018 #88
I'll take a hard pass, thanks PDittie Jan 2018 #89
Not that long ago, so very very many DUers were calling him a moderate corporate sellout Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #90
People are still calling him that oberliner Jan 2018 #133
Whatz her face: "Abba abba doo blawblawblaw blub blub..." sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #92
Best thing I have seen in a VERY LONG TIME. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #93
I first came to notice Cory Booker in 2012 when he ran into a burning house to save a woman BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #96
He very well might be the star nominee. bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #102
There are folks on DU who will only accept one candidate GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #106
Putting all of one's eggs in one basket makes one a Putin troll ot tool BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #124
me too me too me too!!!!! samnsara Jan 2018 #103
hes on again hes on again he on again samnsara Jan 2018 #104
Well I think greymattermom Jan 2018 #105
Well, that's certainly the reaction he sought misanthrope Jan 2018 #107
Yes, but nothing wrong with that Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #112
Booker's very solid on social issues tilsammans Jan 2018 #113
Take a breath !!! Dolly123Jimmy Jan 2018 #118
+1 PDittie Jan 2018 #132
sharod brown would win AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #130
Last year, first night of convention JNelson6563 Jan 2018 #131
She rolled his eyes at him oberliner Jan 2018 #134
I see a lot of progressives bashing Booker Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #136
"so called progressives"...not what a call a real progressive or a true progressive BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #140
strong heaven05 Jan 2018 #138
I'd vote for him. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2018 #142

askyagerz

(776 posts)
25. When he says you are under oath
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jan 2018

and she swallows and starts figiting is a sure tell she's lying. My kids did a better job then that when they were little.

davekriss

(4,618 posts)
116. Another tell
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jan 2018

Watch her eyes when Cory Booker says something like, your silence makes you complicit. Her eyes dart downward. It registered. Of course, as a seasoned Republican her shame was only momentary. But it registered.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. Please let those of us without access to Twitter in the office
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jan 2018

know what was said.

I've liked Booker since the 2016 DNC speech, which is why he was targeted online early last year by some claiming to be progressives (with a deceptive meme on pharmaceutical donations)

mainer

(12,022 posts)
9. Does the video not show up for you?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

I'm sorry -- the embedded video itself appears in the DU post, but maybe it's only because I have a Twitter account. Let me know if it doesn't show up for you, and I'll figure out how to post the video separately.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. No
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:32 PM
Jan 2018

all I get is a blue link that says "link to Twitter" and if I click on it, it says that this say is restricted

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
123. Are you at work?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jan 2018

I get the same thing at work, but it links up fine at home. I'm not on Twitter, either.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
111. Wow!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jan 2018

Yeah, he's on it. That's the best version I've seen so far, I'm trying to find what he says right after that because He turns to the chair and starts to talk about his gratitude for being on that committee... but most cut it off there.

Thanks for posting that.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
15. Booker is passionately condemning 45's vile bigotry and Homeland Security nominee Nielson"s
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

complicity in that she has coyly stayed she "doesn't remember' the shithole remarks at the meeting, which she attended. He is stating the threats to Americans of minority backgrounds in no uncertain terms and says Nielson's silence and unwillingness to take a stand make her a threat to national security. He is on fire!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
41. Durbin pinned her down on the strong language.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jan 2018

He asked if she heard him use that kind of language, she said no. Did you hear Senator Graham? No.

So who was left? Cotton,Perdue,Goodlatte.

BTW, John Kelly spoke. He is a hard liner,too!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
34. When ignorance and bigotry is aligned with power it becomes the most
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jan 2018

Dangerous force in this country (may not be word of record)

“Your amnesia and your silence is complicit”

He was pissed off. Wow.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
114. Non-violent confrontation is long past due
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jan 2018

Assertiveness is a more appropriate term, but I, frankly, am just as exhausted by the dems extreme reluctance to engage in confrontation, as I am by Trump's daily, aggressive exuberant confrontation of all things sacred and dearly held.

