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Here's the Joker: Mr. Homes (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 OP
Holmes joeybee12 Jul 2012 #1
Well a couple of nights in jail nichomachus Jul 2012 #2
I wonder if it's hitting him what he's done... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #7
Once the initial high wore off UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #30
I wonder why they chose the old photo? Clean cut for the White guy perhaps? BlueCaliDem Jul 2012 #3
Actually, I thought he looked kind of crazed in that photo... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #4
But a kinder crazy, don't you agree? eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2012 #41
No... the Chief wouldn't release his booking photo. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #5
the first photo they released was LibGranny Jul 2012 #25
It may have been the first one that they could find karynnj Jul 2012 #8
There was a recent one from an "adult" dating site where his hair was read obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #10
How do you read hair? gregoire Jul 2012 #28
I really don't think there's anyone interested in seeing him look wholesome. Bucky Jul 2012 #13
It is probably a good thing to dispel the myth Jamastiene Jul 2012 #27
That's just silly nichomachus Jul 2012 #24
I agree -- a lot more bloated and younger obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #6
who is the woman sitting next to him ? nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #9
Probably the public defender. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #11
that was my guess also nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #12
I'm sure he'll have big-name lawyer before long. n/t TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #15
So the family didn't want to hire an expensive lawyer flamingdem Jul 2012 #14
Now there is a woman with a tough job. Bucky Jul 2012 #16
I hope they don't give him the death penalty flamingdem Jul 2012 #18
I wouldn't say that. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #19
I think he can be tested for schizophrenia at least flamingdem Jul 2012 #22
Oh, I'm sure he'll be tested for a number of Fawke Em Jul 2012 #23
I don't envy her 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36
"So there never was a Roy?" "There never was an Aaron..." alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #17
Perfect! Fawke Em Jul 2012 #20
Here's another photo of him...from the Daily Mail joeybee12 Jul 2012 #21
Looks more like this guy to me Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #26
Here is a link to video. He looks very out of it. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #29
He looked sedated. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #31
Also, in some photos, his pupils look very dilated FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #32
Interesting. It looks like someone is drugging him gregoire Jul 2012 #33
'Evidence'? What bullshit. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #34
Are you serious? Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #35
Or he hasn't been sleeping well 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #37
Lack of sleep doesn't do that to your pupils gregoire Jul 2012 #38
I think you missed a few steps between point A and point Z eShirl Jul 2012 #39
Why does everyone call him the Joker? The Joker's hair is GREEN, DAMMIT! backscatter712 Jul 2012 #40
On Fark.com they're calling him Sideshow Bob. krispos42 Jul 2012 #42

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
2. Well a couple of nights in jail
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

and the fact that a lot of people want to see you dead has a tendency to wipe that smile off your face.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
30. Once the initial high wore off
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

the reality that he'd be looking at cement walls and steel bars, eating prison food and having people watch you take a shit like you're animal for the rest of your life might have sunk in. When he's surrounded by maniacs who will gut you for no reason at all it will really sink in.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. I wonder why they chose the old photo? Clean cut for the White guy perhaps?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jul 2012

I knew that photograph they'd been touting wasn't a recent one the moment I heard that he had dyed his hair red. The clean-cut, boy-next-door photograph corporate media were touting was more "wholesome" for the viewers.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. Actually, I thought he looked kind of crazed in that photo...
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jul 2012

Sort of had those Michelle Bachmann eyes.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
5. No... the Chief wouldn't release his booking photo.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jul 2012

The photo the press was showing was the only one they have. You can bet they'll be running with the Joker/Ronald McDonald look now that they have video.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. It may have been the first one that they could find
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jul 2012

What could be more obvious than looking for his college photo? They have said he did not have a facebook account which might have been a source of more current photos.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
10. There was a recent one from an "adult" dating site where his hair was read
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jul 2012

And, he was much leaner there, too. The face bloat is odd to me. Do any drugs do that?

 

gregoire

(192 posts)
28. How do you read hair?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jul 2012

I've never heard that expression. I've heard about reading lines on hands and reading the shape of your head.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
13. I really don't think there's anyone interested in seeing him look wholesome.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

It serves no one's interest. Not sure how you got around to seeing a race angle here.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
27. It is probably a good thing to dispel the myth
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jul 2012

the mass shooters have some seedy "different" look. I think they often aim to show that a lot of these shooters look like any other person you see in public on any given day; the everyman look. I'm not sure about wholesome or the race angle either, but I do think it is a good thing to dispel the myths about these shooters somehow having a "look" about them. They really don't look all that different than anyone else. It is what they do that makes them mass shooters anyhow, not how they look.

On the other hand, the guy's facial expressions (how he bugged his eyes out several times and how he acted) in the video are sort of strange, to me, somehow.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
24. That's just silly
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jul 2012

When you're working under pressure and under deadline as a journalist to get a photo of someone, you take whatever you can get. You don't shop around to get a photo that suits some political agenda of yours. I've been in that position. It's not an easy thing to do. Usually the family isn't quite cooperative. You may be able to get one from a friend -- and in that case, it would probably look like the one we saw. Very often, your best source is a high-school or college yearbook, which might also look like what we saw. Very rarely does the photo you first get look like what you see in the first appearance in court. Also, by the time this goes to trial, he will have a completely different look, which won't be anything close to the two photos we've seen so far.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
14. So the family didn't want to hire an expensive lawyer
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

Kind of like throwing good money after bad.. though we don't know much about who they are at this point.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
16. Now there is a woman with a tough job.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:01 PM
Jul 2012

There's really no discernible case for diminished capacity here. I mean, the guy is clearly "sick" in the colloquial sense of the word. But all that premeditation and sneaking in the back door shows this was a ration, but almost purely evil, guy. Lock him up & throw away the key is the best he can hope for.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
18. I hope they don't give him the death penalty
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jul 2012

That will be the next massive controversy.

It's better that we don't as a society sweep him out of our midst, he is an American, this society was the context for this act. We need to live with that.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
19. I wouldn't say that.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jul 2012

If he has schzophrenia or something similar, he could have been role-playing in a self-created world and has no earthly idea he's even killed someone.

I read somewhere on DU that Jared Loughner had no clue what he had done - or why - until he was given anti-psychotic drugs.

I'm not defending or accusing Holmes, but I covered courts for years as a reporter and have seen just about everything imaginable.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
23. Oh, I'm sure he'll be tested for a number of
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jul 2012

things.

I'm not sure if his appearance today was exhaustion from lack of sleep, an act or truly someone whose world is in Gotham.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
29. Here is a link to video. He looks very out of it.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/07/23/james-holmes-photos-court-arraignment-batman-dark-knight-shooter/

In light of the reports, from the prison where he was being held, that he was aggressive, spitting and delusional, could it be that they sedated him for the hearing?
 

gregoire

(192 posts)
33. Interesting. It looks like someone is drugging him
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jul 2012

Leads more to the evidence that someone else was controlling and funding him.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
34. 'Evidence'? What bullshit.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jul 2012

He looks tired. Having been in jail for 3 days, with, if rumours are true, other inmates shouting they'd kill him, being interrogated, perhaps having moments of lucidity when he realises what he's done - it's not surprising.

Take the 'someone else was controlling and funding him' to a conspiracy site. You're accusing the state of Colorado of that, by the way, if you think "someone is drugging him" in jail. It's anti-government BS.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
42. On Fark.com they're calling him Sideshow Bob.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:36 PM
Jul 2012

They don't use his real name, in order to deny him the fame and attention he seeks.


Sounds like a plan to me.

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