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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:40 PM Jan 2018

Stable genius Donald Trump doesnt actually have an MBA from Wharton: report

President Donald Trump likes to brag about having gone to the Wharton School of Finance, a school known for their elite MBA program. As it turns out, however, Trump never got an MBA from the school.


In April 2016, while Trump was still duking it out for the Republican nomination, the Associated Press reported on Trump’s “complicated relationship” with Wharton. Though he regularly brought up the school, which is part of the University of Pennsylvania, Trump never received his master’s degree from Wharton School of business. In fact, his undergraduate degree isn’t even in business–it’s a bachelor of science in economics.

Earlier this week, Vanity Fair‘s Kurt Eichenwald resurrected Trump’s Wharton deception when the president slipped up and said “I went to the best colleges, or college.”

As Eichenwald pointed out on Twitter, Trump did indeed go to the famed institution, but only after transferring there from Fordham University, located in New York City. He “never made dean’s list,” though he claims to have graduated first in his class.

Wharton’s graduate business program is “the most highly respected” in the US, and mentions of “Wharton” typically denote that program. Trump, Eichenwald said, “has been tricking people” into believing he has an MBA from the revered school.

“Trump has no MBA,” Eichenwald tweeted. “He can’t read a balance sheet.”




https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/stable-genius-donald-trump-doesnt-actually-have-an-mba-from-wharton-report/
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Stable genius Donald Trump doesnt actually have an MBA from Wharton: report (Original Post) kpete Jan 2018 OP
K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #1
I thought this was generally known. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
As far as I know, it was never questioned once. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #25
Yes, it was pointed out... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #31
Trump also lied about Obama's academic career dalton99a Jan 2018 #34
Not only that. no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #3
,,, and making sure all teh tenants are white! Cryptoad Jan 2018 #5
He hung around just long enough Ilsa Jan 2018 #9
I agree with you. murielm99 Jan 2018 #21
(maybe he just has an economic degree in BS....?) lastlib Jan 2018 #33
Plus one of his professors there said PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #4
K&R 2naSalit Jan 2018 #6
He graduated Summa cum Barely.......? lastlib Jan 2018 #7
Actually, it was "mirabile dictu" gratuitous Jan 2018 #16
Nope leftieNanner Jan 2018 #22
Probably more like "Sumo cum loudly" geardaddy Jan 2018 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author ashling Jan 2018 #8
I am a Penn alum DFW Jan 2018 #10
So, is it possible at Penn to get an undergraduate business degree? unitedwethrive Jan 2018 #35
They only offer a BS in economics tammywammy Jan 2018 #37
As I remember it DFW Jan 2018 #41
Donald Rump is a liar. trueblue2007 Jan 2018 #11
I think you're onto something there. dchill Jan 2018 #15
Lyin' sack of Cheetos. "Cant read a balance sheet"? Can't read anything more than 140 characters. George II Jan 2018 #12
I never heard that he did Skittles Jan 2018 #13
No kidding. GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #14
While I would never opine that Shrub was superior in business than Drumpf, no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #17
Trump is the best thing to ever happen to Dubya's "legacy." maddiemom Jan 2018 #32
It really says something when you think of the administration of the Younger Bush Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2018 #38
K an R. Expose the lying imp. oasis Jan 2018 #18
Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #19
He seems to have a BS in BS; he is no Master debator. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #20
Shame on this man for telling lies all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! onecent Jan 2018 #23
Wharton's MBA program is famous for being heavily quantitative. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #24
Wharton should sue him for defamation. n/t Yavin4 Jan 2018 #26
stable Liar Cha Jan 2018 #27
I thought everybody already knew this. MoonRiver Jan 2018 #28
He only has a "Courtesy" Bachelor's degree, for that matter. MineralMan Jan 2018 #29
Ah, but Trump was at Penn for only two years! PJMcK Jan 2018 #40
I was stunned . . . peggysue2 Jan 2018 #36
The lsos has a real estate licence randr Jan 2018 #39

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
2. I thought this was generally known.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jan 2018

Trump never went to grad school. He graduated from the Wharton division of the University of PA with a bachelor's degree, but he's been riding on the cachet of Wharton's MBA program - he wants everybody to think he went through that program but he didn't. But I thought all this had been revealed and discussed long before the election.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. As far as I know, it was never questioned once.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jan 2018

The media never talked about it in his run-up to the election.

But we heard plenty about Obama's birth certificate.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
31. Yes, it was pointed out...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jan 2018

but the truth about Trump was somehow not very newsworthy and it got passed by.

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
3. Not only that.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:49 PM
Jan 2018

Trump couldn't get into Wharton without the help of an acquaintance of his brother, family business heir, Fred Trump, Jr.

