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riversedge

(70,310 posts)
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:53 AM Jan 2018

Nancy Pelosi Democrats are committed to giving America #ABetterDeal in the year ahead. HappyNY


Nancy Pelosi
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Democrats are committed to giving America #ABetterDeal in the year ahead. Wishing you all a wonderful #NewYearsEve2018!



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Nancy Pelosi Democrats are committed to giving America #ABetterDeal in the year ahead. HappyNY (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2018 OP
We need to hire Frank Luntz superpatriotman Jan 2018 #1
Start with the hashtag #TrumpCorruption on everything you tweet. riversedge Jan 2018 #2
Gee, what a slogan. Slightly better? Marginally better? Demit Jan 2018 #3
I hope a better deal would represent FDR loyalsister Jan 2018 #17
If that slogan is supposed to call back to FDR, it does not. Demit Jan 2018 #19
The ship has sailed loyalsister Jan 2018 #23
LOLOL!! pangaia Jan 2018 #26
What's wrong with the slogan? mcar Jan 2018 #4
What's wrong with it? superpatriotman Jan 2018 #5
Here' a far better slogan: superpatriotman Jan 2018 #6
Yeah, because it works so great for pizza leftstreet Jan 2018 #9
Ha ha! G_j Jan 2018 #10
Nattering nabobs of negativism. George II Jan 2018 #18
Exactly mcar Jan 2018 #21
If it comes from the Democrats, it must by definition be good Crunchy Frog Jan 2018 #24
If people don't like it they could use what they think is better JI7 Jan 2018 #25
It is one of the dumbest 'slooogans" I have ever seen/heard. pangaia Jan 2018 #27
worst slogan G_j Jan 2018 #7
Maybe Democrats should be winning the war ... GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #8
i guess all the marketing folks are Republicans 0rganism Jan 2018 #11
Worst slogan ever. Vinca Jan 2018 #12
Those who want a change, with younger Democrats, Hortensis Jan 2018 #13
Maxine's voice will only get stronger. Bring it on. oasis Jan 2018 #20
Lol. I'm looking forward to hearing her "on" him. Hortensis Jan 2018 #22
help is on the way musette_sf Jan 2018 #14
What we need is a video Qutzupalotl Jan 2018 #15
I'm going to work to flip my district. Initech Jan 2018 #16
Actions speak louder than slogans thbobby Jan 2018 #28
Slogan sounds like it's for a used car dealer CozyMystery Jan 2018 #29
THE ONION, right?? pangaia Jan 2018 #30
Wow. Still weak ass messaging. That's not encouraging. elehhhhna Jan 2018 #31

riversedge

(70,310 posts)
2. Start with the hashtag #TrumpCorruption on everything you tweet.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jan 2018


#TheResistance #TrumpRussia #TrumpMoneyLaundering #TrumpCorruption #ImpeachTrump

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
17. I hope a better deal would represent FDR
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018

The American dream is BS. The existing economic inequality is not going away. Dems need to work on making the economic disadvantages tolerable and livable. FDR's new deal included basic incomes that allowed people to secure housing and basic necessities. Democrats expanded on it with promoting food security and health care.

As poor people are suffering, many middle class people fear getting poorer.

Real "welfare" reform would mean restoration and expansion.

Expansion of SS benefits to ensure that people who are feeling the effects of physically demanding labor be able to retire early rather than be forced into SSDI where work and income penalties prevent opportunities to earn some extra money.

It's not only jobs that have been shipped overseas. It is professions. As in employment people thought they would provide an income to support a family, send their kids to college, retire. Factory workers keep losing professions.

Along with miners who are losing their jobs, those professional workers should have access to at least a minimum income without the stringent regulations of unemployment.

Rather than tax credits, Dems should look towards providing an actual steady income that makes poverty more tolerable.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
19. If that slogan is supposed to call back to FDR, it does not.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

To me, it references the country as it is now, under Republicans. It implies that things won't improve a whole lot under Democrats, but they'll get a little better. Yaaaay, I guess.

I mean, the contrast couldn't be starker. Trump constantly hammering home the concept of GREAT, with all its sweeping connotations & call to glory, and we settle on the meek concept of 'better'.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
23. The ship has sailed
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jan 2018

Things are not going to get measurably better in terms of American dream thinking any time soon.
People are starving. Are Dems going to promise fine dining? Should they promise houses with swimming pools? Expensive cars?

Or maybe a "better deal" could mean safety and security for all. Housing, food, healthcare and a minimum basic income that provides for necessities might feel like a luxury to homeless folks. Or people who fear an economic demise and strategize their food consumption carefully.

FDR did not promise luxury. But the Democratic move right incluuded individualism and the incessant American dream lie. Trump's lie about making America great includes the assumption that the playing field is level. Racism is built into that assumption.

We really need to admit that inclusive greatness is not possible when so many people are suffering. Trump lied. Some Democrats got on board and lied. We need to admit it, and offer some basic economic security for more of our citizens.

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
5. What's wrong with it?
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:39 AM
Jan 2018

I would ask what is right with it?

It implies so much weakness and negativity it is embarrassing.

