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no_hypocrisy

(46,151 posts)
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:27 AM Jan 2018

If Mitt Romney runs and wins the Utah senatorial seat,

do you believe he will attempt to challenge the soul of the republican party? To take it away from Trumpism? Does he have enough influence to change the priorities or the policies of republicans?

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If Mitt Romney runs and wins the Utah senatorial seat, (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 OP
No jimlup Jan 2018 #1
Mr. 47 Percent? 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #2
You can be conservative and hate Trump. brooklynite Jan 2018 #5
But they all vote for his initiatives and fold like cheap suits. dem4decades Jan 2018 #16
They all feed from the same trough. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #39
You can be conservative and love Trump, as well. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #42
No. GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #3
No PJMcK Jan 2018 #4
He will try Kablooie Jan 2018 #6
Trumpford wife. This is exactly what happens to them - they try then they succumb. FM123 Jan 2018 #22
No. Respectfully, of course not. The "soul" of the Hortensis Jan 2018 #7
I think Vlad Putin is holding the GOPee soul in escrow........ lastlib Jan 2018 #21
:) Vlad's just using/amplifying waves born here. Hortensis Jan 2018 #25
+++++ Also....I thought we're supposed to scream at Mitt Romney to go away because.. JHan Jan 2018 #33
What does this tell you about Mitt's leadership strength? Ilsa Jan 2018 #8
Trump makes an excellent Satan. That photo is proof. VOX Jan 2018 #10
You must be reading my mind! Ohiya Jan 2018 #12
This is just the public, published photo... Raster Jan 2018 #17
Mitt uses Super Glue for Chapstick just prior to puckering up. VOX Jan 2018 #44
Mitt is still a Republican. Trust none of them to do the right thing. VOX Jan 2018 #9
100%. These are not normal times and not normal Republicans. Hortensis Jan 2018 #18
Precisely. Dwight Eisenhower was the last decent (R) president. VOX Jan 2018 #43
He did call out Russia as America's #1 threat Joe941 Jan 2018 #11
Wouldn't hold my breath. At the end of the day, he's a republican Va Lefty Jan 2018 #13
Every day, someone ask him.... safeinOhio Jan 2018 #14
It is hard to use the words soul, Romney, Republican in one post. gordianot Jan 2018 #15
He won't become the new GOP leader, but he may escalate the GOP civil war. tanyev Jan 2018 #19
NO get the red out Jan 2018 #20
No, but he cant be worse than Hatch. Orangepeel Jan 2018 #23
naw, romney went crawling to trump for a job spanone Jan 2018 #24
He will fall in line just like all of his fellow Republicans. LonePirate Jan 2018 #26
Hey it a minute...I thought after running for president and losing all american girl Jan 2018 #27
R-Money has a soul? crazycatlady Jan 2018 #28
If Mitt Romney runs and loses the Utah senatorial seat, it will be glorious. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #29
Outsider? He's their golden boy, shanny Jan 2018 #30
He's that liberal governor from Mass. who hates Bush and Trump. A Bundy could beat him in UT. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #31
They know him better than that. shanny Jan 2018 #32
Nope, he will kiss Orange Julius' ring. muntrv Jan 2018 #34
No. He'll use the seat to deregulate and make more money CanonRay Jan 2018 #35
He's been remarkably silent since his early agitation against Trump. Orsino Jan 2018 #36
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #41
That's not how Senators bring home the bacon. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #37
NO. Romney will vote as a Republican. dalton99a Jan 2018 #38
Romney will not be any kind of savior for the GOP Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #40
What "soul"? He'll be next prez. UTUSN Jan 2018 #45
Will releasing tax returns be a thing? I see Mitt weaseling on that... JHB Jan 2018 #46
He'll run, he'll win, he'll have his finger constantly in the breeze DavidDvorkin Jan 2018 #47
Probably not. Tiggeroshii Jan 2018 #48
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. You can be conservative and love Trump, as well.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:22 PM
Jan 2018

You can be conservative and love Trump, as well. One side seems more weighted, though...

PJMcK

(22,040 posts)
4. No
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jan 2018

First, he has to win the nomination then the election.

Second, as a Senator, he'd be one of a hundred. Are there any individual Senators, on either side, that have the leadership power to challenge the White House?

Third, Mitt? Are you kidding? This is how Trump has bastardized our nation! He's normalized his weirdness so that we, on the left, can think that Romney represents moderation.

Damn, these are strange and dangerous times.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. No. Respectfully, of course not. The "soul" of the
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:42 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Republican Party has been taken over by ultraconservative plutocrats. Romney's not only one of them btw, (Romney subtype), he's far from the only religious extremist among them.

It is looking like Trump's backers are moving against a Romney candidacy in the primary, no doubt preferring a less supposedly "god-directed" ultraconservative. But in these dangerously destabilized times, all religious extremists in government are potentially very dangerous. The media don't warn of the Christian reconstructionist/dominionist movements growing in the shadows of the takeover of the Republican Party, but they really should.

