Every Batman movie since Burton's had a higher body count than the real body count in Aurora

[Recursion]

I'm not saying that's a cause, I'm saying it's a troubling symptom.

[Robb]

1. Symptom of what, exactly?

[Johnny Rico]

2. And what was the body count in Star Wars when Luke blew up the Death Star?

Millions, at least.

So what? This is fantasy violence we're speaking of. Not especially troubling.

[Recursion]

3. Why isn't it troubling to you?

It is to me.

[qazplm]

8. why?

First of all, the body counts in Batman are from bad people, we are told it's bad to kill through Batman because Batman never kills and won't use guns.

Second of all, it's a movie. Should we not show war movies because it involves people killing other people?

[Johnny Rico]

22. As they say in Mystery Science Theater 3000,

"Repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax"

[ananda]

6. Regarding violence.

If media saturation inures us to it, then what?
We just watch it and numb out.

But if we are sensitive to it and it bothers us,
then what?

Me: I avoid it.

James Holmes -- sink deeper and deeper into
psychotic fantasy that become real.

[Ter]

12. Luke was Tiimothy McVeigh

Total terrorist.

[CBGLuthier]

26. Worst Analogy Ever

Yes I was quite damned nervous living here in Oklahoma City what with the fucking DEATH STAR parked downtown. I guess there were CHILDREN on the SW Death Star too.


Worst Ever!!

[Ter]

39. It's the best, not worst

Yes there were likely plenty of children and soldiers' wives living on that station (basically a flying military base). He also attacked his own government. He's not a terrorist?

[AngryOldDem]

4. Just means that each movie has to up the ante in terms of its action quotient.

Otherwise, the franchise won't hold anyone's interest.

[Recursion]

5. Yes, it "just" means that

It "just" means Americans are regularly happy to pay nearly $20 to see more fake deaths than the actual deaths last week. It "just" means that.

[loli phabay]

10. i think you will find that more than americans will pay to see the movie

Great point someone made about star wars didnt they destroy alderaan.

[samsingh]

7. what does that have to do with anything?

[HappyMe]

9. Real life victims and murdered vs.

fake dead?
That, to me, kind of disrespects the real horror of what happened.

[snooper2]

11. Until about five minutes ago, I’d never heard of the website Movie Body Counts.

LOL

It’s sole reason for existing, it seems, is to keep a running tally of the body counts in Hollywood films. It has no particular agenda, nor does it appear to cover anything else. It just tallies up body counts. I have no idea why such a site needs to exist, but I’m not really averse to it. Just kind of perplexed. Maybe it’s a handy reference tool for homicidal psychopaths trying to quell their thirst through Netflix.

http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/movies-with-the-highest-body-count.php



http://www.moviebodycounts.com/Top-Movies.htm

And the #1 IS....................









Lord of the Rings, Return of the King

Body Count Entire Film: 836

Hobbits: 2
Humans: 147
Uruk-hai and Orcs: 524
Trolls: 2
Rohirim: 123
Sauthrons: 32
Nazguls: 6
Misc: Animals: 166 (not included in tally)



Titanic ranked #8 with 307 deaths

[Ter]

14. Why isn't Star Wars: A New Hope in there?

An entire planet was blown up, that may be in the billions.

[Recursion]

19. I think it has to be a person you see on screen

They don't have to *die* on screen, but they have to either appear dead on screen or appear alive on screen and then be killed offscreen.

[xmas74]

28. That wins

though Private Ryan should be high on the list too. It was Normandy!

[Nye Bevan]

15. I don't get this. On Star Wars the whole planet of Alderaan was destroyed,

so the body count would be in the millions. So why isn't that on the list?

[snooper2]

21. You COULD always check out the website--

Or I will for you


Simple Guideline...

- Can you see a dead body plainly? count it
- Can you see a mortal hit? count it
- Did someone die on screen? count it
- Was a scene shown and then at the last second "cut away?" count it
- Use an offically released director's, extended, or unrated cut of a film over theatrical releases. No bootleg/leaked versions please.
- Only count wide and limited released films (US, Worldwide, or native country). No TV movies, shows, or straight to DVD/video!!!

- Anything else is extra and/or misc. (planes, ships, houses, planets...) and is really only for fun but not necessary.


http://moviebodycounts.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=6

[Nye Bevan]

24. Hmmmm. I don't remember plainly seeing 300+ dead bodies on Titanic

but I guess it was a long time ago.