President Obama, unfortunately, is symbolic of it to me. It was not only against his nature to confront, he was inhibited from doing so because of the angry black man stereotype. I honor him for him for shredding that stereotype, BUT, we are being attacked. I wants dems to express actual, normal rage, and call them out. The people hunger for leadership like that.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. I'm fine with Booker running for prez
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jan 2018

A lot of people think he's too fiery, but I believe that's exactly what we need.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
37. Democrats in Washington are delusional
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jan 2018

It sure seems that they have misread the public's ability to accept strong language even when every Democrat voter is roundly cursing their TVs back home. They cling to this illusion that every word must be carefully parsed and said clean as a whistle. Every emotion tampered down so as not to be labeled the "angry liberal" . Even Obama was at times excruciatingly reserved in the face of the most vulgar lies. But maybe things are changing.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
55. Remember the "elitist" meme from the months just after the election?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

I think there is a connection between our tempered rhetoric and the illusion of being elitist. Real people get upset and want to rail against the establishment. A calm demeanor does not resonate with the public because it is seen as being aloof or even divorced from reality.

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
117. Exactly!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:02 PM
Jan 2018

I'm mad as hell and our leadership should be too. Mr. Booker show's the anger that we feel about what is happening to our country. If losing our rights and freedoms aren't enough to make us howl in anger then we'll go down with a whimper.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
95. Damn straight, he is EXACTLY what we need. He called her out, no crude language necessary.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jan 2018

Just. Facts.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
135. To me, theres no longer a cap on Fiery. Never was, but thats me.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jan 2018

I wish I had reasonable explanations for why he voted with Big Pharma last year. That conflicts me about him.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
6. Always been a fan of Booker's strength, forthright-ness, and language
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jan 2018

I would not be adverse to a Booker run.

However, and admitting no one on the Hill is perfect, he is starting to be associated with big money. I hope he is using them for campaign funds, more aggressively than they are using him.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
52. In all frankness, if you're representing the NY/NJ area, "big money" is part of your constituency.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

It's a fine line to walk, and being associated with them isn't a deal-breaker for me. As long as he isn't their servant I can live with it.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
139. He has a huge number of constituents in NJ that work in pharma
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jan 2018

He is their rep. If anyone thinks that not going to war against the employers of his constituents is = to "corruption," they don't understand what Representation means, politically.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
85. Look at his constituency
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 06:07 PM
Jan 2018

His state includes a lot of people who work for Wall Street (short train commute) and Big Pharma (many who have HQ in NJ).

He's simply representing the interests of his state. It is no different than Joe Manchin having more favorable views on coal than Elizabeth Warren.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
11. With all due respect...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jan 2018

The President's job isn't to interrogate witnesses at a Senate hearing. How about considering his 1) policies and 2) managerial experience before endorsing him based on his oratory?

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
28. The OP didnt discuss anything other than his questioning...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jan 2018

(FWIW-it wasn’t too long ago that folks here thought Booker was “too corporate”.....)

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
38. DT had tons of managerial experience. George W. Bush had run businesses.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jan 2018

But people criticized Obama, the community organizer and State Senator, for not having had any managerial experience.

And yet I remember a certain speech . . . .

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
16. Ive been listening to the hearing since Leahys first round of questioning.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

Sen. Booker was outstanding. Hopefully his statement will be replayed and quoted extensively. It was heartfelt and right on the money.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
66. I know! We saw that as well!...totally disrespectful....
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jan 2018

I hope Rachel or someone brings that up (I think Ari might be the one who would most likely to).

longship

(40,416 posts)
86. Thank you. That's electrifying!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 06:12 PM
Jan 2018

The entire speech. Sen. Booker had no intention of asking a question. He wanted to excoriate her. That, hopefully he accomplished.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
18. I understand some Dems are in red states
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:04 PM
Jan 2018

and need to tread a fine line ( I prefer ANY democrat to 99.999999 of the current "gop&quot

but if not, this is the type of fire I expect from our Dems. This is NOT normal DHS secretary. This white supremacist bullshit IS NOT NORMAL. Fuck your 26% base. This is not acceptable.

Booker, keep this up:

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
19. He is speaking for me and most of the people I know. Im older, white and most of all I am the
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:26 PM
Jan 2018

most dangerous thing to the existence of the the Republican Party. I am educated!

sprinkleeninow

(20,251 posts)
94. He speaks for me and for the parents I had.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jan 2018

Seasoned 'elder', Slavic Carpathian Mountain heritage, Eastern Orthodox Christian, lighter shade of dark person here. Oh yeah, female.

He is speaking for me, for my parents memory.

You rock, Cory! Fire!

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
22. 2 possible problems with Booker- suppot pf charter school movement, connection to RW church movement
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:33 PM
Jan 2018

* IIRC there's lots of documentation re connection to charter school movement.

