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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:29 AM Jan 2018

At what point does the Senate recognize that Donald Trump is dangerously unstable?

Do they have to see the mushroom cloud before they believe?

Even the Democrats debate about whether or not he should be impeached? Of course, he should be impeached! Or whatever they need to do to get him out of office.

Their attitude is similar to the airlines just before the 9/11 bombing of the WTC. We'll just continue to float along until something catastrophic happens...

They don't even have the guts to speak up about it! Their lips are sealed.

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At what point does the Senate recognize that Donald Trump is dangerously unstable? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2018 OP
The Republican congresspeople are basically a bunch of Trump Mini-me's. Girard442 Jan 2018 #1
That IS the question, isn't it. You'd think for their own self-preservation, their own suvival... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #2
Translated: kentuck Jan 2018 #3
Indeed... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #4
That is one of the main problems I have always had with republicans. They are so short-sighted. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #13
Seems to me that Mueller has a lot more financial information than they ever imagined and they OregonBlue Jan 2018 #15
Some who were speaking up have recently changed their tunes after a dinner or golf game with Trump. tanyev Jan 2018 #5
two words: blackmail, extortion hlthe2b Jan 2018 #6
Right after the 1.5 TRILLION heist I suspect. Priorities, you know! L. Coyote Jan 2018 #7
When it's 51/49 Democratic fescuerescue Jan 2018 #8
This. End of story. MANative Jan 2018 #10
They don't care what happens to him or to the American people. They got what they wanted for the 1% dalton99a Jan 2018 #9
The Republicans don't think he is oberliner Jan 2018 #11
Upton Sinclair quote-- Maeve Jan 2018 #12
When the Democrats have the majority crazycatlady Jan 2018 #14
Oh, they recognize it. They just don't give a damn. MineralMan Jan 2018 #16
they know damn well he's dangerously unstable. they knew that before he won his first primary. unblock Jan 2018 #17
Don't you get it yet? ReTrumplicans just don't fucking care. maxrandb Jan 2018 #18
My guess is that they, or some reasonable number of them PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #19
The Democrats are not doing themselves any favors RandomAccess Jan 2018 #20
I agree. kentuck Jan 2018 #21
Make that damned near always RandomAccess Jan 2018 #22

Girard442

(6,082 posts)
1. The Republican congresspeople are basically a bunch of Trump Mini-me's.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jan 2018

Whatever depraved things he might do, they're right there with him. Appealing to their better instincts is a waste of time.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
2. That IS the question, isn't it. You'd think for their own self-preservation, their own suvival...
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jan 2018

they'd act, but everything with them is SHORT-TERM consequences.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
3. Translated:
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

That would mean they are not competent or responsible enough to represent the citizens of this country, from any Party.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. That is one of the main problems I have always had with republicans. They are so short-sighted.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jan 2018

It's all about immediate gratification for them and they never consider the long-term repercussions of their actions. "As long as we make money NOW, to hell with the environment, the future of the economy, the lives of our children and grandchildren, etc." Basically, they are immature and even infantile in their need to have it all and have it now. It is just extreme selfishness and Trump is the ultimate embodiment of this.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
15. Seems to me that Mueller has a lot more financial information than they ever imagined and they
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jan 2018

are now willing to support Trump and shut down the FBI and CIA if that's what it takes to cover up their participation in this traitorous collaboration. The RNC received a lot of money from the Oligarchs and they must have spread it around. Now those cads are scared it will be discovered they took money too. Either that or Trump and the Kremlin have some juicy tape on many of them. They are not protecting him, they are covering their own collective bums.

tanyev

(42,594 posts)
5. Some who were speaking up have recently changed their tunes after a dinner or golf game with Trump.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jan 2018

Hmmm.....

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Right after the 1.5 TRILLION heist I suspect. Priorities, you know!
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

Now that they have enriched themselves, they can dump his sorry ass just like they wanted to do before the convention. But they needed his Russian buddies to win. Now we can move on to the VP the Russians picked for Trump.

Maeve

(42,287 posts)
12. Upton Sinclair quote--
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jan 2018

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

unblock

(52,285 posts)
17. they know damn well he's dangerously unstable. they knew that before he won his first primary.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jan 2018

that's not the question.

the question is at what point do republican voters (aka the foxnews audience) believe we're better off replacing him.


until then, republicans basically have no real choice but to fall in line. their party is designed that way.



when democrats control the senate, the senate will behave rather differently toward donnie, but republicans still won't.

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
18. Don't you get it yet? ReTrumplicans just don't fucking care.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

Donnie Short Fingers could use his zircon encrusted tweezers to jerk his tiny penis off on their teen daughters face, and they'd smile and ask for more.

They just don't fucking care.

Some on DU and elsewhere seem to be confused and think that we are still a functioning Democratic Republic. We're NOT.

We're prisoners of the "deplorables".

Our media have so normalized the abnormal, that I have serious doubts our way of life will survive.

They would drag this country happily through the gates of hell to keep their nefarious power. They know that they are finished. They either hang together with "Orange Shit-Sack", or they will "hang with him". There is no other option. Their only chance to survive is to destroy "us". There is no turning back from here. There is no "healing". There is no chance for reflection and thought.

They have ONE option. Either they win and crush us, or they are finished as a power in this country. They have no "back-up" plan.

The ReTrumplicans (No matter how bad it gets) will NEVER act against Donnie Shit for Brains.

We just need to make sure they don't take the rest of us down with them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
19. My guess is that they, or some reasonable number of them
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jan 2018

understand that he's unstable, but don't think dangerously so. Plus, they think they can control him.

I'm referring to the Republican Senators, of course. And since they still hold the majority, the Dems don't count.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
20. The Democrats are not doing themselves any favors
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jan 2018

I get -- but may not agree with -- the stance some of them have adopted that basically impeachment is out of the question, though maybe if Mueller finds something, but we'll have to see.

What I don't get is their refusal or inability or feigned blindness on this man as POTUS. It's not that we dislike him and are therefore inappropriately calling for impeachment. It's that he's ill and destroying the government, our worldwide reputation and standing, and anything else he can get his grubby, kleptocratic, kakistocratic, authoritarian hands on.

He commits impeachable offenses DAILY. They have NO BUSINESS dismissing the whole idea of impeachment "unless" Robert Mueller comes up with something. Ye gods, the circumstantial evidence alone on #TrumpRussia is overwhelming, but there's so much more he does that's just wrong, often illegal and/or unConstutitional, and should be addressed by them daily.

To be clear: I'm okay (sorta) if most of them don't want to start calling for impeachment, or hawking it, or running on it. I am NOT okay with their total dismissal of the idea when asked, depending on Mueller.

And if Democrats don't plan to run AGAINST TRUMP and his destructive agenda in 2018, at least in part, they will be seen as part of the problem.

As as for their slogan, "A better deal," they better think twice about that too. People don't want a DEAL, they want effective and dare I say muscular? representation in Congress.



 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
22. Make that damned near always
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jan 2018

I think the problem is that they think they tend to think POLITICALLY (and come up with gimmicks) when in reality they need to get out of their bubble and go talk to people, maybe find out what people want.

If they did that, they'd find out people want what Democrats have always delivered: all the stuff we have and are about to lose (or already have lost). Things like the 40 hour work week, clean water and air, higher minimum wages, social security and medicare and medicaid, consumer protection, on and on and on. They'd find people want protection from this insane monster in the White House.

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