Anyway, sorry for being too lazy to look it up.

[RockaFowler]

38. At the end they show all of the people who died

It has to be more than 300 standing in the Grand Staircase when Rose arrives

[Recursion]

17. Which two hobbits die in the Return of the King?

Also, it's pretty safe to be that if there's data that can be tabulated, there's a website dedicated to tabulating it. Hell, I run a website that tabulates pitch counts in minor league baseball games.

And I'm pretty sure all 8 remaining Nazguls die.

[Withywindle]

33. There was just a debate in the lounge about whether Gollum was a hobbit.

I'm on the 'of course he was' side. So that's one.

The only one, IIRC.

Yes, all the Nazgul die (to the extent that they were alive in the first place), along with Sauron.

[Recursion]

42. Oh, right Deagol

You see Smeagol strangle him in the extended cut.

(And Gandalf says they're hobbits, so that settles it for me.)

[loli phabay]

23. without even counting i would have thought the movie zulu had more

I could e wrong or any of the sword and sandal films.

[Edweird]

13. Humans are inherently violent.

[onehandle]

16. After the film 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' I had the urge to destroy the Earth.

I have a right to bear arms. Gimme My Supernova Bomb!

[Recursion]

18. See, that's not what I'm saying, and I pointed out in the post that I wasn't saying it (nt)

[hfojvt]

27. after about half an hour of the POE

I had an urge to destroy the DVD. Unfortunately I didn't file the right form, so I could not get authorization.

I did notice, that like "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban", that the movie was made to be more violent than the book. In other movie to book conversion in the past, like "That was then, this is now" and others, that the movies added more sex to the story.

But that was then, when sex sold, and this is now, when violence does.

[Zorra]

20. Celluloid heroes never feel any pain.

I wish my life was a non-stop Hollywood movie show,
A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes,
Because celluloid heroes never feel any pain
And celluloid heroes never really die.

Oh celluloid heroes never feel any pain
Oh celluloid heroes never really die.

I wish my life was a non-stop Hollywood movie show,
A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes,
Because celluloid heroes never feel any pain
And celluloid heroes never really die.

&feature=related

[Comrade_McKenzie]

25. Our art reflects our society. Change society to change art. nt

[AngryOldDem]

29. Exactly.

I've read through this thread and I'm still not sure what point is trying to be made. Seems to me that what it's complaining about is the very mindset that had people in the theater last Friday.

I don't go for these types of movies, but as long as they're turning a profit for the studios they'll continue to be made. When society sends the message that enough is enough, things will change.

It's a hard fact of life, but everything to some degree is affected by the bottom line. Flame away, folks, but facts are facts.

[Iggy]

30. Let's Not Go There

I don't buy movies/video games are inspiring this violence. that's too convenient.

however, I do think the movie industry needs to rethink their "need" for big, hyped midnight
movie premiers... which provide a venue for real "Jokers" to carry out their wacked perfomances

[uppityperson]

31. Violence is accepted, sex is not. "Think of the children"

I agree, have never understood why violence is ok but sex or even nudity isn't.

[white_wolf]

32. What's the point?

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks media causes these kinds of things is looking for an easy answer. There are problems in our society that go much deeper than violence in art. We should address those problems, not waste our time with moral panics. Let's discuss having better access to mental healthcare for one. That would probably do a lot more than complaining about violence in movies.

[Alduin]

34. What's your point?

[Withywindle]

35. It's called FICTION.

Yes, there are lots of movies where lots of actors pretend to die. Your point is?

My point is that it's really, really indescribably messed up to compare fictional deaths of fictional characters to real people, who died violently for real, and did NOT get up, wash the makeup off, and go on to the next role.

[Starry Messenger]

36. Who died during the making of a Batman movie?

[Avalux]

37. Most people understand the difference between make believe and real life.

Some do not, and those are the ones who will act out no matter what Hollywood, the music industry and writers produce. Just like I never believed all the nonsense that music makes people commit crimes, I don't believe your theory holds water.

[Recursion]

40. What theory? The one where I said it's not a cause?

Amazing how knee-jerk this got. It's not a cause, it's a symptom.

[Capt. Obvious]

41. Just think, if they had kept Adam West as Batman for this film

the poor victims would have been taken out by POW, BAM, WIF, ZAP, BOOM

[Marrah_G]

43. There was no actual body count in the movies

Those people all got back up and walked away.