* There were several posts about the RW church connection at 'talk2action'. IIRC the movement is the New Apostolic Reformation, a group with some seriously strange views. I believe Sarah Palin was connected with that group. (I'll look for links about this.)

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
45. Well, I won't vote for him. Charter schools are not something I can support.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jan 2018

What is his connection to the RW church?

I'd want to know the details.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
100. Is there any *X For president* thread on DU that DOESN'T have someone claiming they'll stay home?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jan 2018

People in the Kamala Harris one were upset about her DA record, the Oprah one were upset over ties to pseudoscience, the Biden one, and now this?

Are you guys just Bernie or Busters or Hillary stans who are upset she didn't win or is there a purity test bingo card I'm unaware of?

This "nobody is good enough for my vote" behavior is starting to border on irrational. It gave us DONALD TRUMP!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
115. Oh, come on. Go easy. The poster has been here less than 2 months...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
Jan 2018

And only has ALMOST 700 posts!

Busy little beaver. Makes one think that operation tear down the opposition has already started.

Sorry I can’t say that in Russian.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
121. There are simply certain basic concepts that the Democratic Party stands for.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jan 2018

And if candidates don't stand for them, then maybe they aren't Democrats, and maybe we shouldn't vote for them.

Standing up for the Teachers' Union and other unions is just basic to being a Democrat. Charter schools in many cases exist because they don't want to hire union teachers. A candidate who supports those schools is not, therefore, in my opinion, enough of a Democrat to deserve my vote.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
125. Go back and read the TOS for DU. Staying home in lieu of voting for a Dem in the GE ...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:39 AM
Jan 2018

...is not an option. Support whoever you like in the primaries, but pull together for the Dem nominee in the general election. Period. We have suffered enough.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
119. No. Sorry. But I won't vote for him if he supports charter schools unless the schools
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:23 PM
Jan 2018

are carefully supervised by state and local school boards and governments.

For me, charter schools are just an excuse to ignore teachers' unions and the working conditions and rights of teachers. And I don't think a person can run as a Democrat while advocating for organizations that do not recognize unions like teachers' unions or the rights of employees. Charter schools are notorious in this respect.

Other than a brief period working as a substitute, I never taught school, but when I was in college, I took the education courses to prepare to teach. Some charter schools hire teachers who do not have teaching certificates because they didn't take the education courses. I was very impressed by what I learned in those courses and would not want children to be taught by "teachers" who did not take the courses. Knowing how students learn is essential to being a good teacher. So is understanding child development.

I wouldn't want an accountant who had not studied arithmetic. I don't want teachers who haven't studied education.

And I won't vote for a person who calls him- or herself a Democrat but doesn't support unions including the Teachers' Union.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
120. I'm against charter schools too
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jan 2018

I'm not seeing where Booker is anti teachers union.

I look at a potential candidate's whole body of work and experience.

Are you really saying you won't vote for him if he's the D nominee in 2020?

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
122. I don't like what I have seen of him, but I still might vote for him.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:28 PM
Jan 2018

This conversation started because someone posted that he supports charter schools. If he doesn't, I will consider him. But so far, from what little I have seen of him, I'm not at all impressed.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
126. Do your own research and return here with links before seizing on one online rumor...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:45 AM
Jan 2018

...and running all over the place with it as though it was gospel truth, Sophie4.

Booker is not currently running for POTUS. 2018 is a midterm election year, not a presidential election year. Booker has not been nominated for POTUS. 2020 is a lifetime away.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
61. Obama and Arne Duncan loved Charters as well...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jan 2018

I can't speak to the second issue. But as for Charters, I loathe them. I think they are a scourge on America's educational system and a scam that uses faux sympathy for the poor to justify their shittiness.

That being said, I had the same problem with Arne Duncan, Pres Obama's education secretary. Unfortunately public schools are also being thrown under the bus because of the Democratic parties insistence on keeping unions at arm's length except when they need donations.

CommonSenseMom

(43 posts)
24. Yes!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jan 2018

We need every democrat and independent to have the courage to do exactly this. Every time. To every one of them. Make them sorry they forgot they had a spine.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
91. Seriously? Which "cowardly" and spineless Democrats did you have in mind?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:32 PM
Jan 2018
To every one of them. Make them sorry they forgot they had a spine.
Seriously? Which "cowardly" Democrats did you have in mind? Or were you suggesting that ALL of them, generally, have no spine?

