"I'm MAD AS HELL, and I'm not going to take it anymore!" Huma Abedin.

[BeHereNow]

Okay, I have read everything I could find on this stochastic terrorist case.

Michelle Bachmann should be arrested for inciting a death threat on this woman. Period.

It is UNforgivable that Congressional intervention/ Censure has not occurred yet.
Sarah Palin should also be held accountable for incitement of violence that resulted
in the shooting of Gabby Giffords.

At what point, do WE the people, demand these people be removed from all public
offices and airwaves?


The latest stories about the death threats unleashed on Ms Abedin, after Bachmann's
rant have made me LIVID.

She must be held accountable.

The Congress censured Rangel for FAR less- and Bachmann is allowed to keep her seat?
No, NO, HELL NO.

People like Bachmann, Palin, Beck and Limbaugh need to be silenced to once and for all-
Through legal prosectutions.

WHERE the fuck is the Congress on upholding the law?
Vote them out, each and every thug.

Inciting violence is NOT FREE SPEECH, it is a CRIME.

Censure and indict- NOW.
The network media is also to be held accountable as accessories to criminal behavior
that has resulted in not only an attempted murder, but now the threat of murder
as the result of a bat shit crazy woman's unfounded allegation against Huma Abedin.
WHERE the FUCK are our leaders who need to stop this shit IMMEDIATELY!
How many more innocent people will die, how many more tax dollars will be spent needlessly
on protecting government servants because some mentally ill witch has a voice on the
PUBLIC airwaves?
Where does the buck stop?

Aren't you sick and tired of this?

BHN

[BeHereNow]

1. Let us break it down, for those who fail to recognize the ATROCIOUS activity and LACK of action

1. Bachmann, a member of Congress, randomly and with out any proof for her
allegations, announces Huma Abedin is tied to the Muslim
Brotherhood.

2. Due to her unfounded allegation, one of the nut cases who listen to her issues a death threat to Huma Abedin.

3. NO one in our fucking government does shit about it, except provide 24 hour security for Huma Abedin.

4. That security is now called for because... the rantings of a member of CONGRESS?

5. IMPEACH now, make any sense to anyone?

Palin and her cross-hairs potentially incited the attempted murder of Gabby Giffords-
one has only to connect the dots.

And NOW Bachmann incites murderous hatred, through unfounded accusations, towards Huma Abedin,
which result in a death threat and the need for 24 hour protection?

What I want you to think about, is this act was instigated by a US member of Congress

Her colleagues have taken no action against her, even though it is SO apparent to
the rest of us how INAPPROPRIATE her allegations and incitations are.

So, the situation broken down for a child's comprehension- what does this tell us
about just HOW broken out government is?

More importantly, what are WE going to do about it.
I demand her impeachment. Immediately.

BHN

[Hubert Flottz]

15. Frau Bachmann sees an enemy of the state and the Lord...

behind every bush and under every rock. Her constituents should be ashamed of voting for a raving lunatic.

Palin and McCain were doing the same kind of shit in 2008. Their stooges in their campaign "crowds" yelling Kill Him and the two front running repubs ignored the threats, Palin even egging it on, until 'ignoring' the building insanity in those "crowds" became an issue.

We saw then, that the GOP will do ANYTHING to win, even speak and campaign Hitler style.

[caseymoz]

35. There's hardly any shit they can do.

First, members of Congress can't be impeached. By long-time legal definition going back to British law, that's for civil officials of the government, not a member of the legislative branch, who can, at worst, be expelled. In that case, they still hold their title until their state revokes it, but aren't allowed into the session. The State could then either be represented by somebody who can't do their job, or they have to replace the person.

Also, unfortunately, by Article I, Section 6, she's immune from arrest for what she says in her official Congressional function. Here's the quote:

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

In other words, forget it. She's not going to be impeached, and there's no way she can be arrested for what she says. And you can bet she very well knows this. She can be expelled, but look at what McCarthy was allowed to get away with before they "Censured" him (sent him a nasty letter, not even expelled).

[BeHereNow]

2. Think ABOUT it! A member of our CONGRESS set these events in motion.

http://www.alan.com/2012/07/22/after-being-targeted-by-michele-bachmann-clinton-aide-is-threatened-and-gets-police-protection/

HOW is it possible that she REMAINS a member of Congress?

