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Stinky The Clown

(67,807 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:41 AM Jul 2012

Was Sandusky such an integral part of Penn State as to be worth these sanctions?

Why did they cover up for him? Would they have been worse off if they did the right thing when his pedophilia was first known?

I can't imagine that was true. I should think that going after him when this first came to light would have helped, not hurt the team, even back then.

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Was Sandusky such an integral part of Penn State as to be worth these sanctions? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2012 OP
hindisght is 50-50 d_r Jul 2012 #1
right, so... PCIntern Jul 2012 #2
It's the perception. atreides1 Jul 2012 #3
I see what you are saying and have often wondered that myself cindyperry2010 Jul 2012 #4
Nixon would have served out his 2nd term if he didn't work to cover up Watergate. Kaleva Jul 2012 #14
You're right. Iggo Jul 2012 #5
This is my 2 cents... LynneSin Jul 2012 #6
Here's the timeline..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #10
I wonder how much of Paterno's catholic background played into this LynneSin Jul 2012 #12
Yep. And then when Sandusky did it again they were trapped by their complicity n2doc Jul 2012 #15
If they'd done the right thing at the beginning, I don't think the Sandusky incident would be smokey nj Jul 2012 #7
this... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2012 #9
I completely agree. Stinky The Clown Jul 2012 #13
Colleges always cover up Sex Crimes. slampoet Jul 2012 #8
There's alot of money at stake. Kaleva Jul 2012 #16
So, I guess it's too much to expect the football crowd to police their own ranks. radicalliberal Sep 2012 #21
My gut feeling is that there's more to this story, like the church who protected perps and their mother earth Jul 2012 #11
They were trying to protect the place, it just really didn't work that well for them. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #18
Seems the investigation has broadened and there may actually be more to this story. mother earth Aug 2012 #20
It wasn't just because of Sandusky that Penn State got punished. Chisox08 Jul 2012 #17
He apparently was important enough that a whole chain of people in authority were willing to protect Skidmore Jul 2012 #19

d_r

(6,907 posts)
1. hindisght is 50-50
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jul 2012

the ethical thing wouldn't have been to put the program first and protected kids, period.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. It's the perception.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jul 2012

It's called "circle the wagons", someone felt that the football program would be hurt, and it might well have been, but not as bad as what happened to it this morning.


The Freeh investigation only touched on the involvement of Penn State...who's going to investigate why the former AG of Pennsylvania, now its governor failed to move forward with the prosecution of Sandusky...Corbett played his part in this for his own personal gain...and now he reaps the rewards after failing to protect other children who came into contact with Sandusky!

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
4. I see what you are saying and have often wondered that myself
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jul 2012

why cover for this p o s and why not do the right thing to begin with. i think part of it was the prescious program and we cannot have this kind of scandal. which makes no sense because look at it now. my one big question is where is ray gricar and did somebody murder him

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
6. This is my 2 cents...
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

I think Joe Paterno, after hearing about what happened in the lockerroom showers with Sandusky and that kid, he had a long sit-down talk with Sandusky. Sandusky probably confessed his sins in someway to Paterno but promised that he would never do it again. And somewhere in Paterno's heart he felt his friend deserved a 2nd chance and that Sandusky would clean up his act and be a decent person.

I think Paterno truly felt that a 'good talking' was all it would take to 'cure' Sandusky of pedophilia.

Shame!

a kennedy

(29,669 posts)
10. Here's the timeline.....
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jul 2012
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/22/timeline-of-allegations-in-sandusky-case/

notice the June 1st 1998 entry...."Sandusky is interviewed and admits showering naked with the boy, saying it was wrong and promising not to do it again....... and you're right LynneSin, coach thought that this "good talking to" would be the end of it.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. I wonder how much of Paterno's catholic background played into this
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jul 2012

I mean personally, I think Penn State is being punished way worse for this as compared to the Catholic Church; although, the Catholic Church was way worse of a crime.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
15. Yep. And then when Sandusky did it again they were trapped by their complicity
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

Joe knew that if it came out in 2001 that he had let Sandusky stay around PSU in spite of what he knew that he would lose his job. So he continued to cover it up. It was all about getting the wins record and keeping his power/reputation intact. He was just hoping that they could keep it under wraps forever.

I just wish he hadn't of died so soon. I would have loved to have seen his reaction when his wins were stripped away and he was put on trial.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
7. If they'd done the right thing at the beginning, I don't think the Sandusky incident would be
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

anything more than a footnote in the history of Penn State football.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
11. My gut feeling is that there's more to this story, like the church who protected perps and their
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jul 2012

crimes, I don't think we know the full story.

I have nothing more to base that feeling on, but why wouldn't they have acted even if only to protect the University, as self-interested as these institutions become?

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
20. Seems the investigation has broadened and there may actually be more to this story.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:25 PM
Aug 2012

Stay tuned...I understand they were trying to protect the university, but why not let him go for some other reason if they were so
concerned about the university and didn't want the scandal? I think there was more to this scandal than one perpetrator. Why put the entire university at risk, this was enablement above and beyond IMO. Apparently there's more to investigate.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
19. He apparently was important enough that a whole chain of people in authority were willing to protect
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

him for years to the detriment of many young men. Personally I think that the sanctions against Penn State should be harsh and it should be a wake up call to every conference college out there to clean house for any corruption they have been harboring.

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