I have to be honest with you. These types of smears and insults on Democrats do not help anything, and cause distrust. That divides us and weakens us as a party.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
127. We have any number of Dem officeholders and former officeholders who speak up DAILY...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:53 AM
Jan 2018

...and courageously. Last year I posted list after list of them, every time someone whined that "nobody" was doing/saying "anything." I'll do it again this year.

Dems are a minority in both houses of Congress, and do not have the votes to pass legislation by themselves. Just a fact of life. When it comes to the GOP agenda, Dems refuse to vote for it. Thanks to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, Dems are holding the line. If the GOP wants to wreck this nation, they will have to proceed without a single vote from any Democrat.

Welcome to DU, CommonSenseMom, where we support Democrats and the Democratic Party.

MissKat

(218 posts)
26. Booker/Yates
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jan 2018

What a force that would be.

The North and the South.

I think this could work. I love Oprah, but that's not what we need.

There are so many termites that the Orange Blunder has inserted. . . we'll need a serious pest control team to root them out.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
62. Yates is a good choice too..yates..harris...we have so many good PASSIONATE ppl..
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jan 2018

...who have paid their dues and know what DC is about...

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
44. Let's have a open primary in the presidential election.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jan 2018

I don't know much about Cory Booker although I follow Democratic Party politics pretty carefully.

Where does he stand on single payer health insurance?

What proposals does he have for improving the situation of American working people -- not just union members but office workers, retail workers, food services workers, all workers?

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
82. Any Dems would be running against an incumbent GOP pres. Thats an open...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jan 2018

...primary by definition. I’m not sure what you mean. I hope to see a whole bunch of excellent Dems primarying in 2020.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
84. I agree with you -- a whole bunch of excellent Dems primarying.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jan 2018

Let's have a dramatic 2020.

And now, back to the elections this year.

brush

(53,787 posts)
129. Open primaries. No, we went thru that in 2016. We need Dems voting...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:59 AM
Jan 2018

on Democratic candidates not outsiders with anti-Dem agendas.

You're kinda new here. Odd idea to be pushing already.

The general election is there for non-Democrats to vote for Democrats.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
49. Thank you, Cory Booker.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

Thank you for giving such a perfect voice to the rage so many of us feel. Keep up the good work.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
50. I'd certainly welcome it.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

He is charismatic and generally left of center, which is all I'm looking for at this point. He would certainly fire up down-ballot races. Moreover, Hillary Clinton--who was as qualified as anyone for the presidency--had Booker on her VP shortlist, and that says a lot for his capabilities. He has experience on both the federal and local level and thus can speak to the issues that affect people on a day-to-day basis. Stanford, Yale, Oxford (as a Rhodes scholar). The guy just has so much going for him.

As a public school educator, I am quite passionate about education, and on the topic of charter schools, Booker is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. They remove vital public funding to create schools that are often exclusive, unaccountable, and just plain bad. Yes, private schools per se have a place in education, but there are ways of being innovative and meeting students' individual needs within the framework of public schools that don't take money away from struggling districts. You don't even need a teaching certification to teach at most charter schools. Charter schools are treated as panaceas, usually by people who have been categorically mistrustful of public institutions to begin with.

To be fair, even Bernie Sanders says he supports public charter schools. He, too, has bought the pablum about them.

He also shouldn't jump into the race until he and his people come up with a foolproof answer for questions he'll get about private equity following his Bain Capital flap in 2012. He eventually said that attacks on Romney's record at Bain were legitimate, and he was referring more to blanket attacks on private equity. I can appreciate that nuance, but he HAS to get this right, or he'll find himself on the wrong end of the anti-corporate zeitgeist.

Ultimately, I would love a President Booker because he would put the right people around him, be it in the Cabinet, Supreme Court, or other civil service positions. This is why I refuse to get hung up on my perfect candidate. A left-of-center Democrat who gets charter schools wrong is still preferable to anyone who would appoint Betsy Fucking Devos to education secretary. Booker is smart, passionate, qualified, and politically acceptable. I also think he would kick Trump's ass, and I'm ready for some comeuppance.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
57. I like Booker a lot...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jan 2018

..I'm a NJ resident who worked years in Newark. I don't agree with him on everything (he's pro-Charter schools and a little too corporate for my tastes), but I don't need to. I think his heart is always in the right place and I never doubt his sincerity in the least. I'd very much be able to get behind him as president.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
59. my thoughts exactly!!!!!....
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018

.....hes got guts..experience...youth... and his looks aint bad either. Something for EVERYBODY!! A Booker-Harris ticket....and I don't care which order.

