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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFranken for President. Waters for VP. (drops mic)
Besides the nearly-infinite levels of qualifications, and beyond merely the awesome and world-changing political movement they would represent, that would be the best hair ever on a presidential campaign team.
And before you dismiss it out of hand, America loves a comeback kid, to say nothing of one who proves his innocence and teams up with a kid who works her way thru adversity to take out the schoolyard bully. THAT's an American archetype right there.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)provides Republicans ready made attack ads against him. It doesn't matter that he was railroaded into resigning. He could conceivably run again for the Senate, but President? No. And too bad, because I'm rather fond of him.
Maxine Waters is already 79. Do we really want someone well into her 80's as VP? Really?
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)...as with Edwards' departure clearing the way for President Obama (who came from relative national obscurity).
A lightning rod is a good thing to have up to the primary.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)We tend to accept more limitations than we need to in pursuit of a higher-than-high ground. Let's perhaps stick to our strengths, keep our own coalition intact, and defend our own against attack.
The Republicans have mastered one tactic - not giving a shit what the opposition thinks and doing what they want. We are starting to catch on to the precedent they have set, to do what's right (a la Feinstein).
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)That does what its constituency wants and fights the fights it must on their behalf (not just the easy ones).
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)And how do you go about proving your innocence after you apologized for your behavior?
And how do you get the media to pay attention to any of your policy positions while you're doing so?
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)...as you have.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)Why would she be in the second spot instead of the first?
The Democratic Party has a lot to make up for with African American voters, especially female African American voters. Thinking of a powerhouse like Waters as the lesser of the two candidates is pretty insulting imo.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)Regardless of whether you feel he's been treated unfairly or not, he has been accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct. That will lose votes, no matter whether he was framed or not. I wouldn't even put him on as vp because of this stain--deserved or not--on his reputation.
Maxine Waters, otoh, is afaik unbesmirched by scandal and is a solid, outspoken, charismatic progressive, and women will vote for her.
And we owe it to African American women voters, plain and simple.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)would be phenomenal to see, but I think he could raise a whole lot more dough than she could - and sadly, that's a must.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)...fellow Dems stay home and blow this one off, as is their habit, we are going to lose our country.
No fantasy presidential teams just now. Just tell me how Dems are going to take back the House and Senate. This year.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And the more experienced black female at the bottom?
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)I like Franken, but it is over. I didn't agree with how it went down, but time to move on. We have to work to take the House and Senate in 18. All else just doesn't matter.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)lostnfound
(16,179 posts)I love Franken but he gave up on his senate seat, and the same team that pushed out would line up against him again.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)Actually, I think most americans would like someone who just came out and said, this happened and now I'm moving on. Just look right into the camera and take charge of the convo. It's political double-speak that we're all sick of!
I like Franken and if he can win, I'd sure vote for him.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)So far he's apologized for unspecified behavior. This is pure fantasy. Franken has no chance of being president.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)this is fantasy.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)People have a way of dismissing things as 'fantasy' that come to pass.
Best to check one's hubris.