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samsingh

(17,598 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:02 PM Jul 2012

When will America wake up to gun violence?

When will America wake up to gun violence?

Source: CNN Website

Consider what happened in Australia after a crazed gunman killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania, in 1996.

The Australian federal government persuaded all states and territories to implement tough new gun control laws. Under the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), firearms legislation was tightened throughout the country. National registration of guns was imposed and it became illegal to hold certain long guns that might be used in mass shootings.

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.

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The effect was that both gun suicides and homicides (as well as total suicides and homicides) fell. Importantly, while there were 13 mass shootings in Australia during the period of 1979--96, there have been none in the sixteen years since.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/opinion/donohue-gun-control/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7


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Here are some facts about the benefits of gun control in a short period of time.

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When will America wake up to gun violence? (Original Post) samsingh Jul 2012 OP
America is sliding backwards in every way while the world progresses around us. onehandle Jul 2012 #1
they might samsingh Jul 2012 #2
And lose their main source of funding? former9thward Jul 2012 #5
So you want the UN to wither and die? Why? nt hack89 Jul 2012 #6
Yes. That's exactly what I said. onehandle Jul 2012 #7
No - that would merely be the result. hack89 Jul 2012 #9
do i don't want the UN to wither away. I'm a supporter. samsingh Jul 2012 #10
That is what will happen if they kick America out of the UN. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #11
we don't want them to kick us out -we just said they might - they can't obviously samsingh Jul 2012 #15
"They should kick us out.." is what I was replying to. hack89 Jul 2012 #19
2PM on 14th of SoCalDem Jul 2012 #3
I'm thinking never. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #4
And stabbings and drunk driving deaths and...........*yawn* Tejas Jul 2012 #8
why do you sound so bored when we're trying to find ways to save human lives samsingh Jul 2012 #14
You rant about guns but won't touch the subject of violence. Tejas Jul 2012 #20
If that translates to, "pass meaningful gun control", the answer is Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #12
but it still means that gun control is working in Australia samsingh Jul 2012 #13
I was simply addressing the question in the title of the OP. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #16
sorry, my bad. samsingh Jul 2012 #17
No biggee. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #18
i'm still getting many statements from the pro-gun crowd that there is no fact samsingh Jul 2012 #21
Notice the very few responses from pro-gun people when an actual survey or fact samsingh Jul 2012 #22
Ok Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #27
there are statistics of before and after gun legislation samsingh Jul 2012 #28
and maybe reading it instead of skimming will help samsingh Jul 2012 #29
The video or the article Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #30
All we need to do is start a charity drive jeff47 Jul 2012 #23
Australia is Australia and America is America. The Australians decided, collectively, Edweird Jul 2012 #24
i'm sure it was not 100% support for gun control in Australia. samsingh Jul 2012 #25
It was a majority. Here it is the opposite. Edweird Jul 2012 #26

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. America is sliding backwards in every way while the world progresses around us.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jul 2012

They should kick us out of the United Nations.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
5. And lose their main source of funding?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

That will never happen. Plus they would lose the nightlife and partying of New York City and they don't want to lose that.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. "They should kick us out.." is what I was replying to.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jul 2012

I know that is not your post put that is what I was referring to.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
14. why do you sound so bored when we're trying to find ways to save human lives
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jul 2012

wtf - 'yawn' ?????

 

Tejas

(4,759 posts)
20. You rant about guns but won't touch the subject of violence.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jul 2012

20 out of 30 homicides are by firearm, the other 10 are by baseball bats, knives, machetes, poison, hands, feet, strangulation, shoving out of a 3rd floor window...but who cares about those 10 much less the root cause of why ANY of it happens.

No, fuck that, it's so much easier to just parrot a constant mantra of BAN TEH GUNNZ. Pathetic.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
13. but it still means that gun control is working in Australia
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jul 2012

and cannot be dismissed as is often the case in the debate in this country.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
21. i'm still getting many statements from the pro-gun crowd that there is no fact
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jul 2012

or evidence in support of gun control. This is evidence. This is fact. If pro-gun people can't accept this, then they are not interested in meaning discussion, just staking out a position with no evidence on their part.

This is the fact and evidence that gun control works in saving lives.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
22. Notice the very few responses from pro-gun people when an actual survey or fact
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jul 2012

in defense of gun control is presented.

 
27. Ok
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jul 2012

I skimmed the article and I don't see any facts presented. Just an argument that because another country reacted to tragedy by limiting their citizens' rights we should do the same.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. All we need to do is start a charity drive
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jul 2012

To fund as many CCW permits as possible. For African-Americans and Latinos.

Gun control laws would follow very quickly.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
24. Australia is Australia and America is America. The Australians decided, collectively,
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jul 2012

to do away with guns. There is *ZERO* chance of anything even remotely like that happening here. We like our guns. When you put the number of gun deaths in perspective with the deaths by other causes (driving and fast food for example) it becomes apparent that the problem isn't really THAT bad. Additionally, when you look at the number of guns per capita it's also obvious that it isn't as pervasive as some would have us believe. We live in a 'free' society with a Bill Of Rights and many of us are good with it the way it is.

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