60. Awesome job by Booker - but did you catch Neilson's eyeroll?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jan 2018

I caught it on MSNBC - these people are irredeemable.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
63. I think Booker may be the Democratic candidate that could win by the largest margin
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jan 2018

I'm not saying that you should assume that people are the same because of their race, but Booker vs. Trump would play like Obama 2.0 vs. Trump, and that's a big win. Get a Joe Biden like white rust belt VP to fill out the ticket - Sherrod Brown, Tim Ryan - it should be a slam dunk.

I know that some progressives dislike Booker because of some corporate ties, but 2018 & 2020 aren't just about winning, but about rolling up the largest possible coat tails in Congress, governorships & state legislatures so that we can undo gerrymandering as much as possible with the redistricting after the 2020 census. My choice for nominee is whoever appears that they can help generate the largest possible wave.

Booker genuinely did choose to live in the projects during his time as Mayor of Newark. It wasn't a stunt - he lived it. He has the passion and articulateness to really draw a following. He played football at Stanford, which should play well. Of the potential candidates, at this time, he seems to me like one that could win the most decisively.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
67. My son was his constituent when Booker was mayor
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jan 2018

and he remembers Booker being on the front lines when there was a winter storm and folks were snowed in. Booker was out there, trying to get streets cleared. Oh, and I seem to remember he actually ran into a building to save someone.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
74. I first became aware of him when I watched the documentary "Street Fight"
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jan 2018

about his first unsuccessful run for mayor against the really corrupt guy who preceded him. Lots of behind the scenes with Booker during the campaign and he comes off fantastically. It's hard to watch that and not think he'd be a great candidate.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
87. I met Booker back in 2009
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jan 2018

ANd I've met him a few other times at various NJ Dems events. A funny story from an event-- I had just bought a donkey lapel pin from a vendor. Right after I put it on my blazer, I hear a voice complementing me on it. I look up to realize that it was none other than Cory Booker who commented on my pin.

But back in 2009, I saw him do a GOTV rally for Jon Corzine. I was with my friend and the time and he and I both agreed that we saw a lot of Obama in him.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
110. Nope.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 09:52 PM
Jan 2018

I'll say the same about him as I've said about Elizabeth Warren...they may have the right positions on issues, they may have some experience, but they will never be President. They do well where they are, though.

(Also, both of them jumped on the bandwagon to oust Franken, which I believe was a Republican manipulation in part.)

cp

(6,636 posts)
64. Wow
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

Such fervor. He represented me, and I'm an older white woman from Wisconsin. Thank you, Senator Booker!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
68. I think he was on the get-rid-of-Franken bandwagon. So he's a no-go for me.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

There are a lot of talented, smart, charismatic Democrats with a clean history.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
128. Best fact-check that before deciding then. Nonetheless, we have a deep bench of excellent Dems...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:55 AM
Jan 2018

...who can be put into play.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
70. GOOD FOR HIM!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

I'm sick and tired of all this tiptoeing around by our elected officials.

I'm tired of all the tentative news headlines like, "Is Donald Trump a racist?" Of course he's a fucking racist, and so is everyone who works for him. Traitors, liars, racists. Anyone with the sense God gave a turnip knows this, and knew it years ago.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
73. I've been pimping a Booker run since I saw an interview with him bout 6 mos back ...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jan 2018

Forget who's show it was on, it was taped segment ... might've been Chelsea ... anyways, boy did he come across as well-spoken, very intelligent, and passionate about a lot of the things that matter to me.

He also seems very 'electable'.

I do think he rambles a little bit here ... but I love his passion and how unafraid he is to forcefully call it like he sees it.

Why is she 'under oath' on this BTW?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
108. Yes. He's a non-starter.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jan 2018

Pushed Franken out. Same ol' story as the same reason the others got on the bandwagon to push Franken out.

But even without that, I don't care for him. I don't see him as ever being President. It's also very difficult for a Senator with any time in the job to win the Presidency, because they have their history of votes that will be attacked.

I'm more interested in a governor who may run, maybe one of the Castro brothers, and some others.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
77. Yes!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:36 PM
Jan 2018

At this time I’d feel real good about the prospects of Booker / Harris or Harris / Booker on the ticket in 2020. I also like Sharrod Brown as a possible VP for either but I’m less confident about us holding that seat in Ohio if he had to vacate.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
78. Oh, dear God, PLEASE no. PLEASE.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jan 2018

Far too much of a corporatist.