Democrats don't need to provide a 'Deal', we aren't selling cars and this isn't the 1930's.

It assumes there is a plan already in place - there is not.

The word 'Better' is noncommittal.

It assumes the world that President Obama left .45 was so bad that it needed reworking into its current state.

Should I continue?

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
24. If it comes from the Democrats, it must by definition be good
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jan 2018

and worthy of being praised. That's how it works, right?

JI7

(89,276 posts)
25. If people don't like it they could use what they think is better
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jan 2018

Its not even worth debating over but that's what some prefer than just showing support.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. It is one of the dumbest 'slooogans" I have ever seen/heard.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jan 2018

With sloooooow being the operative sylllaaaable

0rganism

(23,971 posts)
11. i guess all the marketing folks are Republicans
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jan 2018

how else do we end up with shit slogans like "a better deal"? really? if this is the best we can do, we've got lots of losing left in front of us.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Those who want a change, with younger Democrats,
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jan 2018

might take more from the Republicans than their professional brainwashers.

May I offer to you: A 28-year-old Latino, Omar Navarro, who plans to rid us of 78-year-old Maxine. He has big money behind him this time.

LA Times: Omar Navarro is trying again to unseat Rep. Maxine Waters, but this time, he has a new set of high-profile friends. Trump confidant Roger Stone is a campaign advisor, former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio calls weekly, and far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones hosted him on his popular show.

Now a group of major GOP donors that spent millions on ads to elect President Trump also plans to take on the Los Angeles congresswoman in next year's midterm election.

"I had faith after Trump won that ... we could topple someone like Maxine and win," said the 28-year-old former car salesman who grew up in the district. ...

Controversial former Sheriff Arpaio, who was convicted of a crime related to alleged racial profiling of Latinos and pardoned by Trump, hosted a $125-a-ticket fundraiser for Navarro at Trump National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes last month. The event ended with a skit in which a Waters impersonator who was wearing a wig pretended to attack conservative musician Joy Villa. Navarro intervened and pulled off the Waters wig as the dozen or so attendees applauded.



The skit appears to reference an episode from last spring, when now-ousted Fox News host Bill O'Reilly said he was too distracted by Waters' "James Brown wig" hair to hear the congresswoman's speech on the House floor about patriotism under Trump. Waters response to O'Reilly, "I'm a strong black woman, and I cannot be intimidated," went viral.

http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-waters-gop-challenger-20171027-story.html





Not by these clowns.




Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Lol. I'm looking forward to hearing her "on" him.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jan 2018

While I was looking for a comment, I found this instead:

Omar Navarro, a fringe GOP activist in the South Bay making his second bid to unseat entrenched Rep. Maxine Waters, is on probation until March for a criminal conviction stemming from his use of an electronic tracking device he attached to his wife’s car, the Daily Breeze has learned.

Here's a Daily Beast article on Navarro's "utterly strange, motley crew," tho.

Navarro has become a cause celebre for some of the biggest political names in the Trump orbit—a motley nexus of political celebrities, renowned conspiracy theorists, and anti-immigrant zealots. His backers include former presidential candidate Herman Cain, previous Trump adviser and friend Roger Stone, and former member of the Pussycat Dolls Kaya Jones. He has gotten exposure and support from InfoWars, for which he once reported. And most recently, he has fundraised with disgraced-turned-pardoned Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Why all these figures have flocked to Navarro is not entirely clear. A 28-year-old resident of Torrance, California, Navarro hasn’t held elected office before. But not for lack of trying. He ran against Waters in 2016, only to lose by more than 50 points—a blistering defeat that he spun into a positive, proclaiming that he had won “an outstanding 25%!” of the vote in a predominantly Democratic district.

What seems to be his biggest draw is that he is, simply, there… in L.A… running against Waters, the bete noire of the Trumpites, who has called repeatedly for the president’s impeachment and openly questioned his sanity.

“You’ve got the old, horrible, senile, entrenched, crazy lady, vs. a real American,” as InfoWar’s Alex Jones put it during an interview segment with Navarro in May. “Throw her ass out!”


Lol. She's going to hand this one his ass. But that she's become a nationwide target of enmity suggests some real effort will be made to satisfy the lusts of the red in tooth and claw.

Qutzupalotl

(14,333 posts)
15. What we need is a video
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jan 2018

in which our most respected liberal voices are all fed a canned line to repeat. Remember how well that worked?

Enough with the slogans. Run candidates in EVERY race, on local issues. Take back the House and Senate, then impeach.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
16. I'm going to work to flip my district.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jan 2018

The Fox News cult has an iron grip on it, and it's way past time they were taken down a few pegs.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
28. Actions speak louder than slogans
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 05:36 PM
Jan 2018

My own slogan is Fucktrump. Means nothing unless I help do something. I do not care much about slogans or marketing. I care about results. And I trust and admire Nancy Pelosi. We need more like her. We especially need more Women in Congress, Senate, and The White House.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. THE ONION, right??
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jan 2018

I prefer something more prosaic like.... oh... i dunno
......................



how about......


NAIL THE FUCKERS TO THE WALL!!



Nancy!! I am glad for all you do but..... Jeeze !!

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