Please- some on explain how this is possible?
Please? Explain why our tax dollars pay for this nut case to be allowed to have a public voice after this
EPIC debacle?
She is clearly not mentally stable and yet we are forced to pay taxes to enable her
as a dangerous person and a member of CONGRESS?
What fucking planet I am I living on?
BHN

[secondwind]

3. I have no words....... she should be IMPEACHED. K&R

[BeHereNow]

4. YES! YES! Of course that would be one logical course of action- a reasonable one.

But so far, NOTHING has been done even remotely resembling appropriate procedures.
NOW she is attacking yet another Muslim, Keith Ellison- still no congressional action against her.

I repeat- What FUCKING planet are we living on?

One death threat not enough, she is allowed to incite yet another?

I have no words. None at all.

BHN

[Hubert Flottz]

12. Nothing, because the republicans control the House...

[BeHereNow]

23. Then they are accessories to any crimes committed as a result of her allegations.

It is now VERY clear that she is a dangerous person who should NOT
be allowed to address the public at any time.

If nary a one of them will acknowledge the fact that she is directly
responsible for the death threat, than they are responsible for that threat too.

I can NOT believe this has happened.

It's one thing if a random person begins making unfounded allegations in a basement
somewhere, but no, THIS allegation was made by a member of the CONGRESS.

She needs to be impeached- IMMEDIATELY.

She has NO business being in the Congress, if the house will not
resolve this atrocity, who will?

THINK about it long and hard-

A CONGRESS MEMBER's allegations resulted in a death threat.

WHAT country would allow this?

Apparently, this one.

I am so disgusted.

A CONGRESS member's lunatic ramblings resulted in a DEATH threat.

It's so outrageous that I can not wrap my mind around it.

HOW is it possible that no criminal prosecution or action has been taken against her?

BHN

[onenote]

24. "not be allowed to address the public at any time"

Wow. The utter lack of understanding or respect for the First Amendment that you have shown on this thread is mind-boggling.

Once again, Bachmann is pond scum. But the reason that no criminal prosecution or action has been taken against her is that she hasn't done anything criminal. The fact that someone responded to her idiotic demand that various agencies investigate Huma and others doesn't change that one iota under the Constitution.

[BeHereNow]

27. The 1st Amendment does not cover incitement to violence.

Her "speech" resulted in a threat against a fellow American.
The Congress has EVERY reason to expel her at this point, and they can do so
legally.

She has refused to stop, just as McCarthy did, despite warnings from fellow party
members.
They should use their powers to expel her- TODAY.
She is a dangerous person and should NOT be allowed to continue her dangerous allegations
against fellow citizens in PUBLICLY funded venues.

BHN

[onenote]

33. I guess you didn't take my advice to actually read up on incitment and the First Amendment

You are entitled to your opinion. But you can't just make up, or ignore, Constitutional law.

She hasn't engaged in actionable incitement. Period. And because she hasn't committed a criminal act, she isn't going to be expelled because even though Congress can pretty much expel a member for anything (if 2/3 of the members go along), in 200 plus years of history, no one has ever been expelled from Congress for anything short of criminal misconduct. Including Joe McCarthy. By the way, and you may not be aware of this, the Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormick, ruled that the House does not have the power to exclude a member from being sworn in and taking office (which the House had voted to do with respect to Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. by less than a 2/3 vote). All it can do to prevent a duly elected member from serving is vote to expel by a 2/3 vote.

Bachmann has abused her position and should be censured.

[obamanut2012]

9. Good point

Anthony Weiner resigned for much less.

[PADemD]

5. Start a petition on signon.org

I'll sign it.

[rgbecker]

6. Then there is Louie Gohmert, who also signed the letter.

I made the mistake of listening to this guy on C-Span ranting about Muslims etc. the other evening. The country is teeming with racist bigots and talk radio is clearing the way for them to feel free to spit their bile with impunity.




Louie Gohmert: Aurora Shootings Result Of 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs'




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/louie-gohmert-aurora-shootings_n_1689099.html

[proReality]

7. It might help

if we all start writing op eds to our local papers and also try to get op eds into the larger ones.