I saw a brief clip of today -- will watch this later -- and he was great.

But he needs to be a LOT greater to win my support. NO CORPORATISM. No cuddling up to big business, big money, etc. No, No, NO!

And for God's sake, he needs to be man enough, and LIBERAL enough to label the bigot-in-chief a RACIST. He demurred on that today-- BULL F'ING SHIT. That's ludicrous. And indefensible.

tblue37

(65,404 posts)
81. Like MLK, Booker has command of the rhythm of effective preaching. He doesn't
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jan 2018

start by screaming and raging. Instead, he builds effectively to outrage from a calm starting point. By the time he has reached his last couple of minutes, any reachable viewer must have been infected by his fury and disgust.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
90. Not that long ago, so very very many DUers were calling him a moderate corporate sellout
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jan 2018

And I was one of them, I must admit...

Wonderful stuff....

sprinkleeninow

(20,251 posts)
92. Whatz her face: "Abba abba doo blawblawblaw blub blub..."
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jan 2018

This is>what's a stronger word than 'surreal'? Bizarro?

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
96. I first came to notice Cory Booker in 2012 when he ran into a burning house to save a woman
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jan 2018

At the risk of seeming too, too, too whatever....I had been watching and noticing him since. I was going to post a link to the burning house article, and in the mean time, found that he was the good guy, on several occasions:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cory-booker-rescues-a-freezing-dog-and-9-other-things-he-has-saved

<snip>
Booker responded to a tweet Thursday night from a concerned citizen who called authorities to rescue a dog named Cha Cha who was left outside in sub-zero temperatures. “I’ll head up myself & investigate,” Booker responded. And he did, saving the day—and the dog.

<Snip>
After returning home last April from running the city, Booker discovered his neighbor’s home was on fire. Promptly, he darted into the building, found the woman who was living there, and “just grabbed her and whipped her out of the bed,” he said, as America swooned. He suffered second-degree burns on his hand,


He could be a star Nominee for the Dems.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
102. He very well might be the star nominee.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 09:03 PM
Jan 2018

And there are still people in this thread who say they won't vote for him. Unreal.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
124. Putting all of one's eggs in one basket makes one a Putin troll ot tool
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:23 AM
Jan 2018

Makes no matter in the long run which one they are.

That is of course, until after the Primary. After the Primary they are either voting for a Dem or are a Putin troll or tool.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
107. Well, that's certainly the reaction he sought
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jan 2018

It was obvious he came prepared fully utilize the moment for his ambitions.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
112. Yes, but nothing wrong with that
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:06 PM
Jan 2018

He recognized the potential, which means his instincts are good.

That's more than I can say for some of our other prospective candidates in recent months.

I can support Booker. I wish he were a few inches taller. Trump would tower over him and that's not meaningless.

tilsammans

(2,549 posts)
113. Booker's very solid on social issues
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jan 2018

I like him, and I think he'd be a strong candidate. But he does have strong corporate ties, and he's been known to be anti-union and a proponent of charter schools. I'd like to see him evolve to embrace more progressive views.


Dolly123Jimmy

(26 posts)
118. Take a breath !!!
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jan 2018

Booker takes more money from BIG PHARMA than any Senator in the Senate...

He's also not a union guy...

relax and please do your homework..

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
130. sharod brown would win
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 03:56 AM
Jan 2018

even bannon said that. He would get some of the trump base, all of sanders coalition, more women than trump and all minorities AND will carry midwest.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
131. Last year, first night of convention
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:40 AM
Jan 2018

I was driving to work and tuned in on the radio. Booker was speaking when I tuned in. Had no idea who it was but was struck by how whoever it was sounded scared. Talking so fast and...well he just sounded terrified.

Of course later I learned how disruptive some had been. While some may see that as making his fear natural but I thought he failed completely to conceal it.

I came away very unimpressed. Remain so.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
136. I see a lot of progressives bashing Booker
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

Russia must already be attacking him with negative articles

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
140. "so called progressives"...not what a call a real progressive or a true progressive
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

attacking Booker and he hasn't even announced..kinda like the Oprah non announcement and the immediate and inevitable bashing.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
138. strong
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jan 2018

New blood infused into the Party by our influencing them to grow and lead. Hopefully one of satisfying competence and compassion among many coming along in our Party. Kamala Harris et al;....

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Whoa. All I can say is Co...