As for Romney himself, those prone to zealotry, whether in pursuit of money and power for a new, more worthy ruling class or in god's service, don't look at things like most people do. They really don't, and their notions of high moral purpose should not be mistaken for what that means to others. Their righteousness also typically leads to very ruthless behaviors in pursuing their ends.

lastlib

(23,266 posts)
21. I think Vlad Putin is holding the GOPee soul in escrow........
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

If Mr. 47% is going to be a senator, he will have to do likewise.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) Vlad's just using/amplifying waves born here.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:47 AM
Jan 2018

Remember, wealth quadrupled over the past 40 years, and none of it went in our pockets. Its concentration in the pockets of a few newly fabulously wealthy Americans is a huge "wave" that threatens to wipe away democracy as we know it.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
33. +++++ Also....I thought we're supposed to scream at Mitt Romney to go away because..
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jan 2018

he lost and Obama got re-elected. Just going by the principle of the thing.

This is what I was led to believe in 2017.....I mean that's how we're supposed to treat losing presidential candidates right?


Ilsa

(61,696 posts)
8. What does this tell you about Mitt's leadership strength?
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:42 AM
Jan 2018


MITT ROMNEY EATS CROW AT THREE-STAR DINNER WITH DONALD TRUMP

The former Trump antagonist swallows his pride.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
17. This is just the public, published photo...
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:12 AM
Jan 2018

...I'm sure there's another photo where almost-Senator Mittens purposely plants his Rethuglican lips on Beezelbub's buttocks.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
44. Mitt uses Super Glue for Chapstick just prior to puckering up.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:56 PM
Jan 2018

Only a gallon of nail-polish remover will separate Mitt's enthusiastic lips from the Dotard's derriere.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
9. Mitt is still a Republican. Trust none of them to do the right thing.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jan 2018

I don't like thinking this way, and I get even angrier at the chaos and worry that Trump and the Republicans have dumped onto the dissenting 65%-70% majority of Americans.

Remember Bob Corker's "heroic" anti-Trump stance? That melted faster than Greenland ice. Remember Lindsay Graham's protesting of Trump's attitude? That went with the wind as well.

Mitt was a jerk as a candidate for president. I can't envision any complete personality change in him.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
43. Precisely. Dwight Eisenhower was the last decent (R) president.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jan 2018

And even at that, Nixon was his veep. Today's Republicans? Radical right-wing extremists, gambling and experimenting with peoples LIVES, and grabbing more ill-gotten personal wealth as it floats upstream.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
15. It is hard to use the words soul, Romney, Republican in one post.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:02 AM
Jan 2018

An unfettered Romney in Utah does not even have to pretend to be progressive as he was in Massachusetts. Romney is for sale.

tanyev

(42,594 posts)
19. He won't become the new GOP leader, but he may escalate the GOP civil war.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

So go on with your bad self, Mittens!

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
27. Hey it a minute...I thought after running for president and losing
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jan 2018

the only option was to STFU and knit...why do men get to do things and women can't...

Hillary was sounding the alarm bells, and told to sit in the corner, Romney, on the other hand, went and demeaned himself at the alter of Trump...do I think he will stand up to he, Oh hell no. He will act like every other republican and be complicit to this treasonous orange shitgobblin.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. If Mitt Romney runs and loses the Utah senatorial seat, it will be glorious.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jan 2018

I think Rep. Bishop wants that seat. Outsider Romney might get his ass kicked in a primary.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
30. Outsider? He's their golden boy,
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jan 2018

their rider in a white horse. He beat Obama by almost a 50 point margin.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
32. They know him better than that.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

He has a long- term residence in Park City. He "saved" the Olympics in 2002. And they are not Trump fans in UT; Trump's opposition to Mittens will provide even more of a boost. He 'll win in a walk.

Also too, last time I checked, the Bundys are from Nevada.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
36. He's been remarkably silent since his early agitation against Trump.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jan 2018

And let's not forget his romantic dinner with the president-elect. He's not going to run for the Senate on an anti-Trump platform.

The Revolution will not be Romneyized.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,426 posts)
40. Romney will not be any kind of savior for the GOP
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jan 2018

He may be a bland, possibly slightly moderate Republican Senator, but I wouldn't expect any serious effort to challenge Trump(ism). I could be wrong but it's probably best to set our expectations way low on that.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
46. Will releasing tax returns be a thing? I see Mitt weaseling on that...
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:20 PM
Jan 2018

...so no, he won't "challenge the soul" of the Republicans, he'll try to do what they've done before, which amounts to letting the "respectable" plutocrats be the "hold their nose" vote for the foamers and do pretty much what Trump has done minus the crazy tweets.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
48. Probably not.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 12:10 AM
Jan 2018

But then again i never expected Arlen Specter to switch parties, so i guess anything is possible.

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