[obamanut2012]

8. At minimum, Bachmann needs to be censured and lose her Intel seat

[spanone]

10. i think the leadership of the house agrees with these people

silence says it all

[Iggy]

11. "Where the F&8^ Is Congress....?"

Yes, indeed... I've been asking myself the same question the last 12 years.

other than a few actual progressives like Franken, Sanders, and Kuc, I'm not clear just who
gives a crap about us.

[Aerows]

13. She's a Democrat

Nobody gives a damn unless it is a Republican being threatened. They are pretty much ready to kill anyone for suggesting impropriety, but they are free to lob their insinuations at anybody that isn't in lock-step with their Republican beliefs/bullshit.

None of it will change until they do something about it in their own nasty party. They have to change it from within before it is too late.

[KharmaTrain]

14. Censured Yes...

...Prosecuted? Sorry...there's a first ammendment in the way and while I feel Bachmann and her ilk should be banished from the political stage, I would prefer it be from the public and corporate media no longer considering them relevant and electable. Sadly that isn't happening. Boner won't do squat against any teabagger cause he's scared shit of them and his power means more than decency. Faux noise and hate radio thrives on this crap and it draws attention and ratings while putting lots of money in Bachmann and others pockets.

While I'm very tired of it...have been for decades...those who elect her aren't or invite her on their teevee and hate radio shows cause they know she'll draw attention and ratings. The best way to hold her accountable is at the ballot box...help support her opponent in the upcoming election and start to build/rebuild a stronger Democratic party that can better communicate and win election in purple and red states...making being a teabagger a liability.

[Aerows]

16. Impeached

Sorry, but when you make statements that force a person to have 24/7 security because of your loose mouth, it's time for you to quit being in Congress.

It's ridiculous that this woman is even in Congress, and even staunch Republicans that I know are saying it.

She shouldn't have a seat for any reason, when she is launching such attacks on American citizens.

[KharmaTrain]

18. Get The Votes...

If I had a vote in the House, I'd be right there with you, but I don't. I'm also sure that if it were a Democrat who made such acerbic statements and had done so with the frequency of Bachmann, he/she would have not only been censured by driven into the political wilderness from relentless attacks by the corporate media and hate radio. That's not the case with Bachmann and sadly there are a lot of people who agree with her wackiness...enough in the House than any motion to impeach (no matter how justified) will go nowhere.

My schadenfraude is to see her conceding on election night...probably not likely, but there's the best way to censure her in the short-term.

[The Wizard]

17. Joseph McCarthy set the standard

and 60 years later his lunacy still breathes fire. Bachmann, Palin, Gohmert, et al are foils to make the likes of Cantor, McConnell and Boner seem reasonable. The Republican Party as it stands must be purged of its toxins. They've created a dangerous environment for normal Americans. They have become the Dr. Moreau of politics.

[BeHereNow]

25. The Doctor Moreau of politics...well stated.

McCarthy ultimately ended his own political career by refusing to
back down after being called on to stop by his own party members.
He was expelled for it.

Bachmann should be expelled by reason of the McCarthy precedent.

Until they DO expel her, they look like fools.
Let's hope they realize it.

BHN

[onenote]

19. This thread is why we probably need a First Amendment or Constitution forum on DU

First, Michelle Bachmann is a despicable excuse for a human. Period.

Second, what she did was not criminally actionable as a matter of constitutional law. I urge those who toss around the concept of prosecuting her for "incitement" to read some of the leading First Amendment cases on the subject, starting with Brandenburg v. Ohio.

Third, there has only been one attempt to "impeach" a member of the House or Senate and it occurred in 1797 and failed in large part because of doubts that members of Congress can be impeached. They can be expelled by a 2/3 vote of the body in which they sit, which in many ways is less of a hurdle than impeachment. But expulsion is a very rare event. Its only happened 20 times and 17 of those were tied to the Civil War. Of the three other impeachments, all involved actions that were criminal in nature.

This isn't a defense of Bachmann, who I believe should be censured (along with the four co-signers of the letters). Rather, it is a defense of the Constitution which too often people are prepared to ignore when their passions, even understandably, are inflamed.

[BeHereNow]

28. The Constitution: Article 1; Section 5 EXPULSION

It's in the Constitution- look it up.
She has FAR exceeded any reasons for escaping expulsion, as provided by the Constitution.
They need to exercise their right to expel her TODAY.

