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Axelrod: ‘When It Comes To Secrecy, Mitt Takes The Gold!’ (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
Really? Iggy Jul 2012 #1
Do you have any links to back that up? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #2
Of Course I Don't LOL... Iggy Jul 2012 #4
It's always ProSense Jul 2012 #6
Interesting Indeed Iggy Jul 2012 #8
What ProSense Jul 2012 #9
We like to workmwith facts and truths here at DU. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #11
Who is Mitt Romney? Evergreen Emerald Jul 2012 #3
I Get It, But Iggy Jul 2012 #5
But, Romney is vying to be president.... Evergreen Emerald Jul 2012 #12
K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #7
He would "take" the Silver and Bronze too. magnifisense Jul 2012 #10
Axelrod has a way with words n/t malaise Jul 2012 #13
Hey, he's given us everything we need to know aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #14
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
1. Really?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:20 AM
Jul 2012

what about the renditions started under Smirky... still going on now.

how transparent has Obama been on this? and why does it appear Justice Dept. is
hassling whistleblowers?

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
4. Of Course I Don't LOL...
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jul 2012

bcause Obama admin is NOT releasing "secret due to security reasons" info; how convenient, eh? Weak

and of course _you_ have no proof Obama has stopped rendition.

It immediately became clear, however, that this was not going to be easy. Rendition activities are performed
by top secret intelligence agencies, so it's possible we'll never really know whether extraordinary renditions
have ceased.


Thus Obama is not transparent on this issue.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/176/end-the-use-of-extreme-rendition/

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. It's always
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jul 2012

"bcause Obama admin is NOT releasing "secret due to security reasons" info; how convenient, eh? Weak"

...fascinating when someone tries to detract from a hit against Romney by resorting to red herrings.

"and of course _you_ have no proof Obama has stopped rendition."

The ACLU does.

ENDING TORTURE = Three Torches
  • Ordered an end to the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, withdrew
    flawed legal analysis used to justify torture and applied the Army Field Manual on interrogations
    government wide.
  • Abolished the CIA secret prisons.
  • Says that “waterboarding is torture” and “contrary to America’s traditions… contrary to our ideals.”
  • No reports of extraordinary rendition to torture or other cruelty under his administration.
  • Failed to hold those responsible for past torture and other cruelty accountable; has blocked
    alleged victims of torture from having their day in court.
http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/ALWCandidateReportCard.pdf


Obama also released his tax returns, which is more relevant to the point of the OP.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
8. Interesting Indeed
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

Interesting citizens are so willing to be lead down the garden path.

•Ordered an end to the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, withdrew
flawed legal analysis used to justify torture and applied the Army Field Manual on interrogations
government wide.

•Abolished the CIA secret prisons.


Given what has been going on with the various "dark agencies" the last fifty years (COINTELPRO, TIA, etc., there is
just no way myself or any crtically thinking person can believe what the government is stating regarding what
these agencies are doing/not doing.

there's zero credbility here, and it's the government's fault.

right now agents are working in and around syria. it's of course for a "good cause", and we won't hear much
about it in MSM.. we'll get a bit more info 10-15 years from now, just like we did with the book "Charlie Wilson's
War" which detailed the largest covert war our agencies ever ran-- supporting/arming the taliban when they
were fighting Soviet army occupation of Afghanistan. read it if you have not done so already

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. What
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jul 2012
Given what has been going on with the various "dark agencies" the last fifty years (COINTELPRO, TIA, etc., there is
just no way myself or any crtically thinking person can believe what the government is stating regarding what
these agencies are doing/not doing.

there's zero credbility here, and it's the government's fault.

right now agents are working in and around syria. it's of course for a "good cause", and we won't hear much
about it in MSM.. we'll get a bit more info 10-15 years from now, just like we did with the book "Charlie Wilson's
War" which detailed the largest covert war our agencies ever ran-- supporting/arming the taliban when they
were fighting Soviet army occupation of Afghanistan. read it if you have not done so already

...the fuck are you talking about, and what the hell does it have to do with Obama's record on rendition?

In fact, what the fuck does it have to do with the OP?

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
3. Who is Mitt Romney?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jul 2012

We know nearly everything there is to know about Obama.

How can we assess Romney's fitness for President if he refuses to disclose--his tax returns, his history with Bain, his part in the Olympics, his income...etc.

You are setting up a false comparison. Imagine a Romney presidency? If he won't tell us anything about himself...what would make you think he would be forthcoming about anything else he does as president?



 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
5. I Get It, But
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jul 2012

Obama is POTUS, Rmoney is not.

I'm not succumbing to Teh Fear regarding Rmoney. that doesn't work on me

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
12. But, Romney is vying to be president....
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jul 2012

That is the whole point. I do not understand why you would not be interested in vetting the guy who wants to rule.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
14. Hey, he's given us everything we need to know
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jul 2012

which is next to nothing. Romney is engaged in the most disrespectful campaign to America society in the recent history of the Presidency. I dread to think what a Romney Presidency would be like: cabinet members who never give their real names but go under code names and testify before Congress only in darkened silhouette. He's engaged in a stealth campaign refusing to give any information and trusting to the stupidity of the citizenry and their hatred of the sitting President..

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