And Trump never stayed on campus during the week-end for the benefit of research, reading, lectures, etc. He drove back to Brooklyn to work with his father, usually the menial job of collecting rents.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
9. He hung around just long enough
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 11:43 PM
Jan 2018

to give his assignments to a student paid to do his papers for him, I bet.

I'm having a hard time believing he has a BS in Economics.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
21. I agree with you.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:47 PM
Jan 2018

Economics is a tough discipline. I know a few people who majored in econ. All of them are smart. 45 is dumb.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
4. Plus one of his professors there said
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jan 2018

(and I think I've got it right) "He was the stupidest goddam student I ever had."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Actually, it was "mirabile dictu"
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:38 AM
Jan 2018

I wonder if Trump is going to try suing Kurt Eichenwald? He's on his "libel laws are too loose" kick again. Come on, Donald. Show the world your Wharton transcript. Imbecile.

Response to kpete (Original post)

DFW

(54,387 posts)
10. I am a Penn alum
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 11:58 PM
Jan 2018

Wharton is the business school of Penn, but in all but the most exceptional cases, an undergrad degree from Wharton does not confer an MBA on you, it just paves a smoother road on the way to one if you go on to an MBA graduate program. An undergrad degree in economics does not mean you get an MBA as a package deal. At Penn, to graduate at all (at least from my school, "the college" ), you needed a minimum of three semesters each in the humanities, social sciences and natural sciences.

For one of my social science semesters, I chose economics. It was taught in the Wharton building. My professor was a cool guy named Bill Whitney. He introduced himself by saying, "My name is Bill Whitney. I am your professor. Professor is my title, not my name, so please do not call me 'Professor.' My name is Bill, so please call me 'Bill.'" He was nice, smart, and tough as nails. I had to work my ass off just to get a B from him. With Trump's attention span, Bill Whitney would have flunked him out in a week's time. Well, if Trump's dad made a million dollar donation to the school, then maybe two weeks.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
35. So, is it possible at Penn to get an undergraduate business degree?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jan 2018

I realize that Trump's bachelors degree is in economics, but I'd like to know if an undergrad degree from Wharton is even offered. I went to Stanford, and there is no undergrad business degree there. Does he base the fact the "went to Wharton" on just having taken some classes in the same building?

DFW

(54,387 posts)
41. As I remember it
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 08:14 PM
Jan 2018

You could graduate from any of the undergrad divisions wirh a BA in your major, but it still only conferred an undergrad degree on you. Econ majors usually were Wharton grads, nerds like me were usually from "the college," physics majors were often fron the school of engineering, etc. But it was the graduate degrees that carried the weight. A JD from Penn Law was a big deal. An MBA from Wharton was a big deal. Communications fron Annenberg, MD from Penn Medical, etc. An undergrad degree from Wharton meant you took courses in econ and marketing, and had better than a C- GPA.

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
17. While I would never opine that Shrub was superior in business than Drumpf,
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:07 AM
Jan 2018

at least the former enrolled and completed the coursework for the MBA.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
32. Trump is the best thing to ever happen to Dubya's "legacy."
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jan 2018

In just one year, I'm not only missing Obama badly, I' m looking back at the G.W.B. years, and at the man, himself, with fondness and actual warmth. And I thought I despised him when he was in office.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. He seems to have a BS in BS; he is no Master debator.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jan 2018

Let's get his transcript. I'll bet it's a doozy.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
24. Wharton's MBA program is famous for being heavily quantitative.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

Trump has repeatedly demonstrated that he has no idea what numbers mean or how they relate to the real things or concepts that they describe.

He is notorious for throwing percentages and volumes into his speeches that either don't exist or, at times, even contradict what he's talking about.

I seriously doubt that he can even add two single-digit numbers together, if it results in a total of ten or greater.

He has always had people doing the math stuff for him.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
29. He only has a "Courtesy" Bachelor's degree, for that matter.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jan 2018

In Recognition of Your Four Year Stay at {insert name of University}...

The Regents Hereby Award You the Degree of Bachelor of {insert random major} as a Courtesy.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
40. Ah, but Trump was at Penn for only two years!
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jan 2018

His first two years were at Fordham, also an excellent school.

New Yorkers have known for decades that Trump didn't have an MBA.

He's a liar and an idiot.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
36. I was stunned . . .
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jan 2018

when I read Eichenwald's tweet because the Trumpster has always said he went to Wharton and Wharton is indeed a very prestigious graduate school, tough to get into. Then to find out, no Trump transferred to the University of Pennsylvania (not exactly a slouch school) but said Wharton because it sounded better. Meanwhile he accused Barack Obama of getting into Harvard only by virtue of his race.

He really is a lying toad.

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