BHN

[onenote]

30. I specifically discussed expulsion in my post, which you obviously didn't read all the way through.

Yes its an option. As I pointed out, its probably easier to do than impeachment since it only requires one house to act (although it does require a 2/3 vote of that House, while impeachment only requires a majority of the House (with 2/3 Senate vote to convict).

But, as I also pointed out, in 200 plus years of American history, outside of a number of expulsions related to the Civil War, there have been only three expulsions from the House or Senate and all three were based on activity that was criminal in nature (or actual treason in one case).

So yes, the House has the "right" to expel Bachmann and no, its not going to happen because based on the standard historically applied for 200 plus years, she hasn't done enough to warrant expulsion. On the other hand, censure would be appropriate and consistent with historical precedent.

[bonniebgood]

20. You had many top democrats in the house

and senate and on the air waves calling for Anthony Weiner to step down. NOT one of those
same dems have open their mouth about this batshit lunatic putting the Secretary of State Hillary and Huma life in jeopardy. None, not one dem have call for her to step down.
The dems are so f*ing weak they won't even ask her to apologize. No media reporter will ask anybody should batshit resign.
Yes the media is complicit in her diabolical rants.
This is why we are in the trouble we're in this country. If that shooter in Colorado had a stature of limbo and all the rightwing nut books in his apartment, the media would not report it.
Huma and Hillary should be having a fucking press conference telling the death threats and what has happen to them since this aired.
Bachman allegations could have been reported to bush's homeland security. Shame on all media for reporting "allegations" without proof when a person life is at stake.

I believe every white person in this country have a family member somewhere in history that is tied
to a so-called hate group. Someone with the know-how need to connect michele to those groups in return.

[riverwalker]

21. sign and pass on

https://www.change.org/petitions/us-house-of-representatives-remove-michele-bachmann-from-the-intelligence-committee

[Callmecrazy]

32. Just signed it.

Thanks for the link.

[onenote]

22. WTF?

"I believe every white person in this country have a family member somewhere in history that is tied
to a so-called hate group."

As a "white person" whose family has been on the receiving end of threats and harassment (and worse) by hate groups such as the American Nazi Party, KKK, and John Birch Society (to name just a few domestic organization), my response to you (and I don't care if I get alerted on this) is "go fuck yourself".

Michelle Bachmann is a despicable, ignorant slimebucket. But your statement is grotesque and, intentionally or not, is a step towards her way of thinking.

[Scurrilous]

26. K & R

[tularetom]

29. According to david gregory both sides are equally culpable

So all those Democrats who have made knowingly false allegations about republicans should be censured too.

As soon as david tells us who the fuck they are.

[truebrit71]

31. Yeah, and Karl Rove's dance partner can go take a flying fuck at the moon as far as I am concerned..

...

[AnnieBW]

34. Can Ms. Abedin Sue Bachmann for Slander?

Can Ms. Abedin sue a member of Congress for slander and/or libel? Not to mention endangering her life!

[BeHereNow]

38. I wish she would...

Doesn't look like anyone else is going to do anything about it.
The memo has gone out to the Republicans:
"Do not comment."

Other than a select few, who politely condemned her on the floor- caught by C-span,
which the average American does not watch, not one member from the party has commented
on her allegations and the ramifications of them; resulting in a threat and 24 hour security for Ms. Abedin.

Despite the requests from leading Republicans to shut her pie hole, she went on to make
allegations against Keith Ellison too.

Republican reactions?
ZIPPO- Nada...

She is our present day McCarthy- perhaps they figure if they give her enough rope
she will hang her self and they wont be forced to do anything- I don't know.

I do know she, and her media counterparts are a threat to any and everyone unfortunate to
come in contact with, and fall under suspicion, of their deranged agenda.

BHN

[nikto]

36. Ms. Bachmann is simply trying to protect...

...our precious bodily fluids.

[drm604]

37. Michelle Bachmann is mentally ill, in my admittedly non-medical opinion.

This is what our country has come to. We're electing lunatics. This is the result of decades of Republicans deliberately stirring up fear and hate in order to get elected. They've created a Frankenstein monster. Rather than electing those who stirred them up, they are now electing their own and are taking over the party.

When a party feigns extremism in order to get elected, that party eventually is replaced by true extremists.